Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Lower you test levels on a blood test, diagnosed with hyperthyroidism 2 weeks ago and will be seeing a Endocrinologist in 7 weeks, have been off for 4 weeks last cycle was tren at 400 mgs a week. I'm thinking that may have contributed to my diagnosis, On hcg now at 1500 mgs once every 4 days , will do this for 1 month. anyone with info on this would be much appreciated. Later
Will a deca alone cycle.....
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yes. and a deca alone cycle is a bad idea because of the suppression.
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actually both the posters above are wrong. if you run deca alone your T levels would go up, not down. your LH and FSH levels would go down though.
your blood test would pick up on the extra hormones obviously.
i am currently running EQ and tren and my T levels jumped 800 points up .. one of the biggest myths we see out there is that somehow if you don't run 'test' your test levels would go down. makes no sense at all since all AAS is derived from test. that would be like saying if you drink lemonade you aren't drinking water.. if you don't believe me then you are welcome to run something by itself without test and run bloods after about 4 weeks and see for yourself. bloods don't lie, but bro science does
as far as the overactive thyroid your post is way too confusing.. if you were off 4 weeks not sure why the AAS would have manipulated your results. way too small of an amount would of been left to make that assumption. what were your results before you ever touched steroids? what are your stats ? I do not believe it has anything to do with your AAS use but if you confirm you have this then you definately need to get it addressed
your blood test would pick up on the extra hormones obviously.
i am currently running EQ and tren and my T levels jumped 800 points up .. one of the biggest myths we see out there is that somehow if you don't run 'test' your test levels would go down. makes no sense at all since all AAS is derived from test. that would be like saying if you drink lemonade you aren't drinking water.. if you don't believe me then you are welcome to run something by itself without test and run bloods after about 4 weeks and see for yourself. bloods don't lie, but bro science does
as far as the overactive thyroid your post is way too confusing.. if you were off 4 weeks not sure why the AAS would have manipulated your results. way too small of an amount would of been left to make that assumption. what were your results before you ever touched steroids? what are your stats ? I do not believe it has anything to do with your AAS use but if you confirm you have this then you definately need to get it addressed
why is it bad im first time user using 400mgs week deca alone am i doing it wrong
deca isn't a smart choice for a first cycle. doesn't matter if you run deca alone or deca with test.
because of the progesterone concerns associated with it and also the long and stubborn ester attached. although nandrolone has low side effects it should be run properly to avoid risk to gyno and recovery problems.
as a newb you are incapable of knowing how to run it properly so my short answer is yes you are doing it wrong
Why is it when some people get an answer, they just ask the question again?
cuz their 'friend' at the gym said so
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i am currently running EQ and tren and my T levels jumped 800 points up .. one of the biggest myths we see out there is that somehow if you don't run 'test' your test levels would go down. makes no sense at all since all AAS is derived from test. that would be like saying if you drink lemonade you aren't drinking water.. if you don't believe me then you are welcome to run something by itself without test and run bloods after about 4 weeks and see for yourself. bloods don't lie, but bro science does
EQ can affect test levels because its metabolites will cross-react with testosterone. Hence your test levels being higher on those drugs. Tren might do this to some degree.
Nandrolone metabolites do not cross react with testosterone according to my research - and if they do it is very little and might not affect a blood test.
If it were as trivialized as you made it out to be - all AAS affect test levels [thats how they work] then why would anyone run anything besides test?
Deca is extremely suppressive. It takes a month to recover your natural test from a single 100mg shot of the stuff.
^^This is an understatement. As little as 125mg will kill my libido and put sexual sensitivity in the fucking dirt for a good 6 weeks. Even with a small amount of test.
Other than the very scant few who respond amazingly well to it and are seemingly almost immune to its side effects it is an awful AAS to use for any reason.
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Stats are. 45 years old, 5' 8", 200 lbs at about 10-12 percent BF, been in the game for sometime and have done a few shows, I guess my question is, should I go in the endrocrinoligist office with lowest test levels possible my Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH} was 0.4 average levels are 0.5 to 4.68, My T4 (Thyroxine), Free was .59 compared to normal levels of 0,78-2.19. No testosterone level were tested. I just don't want to start cycling and have he do a testosterone blood test, and get the questions like wow you have really high test levels. Or go in there will low levels and maybe be prescribed some andro gel or something. It's weird I have not lost a pound since being diagnosed, just maybe a little dehydrated. That for any info.
why not run your own bloods and see for yourself?
i haven't injected a single drop of testosterone in over 2 years and whenever I am on cycle and run bloods I am elevated. crazy how hormones cause hormones to show up in bloods? i know its complicated to many
Agreed. Much better options out there than Deca. 90% of the gains seem to be water anyways. The negatives drastically outweigh the positives with that AAS
I think guys are also doing some pretty high doses too. The new trend seems to be much higher dosage from not too many years ago.
I remember guys on here telling me I needed to take a minimum of 800mg of primo per week to "see" any sort of results. Then I read through my Lewellyn material from 2009 and he's got Primo/Mast running for 8 weeks with a max dose of primo at 300mg/week. Not only is that a drastically more affordable recommendation but a much more sane cycle to run dosage wise.
Obviously the higher the dose the higher the sides.
I remember guys on here telling me I needed to take a minimum of 800mg of primo per week to "see" any sort of results. Then I read through my Lewellyn material from 2009 and he's got Primo/Mast running for 8 weeks with a max dose of primo at 300mg/week. Not only is that a drastically more affordable recommendation but a much more sane cycle to run dosage wise.
Obviously the higher the dose the higher the sides.
well some guys run dbol and test.. bloat up like pigs and watch the scale go up and think they are gaining muscle.
primo doesn't do that so to them those aren't good enough gains, so they up the dose and up it more.
those that already have a strong base will appreciate what primo does for them vs. some skinny newb who weighs 150 pounds and wants to just gain 30 pounds of water to show off to their friends
Primo and mast was one of the best cycles I've ever done to lean out along with 4iu's HGH. I can't wait to run it again.
so you want to fool your doctor right? then stop the deca and wait about 5 weeks to get your bloods done. don't run any SERM's either.
your problem though is your LH and FSH will be in the shitters. if your doctor had half a brain (which most don't) he would pick up on that ..
Ipamorelin bro if you're going peptides. 200mcg 2xed. Its great.
Is the amount I have taken enough to lower my test levels?
