Winny, Tren, Test and Adex... AND MY FRIGGIN JOINTS

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

So I'm on the above and my god my joints are achy. I've lowered the adex to .5mg a day, haven't noticed any improvement yet but I hope to soon.

I'm on 50mg of Winny caps 2x a day, one in the AM one around 5PM.

I'm also supplementing with EFA's at night and mid day.. Is there anything else that helps combat this? I definetely will not consider deca while running Tren.

I take MSM but not glucosamine or anything else like it..

 

[OMEGA]

bro you got allot working against your joints.

Winnie, Tren and too much AI suppression are the culprits.

only think can think of is TWo things:

1) cut back to high rep lower weight training
2) Cut back on dosages of Tren and Winnie OR dont run them together

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

I've considered lowering the doses of one or the other but I'll be completely honest.. I'm loving the results I'm getting right now. I was hoping to find an alternate solution. I'm running Tren E at 500mg a week.

I've actually already lowered my weights and upped my reps, although the joint pain isnt usually while I'm working out. I notice it but while I'm at the gym my adrenaline gets pumping and it doesnt bother me as much. It's usually while I'm working or at home, typing, moving papers around, etc.. I definetely don't want to take any kind of pain killer for it.

No other supps out there for joint lubrication that would ease things up? I've considered switching from Winny to Var but dont have the var on hand.

 

[OMEGA]

MSM and Chondroiton, and Fish oils can work but they take a long while to take effect.

Drop the winnie and cut back to Dex at .5 bro

use the Winnie When the Tren E runs out.

 

[str8cubano]

yea bro, in the end, your joints hurt because you are lifting heavy and hard trying to take advantage of your cycle. IT happened to me at 80mgs on var. I simply stopped going to the gym for 2 weeks, and the pain went away. I bet you get forarm pain along with pain in your elbows? Unfortunately, your body was never meant to lift so heavy, so the steroids are putting extra stress on your joints. Take stuff for your joints, and take a week or two off of heavy lifting. Let go of the str8 bar too...

 

[Mac173]

Gluc chon MSM will help, but not right away. Maybe lower the winny dose and/or AI.

 

[redsamurai]

because of this......I am going to run HGH with my cycles from now on.

 

[CBAR]

I am taking a similar stack


I am getting by with .25 adex (injectable) eod and a couple of pumps of aifm. I'm also taking masteron instead of winny.

Emergen C 1gm vit c packs now have a joint support formula, same amount of C plus glucosamine and chondroitin that I have been using for a month and has helped big time.

 

[NaturalOnlyAtBirth]

I am taking a similar stack


I am getting by with .25 adex (injectable) eod and a couple of pumps of aifm. I'm also taking masteron instead of winny.

Emergen C 1gm vit c packs now have a joint support formula, same amount of C plus glucosamine and chondroitin that I have been using for a month and has helped big time.

Thanks all for the advice, I think I will buy some Glucosamine and Chondro tomorrow and drop the adex back to .5 EOD and see how it goes. I'm pretty prone to gyno with Test so I like to keep it safe.

 

[medrep]

what a coincidence
I was in a smoothie king that just opened today for my PWM and they owner comes walking up to me and says "hey you look like you work out" and gives me 2 test tubes of "liquid vitamins". One was glucosamine and chondroitin, i found info on it here http://www.highperformancefitness.com/poverviewG.htm