Why is it..

[AAP]

that nowdays you have to run EQ at 600-800mg weekly to see minimal gains but back in the early 90's the 50mg per ml Squibb brand you only needed 300mg weekly to see a world of difference.

 

[advanced-stealth]

Very good point.

 

[Svengali]

Bro, I have the same damn question. When I was doing 50 mg/ml brovel eq I would see great gains with 300 mg/wk (6 cc's).. I am about to swear off eq forever.

 

[AAP]

New EQ is 6x the strength... so why don't we at least see 1/2 the gains that came from the 50mg version?

 

[lartinos]

Too young to answer that question

 

[Nelson Montana]

One reason may be that gains simply come slower the more advanced you are. It's easier to put on 10 solid pounds at 160 than it is at 220.

I do believe certain gear is underdosed though. I'd swear the pink pentagon thai d-bol in the 90's was double dosed. In the case of EQ, I wouldn't know. I never used vet gear. Then again, if it's underdose, how is anyone supposed to know? Is a horse gonna say; "Ya know, I don't feel quite the same kick as I used to."

Test on the other hand, legit pharm grade, is exactly the same.

 

[Triple J]

that is the way everything UG or china powders

 

[c3bodybuilding]

I'm on 200mgs right now and I'm loving it. I never liked it at high doses, it would always cause me massive panic attacks. 200-400mgs (slowly tapering up. ie: 200mgs for 5-6 weeks, then 300 for another 5, then 400 for the final 5) works best for me. Anything higher and I am a panic driven mess. For some reason tren doesn't do this to me, although from what I read and heard it should make my anxiety much worse than eq. Then again I know some people that can pass out from 2mgs of valium and others who need about 15mgs just to stop a panic attack. We are all different.

But I do remember those 50mg per cc vials. I actually did my first cycle with those. I still don't know if it was real or not but I go from 191lbs to 217 while taking it. I was taking 150mgs per week btw. I just doubt if it was real or not because the box looked different than the ones I saw on the websites. But it's been so long I can barely rememeber.

 

[todoveritas]

One thing guys are forgetting is physiological tolerance-tachyphylaxis. Very few AAS are going to have the same intensity on your 10th cycle as they did on your 1st. This led to those old "clogged receptor" arguments we used to have in the 80's. Today we know receptors don't clog. However, they DO down-regulate and desensitize...same effect of less result.

 

[Triple J]

I'm on 200mgs right now and I'm loving it. I never liked it at high doses, it would always cause me massive panic attacks. 200-400mgs (slowly tapering up. ie: 200mgs for 5-6 weeks, then 300 for another 5, then 400 for the final 5) works best for me. Anything higher and I am a panic driven mess. For some reason tren doesn't do this to me, although from what I read and heard it should make my anxiety much worse than eq. Then again I know some people that can pass out from 2mgs of valium and others who need about 15mgs just to stop a panic attack. We are all different.

I agree and that is what I keep telling people, higher dosages not worthwhile. EQ is mild under any circumstances but will enhance a cycle nicely at low dosages.

I am talking about the UG variety we usually encounter. I am not familiar with the original versions at 50mg/ml I was doing strictly human grade in those days.

 

[jmead]

this can pretty much apply to ALL gear, not just eq.. what once was acheived back in the day, now takes it seems 3x the dose? maybe we have shitty genetics? haha

 

[instant.muscle]

that nowdays you have to run EQ at 600-800mg weekly to see minimal gains but back in the early 90's the 50mg per ml Squibb brand you only needed 300mg weekly to see a world of difference.

same reason if u take 1 oxycotton u get high but if u take 2 u get even more high

 

[used2juice]

I LOVE my eq. I take 600mg weekly and the stuff is incredible. I couldn't believe when people labelled it the most overrated roid.

I get the feeling a lot of labs underdose on that simply because they don't have a comfortable means of measuring it correctly and it can be a bit messy to make. Not to mention the raw material is usually only about 90% at best. You have to make sure you find someone who either gets every kg of raw material tested first, or is sure to overdose by at least 10% on the stuff.

 

[Acela]

I LOVE my eq. I take 600mg weekly and the stuff is incredible. I couldn't believe when people labelled it the most overrated roid.

I get the feeling a lot of labs underdose on that simply because they don't have a comfortable means of measuring it correctly and it can be a bit messy to make. Not to mention the raw material is usually only about 90% at best. You have to make sure you find someone who either gets every kg of raw material tested first, or is sure to overdose by at least 10% on the stuff.

Who manufactures your EQ (GA Labs, ProForm etc)? just curious what is top of the line strength wise.

 

[SLAYER69!]

Ahh, the old 50ml jug of Squibb eq. Those were good times. Some Upjohn cyp and a bottle of Syntex 2902 drol and I was set.

 

[INNOCENT]

i like my dosages at 400mg wk. i have ran high as 800wk. but i like the 400mg just as good.