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I wish they'd make a non 17AA D-bol. I'd have no problem taking that all day long.
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Why Not?
- Thread starter Nelson Montana
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I know the structure is similar but I don't feel the same on EQ. Never had the ace though.
Most fast acting pins hurt. I just thought, since d-bol is so awesome it'd be great not to worry about the liver strain.
Primo oral isn't 17 AA, but you need abotu 10 tabs spread out thoughout the day. But Primo isn;t a drug for when you want a quick, hard hit. D-bol would be great for that -- even if you needed to take it often.
buttbeater
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Just use a transdermal.
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lol. It's still 17AA bro.
northernknight
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True, there's a huge difference between how you feel on the them, and not even going to mention other differences between them. No other AAS/PED gives same great feeling like Dbol (SARMS, especially LGD is a bit similar, but still doesn't come even close to Dbol), and I feel like absolute crap on EQ.
I also get so bad anxiety from EQ. (Which hasn't happened with any other AAS/PED that I've tried), so it's probably obvious that it's not one of my favourites...
Then again, Dbol definitely is, lol!
It's interesting how much differences there's between them, even with so similar chemical structure.
This is a great idea IMO. If someone would seriously want to do this, it shouldn't be too hard to come up with non-methylated version of Dbol. Maybe attach a THP-ester to the molecule to make it more bio available, and extending the half life.
There's a non-methylated versions of Winny available, and discussed in Julius Vidas text. Though, Stanzolol has some weak points, like ie. weak binding affinity to AR, so to get any benefit from it doses have to be multiple times larger compared to 17-AA version. This will of course add more stress to organs, and brings liver stress back to equation. I don't see any other use to the non-methylated version of Winny ran on it's own, but when stacking multiple orals and other compounds it should provide pretty good results.
Though I haven't tried any non-17-AA version of Stanazolol myself, but I have tried stacking Furazan, which is pretty similar to Winny in many ways, and it works fine (I think Katadrol V.2 had Furazan in it) . Nothing spectacular, but neither did I expect that.
Like Nelson said, it would still be liver toxic. Injectable or transdermal Dbol version will just skip the first pass, that does reduce liver stress a bit, but not enough to really make much difference IMO.
Besides, I'm personally completely fed up with transdermals after using years Testogel for my TRT.
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Methylation of oral steroids is ironically also what makes them so effective. A non-methylated version of Dbol would be pretty mild in terms of gains. All non-methyls out there generally need dosed very high to see much at all from them
Proviron in non methylated. Is it not effective? it just takes more mgs and more frequent dosing. I still that would be a better choice.
