widen my lats!!

[lilguy7000]

I question the actual effectiveness of pullups on width. When I was in high school I did about 100 or so chins a day and had no width at all. Now after concentrating on them narrow v-grip pulls I have a good deal of width. Why's that?

lilguy

 

[genarr3]

I question the actual effectiveness of pullups on width. When I was in high school I did about 100 or so chins a day and had no width at all. Now after concentrating on them narrow v-grip pulls I have a good deal of width. Why's that?

lilguy

Because as Charlie B has said, and I agree, wide grip does not equal wide lats. The wider you make the grip the less range of motion you get.

 

[Phenotype X]

A narrow grip, I believe works more on gaining thickness because
this movement is very similar to the motion of the seated row, while wide grip( or just a wider grip) helps with the V shape since it works really high up on the lats.

 

[Texas Ranger]

Try Chins(Narrow and Medium), One Arm Rows, and Machine Pullovers. You back will GROW like nothing else!!!!!!!!!

 

[NFG123]

Yep

<<Wide grip does not equal wide lats. The lats insert into the upper arm, therefore if you widen your grip you will not work the muscle through its full range of motion>>

This is complete true.

Close grip movements are good for thickening your back, however. I've had good luck with closegrip pulldowns and barbell rows for this, on a different note.

 

[bigal]

I agree with moms knees The partial pulls really gets your tenderloin and supersetting pullovers and pull-ups will make you wider, just remember you don't need to superset every workout.
Pulldowns or pullups wide,medium, or narrow all help width. Rowing motions help your thickness. Remeber when you do them, feel your muscle and pull with your elbows not your arms. Do all of them and then make up your own mind by whichever you feel the most.

 

[Thaibox]

I've gotten the best results for my whole back including width, from doing heavy deads.

 

[Hugh Gellatts]

at least for me all the wide grip does is shorten the range of motion, flare my shoulder out funny and shift emphasis from the lats to the serratus and rear delts. I do them for variety, but if I want to really overload the muscle I go with a shoulder width supinated grip or neutral grip weighted chins.

middle/upper back thickness, including rhomboids and lower traps are what rows are for.