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Why TREN may not be the best choice for comping part II

Nice thread and very informative. Thanks for this post Steve. I'm running tren e @ 600mg ew, this thread helped me realize a couple things that I always feel while on tren. I'm going to use some of the points in this thread to see if it works for me.


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burnthiscorpse; I accepted that to get ripped I was gonna have to put up with feeling pretty crap from time to time, what would the glucose tabs have done? I'll bear this info in mind for next time...

here is the thing.. anyone who has run long distances has i'm sure felt dizzy and like they were gonna throw up from the low blood sugar.. BUT the thing is the body will naturally recover from that and you will end up being fine even without sugar consumption. now if you were on tren then its manipulating your blood sugar and pushing it down, so your body won't recover on its own possibly. that could create major problems and could have you headed to the ER. or a day you fail to eat a lot, maybe you were on the road all day. i would definately keep them in your car and near you at all times

so its a good idea to have the tabs on hand just in case in those situations. it really helps
 
I posted a thread like this a year ago and had a lot of dissention from guys who disagreed with this. here is why i say this and after talking to led (who has run more tren than most anyone on here) I will post up our convo.

I notice on tren when i wake up, after a workout or generally if i don't consume enough carbs during the day and go to lay down my blood sugar is really low. everyone on here who works out intensely or runs etc knows what low blood sugar feels like I would hope. and its not a pleasant thing. if it gets too bad you can end up in the hospital but it can be solved with consuming some sugars/carbs easily.

here is my convo below which explains more:

Definitely, especially at night a few hours after I eat my last meal with complex carbs. Remember, after insulin, Tren is the most anabolic compound out there.

What I'm tryin tell you is that tren utilizes almost all the nutrients you put in your body (almost total absorption), including "carbs." That is why I stress anyone who trains to be a bodybuilder should eat complex carbs every 2-3 hours especially when on Tren, which acts on the liver to stimulate the formation of glycogen from glucose and to inhibit the conversion of non-carbohydrates into glucose.

In other words, Tren is going to use up the carbs you eat fast, which will "lower" glycogen levels; that is why you are getting "low blood sugar levels." I suggest, if you take tren to eat complex carbs throughout the day to be proactive as much as possible.

Sometimes I do "two" cardio sessions; one in the morning and one at night 1hr 1/2 before bed. The session at night almost knocks me the fuck out. I get off the treadmill feeling dizzy and faint, but as soon as I eat a Protein Bar I'm fine. This happens because of low glycogen levels.

People don't realize how powerful tren really is. If you noticed in my thread (the last post i made) I said I'm reluctant to post my cycle because i don't want to give people any ideas, and all it takes is some newb or careless person to read that stuff and emulate my cycle and bam! that asshole is taking a trip to the hospital or morgue.. Not that i'm an expert but i have a little experience with it. Ultimately, anyone can become a victim, but Im not feeling responsible for anyone's stupidity..

But YES, TREN will definitely lower your glycogen levels, so eat your complex carbs throughout the day to be proactive as much as possible, that's all we can do.. Again, tren is nothing to fuck with it..

Also, keep hydrated when taking tren, even more than you would using other 'aas' because it has some thermogenic property that dehydrates the body. Being dehydrated does the opposite it; When you become dehydrated, the amount of liquid in your blood is low in relation to the nutrients and waste products in the blood. Therefore, concentrations of glucose increase. As glucose levels increase, blood circulation through the capillaries, the smallest blood vessels, diminishes.

Increased blood glucose levels can cause fatigue, blurred vision, increased thirst and an increased need to urinate, and send us to the hospital, so keep hydrated.

Conclusion: my advice when taking tren; eat complex carbs every 2-3 hours throughout the day and almost double your normal water intake..

Need2slin can help with this big time...
 
I run my tren e at 800mg ew. I get almost zero sides at that dose. Anything less and I can't sleep and sweat like a whore in church. I want to add a child's dose of deca to help lubricate my joints next time around. What's your thoughts on this and dosage for both tren e and deca?


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^^^ my opinion would be to up your omega oils instead for your joints rather than throw in deca. deca makes things more complicated because now you are gonna have to worry about progesterone on top of prolactin. with tren you only have to worry about prolactin which is easy to to control. progesterone isn't so easy

so in summary I'm not a proponent of using deca for joints, not worth the risk vs. reward. especially when there are things like krill oil, cage free eggs, olive oil, flax, avocado, etc that provide the same benefits without the negatives

also since you aren't getting sides from tren that tells me you are doing a good job taking in enough food during the day OR you are one of those people who aren't blood sugar sensitive. i have used certain brands of tren btw and noticed less of a blood sugar impact, but the top quality tren i have used (specifically parabolan ampules) the blood sugar impact is more pronounced. which tells me they tren you are using is poor quality if you are running 800mg .. i could never run that much of this parabolan i can tell you that.. 400mg is more than ample

remember what tren does.. it nutrition partitions as i illustrated in the first post.. if you aren't getting that impact from it that would be a red flag to me
 
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