Why is Isreal attacking...airports???

[gjohnson5]

It's amazing how many people don't or aren't even willing to acknowledge this possibility, or further more realize how much sense it makes. I think the residual guilt throughout the decades over the Holocaust might have something to do with it. Really, out of all the other genocides and mass killings in history, which one do you constantly hear the most of, and often described as being the worst? Have you ever seen a Jew being negatively portrayed in any tv show/cartoon/movie like most other groups have been?

I.m.o., Jews bring anti-Semitism on themselves more than anything.
I wondered myself when I was more naive why anyone would be hostile towards Jews, until I thought outside the box for a change. All it takes is to ask oneself some questions and be willing to look at it from an underdog's point of view.

And Boss, the last couple of succeeding points you brought up could very possibly take care of themselves, one after another.

Where's our slave reparations??
Where's my tribal nation genocide reparations??

Ooh , there were going to give me a few dollars in college for being Cherokee weren't they...

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

Where's our slave reparations??
Where's my tribal nation genocide reparations??

Ooh , there were going to give me a few dollars in college for being Cherokee weren't they...

I wouldn't know, I'm not Indian or African American. Although the government says they're making strides to compensate past ill treatments of minorities. What, you didn't get any money yet?

 

[gjohnson5]

I wouldn't know, I'm not Indian or African American. Although the government says they're making strides to compensate past ill treatments of minorities. What, you didn't get any money yet?

I just wanted you to think how stupid your statements were. No ,they were moronic and preschoolish.

And no I don't take money for reasons such as that

 

[needtogetaas]

Stop throwing stones at people with tanks.

lol

 

[Spartacus]

The Zionist Jews definitely need their homeland so they can (hopefully speaking) stop using America as their puppet for their own gains. Think about it: how much hatred did Arabs have for America before we, the most powerful nation on earth, endorsed Israel/Jews and funded them with practically whatever they needed for their righteous cause? I'm guessing quite a bit less.
Although in the Jews' defense, why Arabs, given all the other land they occupy already, can't let the Jews have what according to religious history is theirs (as small a piece of land as it is), is beyond me. Although I doubt that would satisfy them entirely, it would certainly be a good start.

my grandfather did a lot of business with aramco in the 50s and 60s
I got some cool souveniers
aramco is the saudi national oil company
I have pictures of him with arabs and around the pyramids and shit

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

I just wanted you to think how stupid your statements were. No ,they were moronic and preschoolish.

And no I don't take money for reasons such as that

Your statements were off the mark to begin with; either that or we're not on the same page.


4ever, yep it was a different world back then.

 

[gjohnson5]

Your statements were off the mark to begin with; either that or we're not on the same page.


4ever, yep it was a different world back then.

It could be that we are off the mark, but I don't think so

I would like you to go read around the internet and find just one 1/2 way credible source who thinks that America will enter a war over guilt for the holocaust and I will take back everything I said.

If this is not the point of these comments
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6436883&postcount=113
Then please explain further...

I've read how neoconservative lobbyist may have influenced Bush to attack Iraq and may do it again here. I simply don't believe a religious group has that much influence much less a minority one.

 

[Spartacus]

neither "side" has the moral high ground
the US should walk away from this shit
Iran is winning this so far

 

[bignate73]

I've read how neoconservative lobbyist may have influenced Bush to attack Iraq and may do it again here. I simply don't believe a religious group has that much influence much less a minority one.

AIPAC one of the biggest lobbies in DC

not a religious group, per se.

 

[gjohnson5]

It could be that we are off the mark, but I don't think so

I would like you to go read around the internet and find just one 1/2 way credible source who thinks that America will enter a war over guilt for the holocaust and I will take back everything I said.

If this is not the point of these comments
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6436883&postcount=113
Then please explain further...

I've read how neoconservative lobbyist may have influenced Bush to attack Iraq and may do it again here. I simply don't believe a religious group has that much influence much less a minority one.

SOme people think Bush attack Iraq so Saddam wouldn't be a threat to Israel. So now that the US is occupying Iraq , Iran will have to go through Iraq to attack Israel.

Here's this is pretty interesting

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/pathtowar.html

William Hamilton "Bush Began to Plan War Three Months After 9/11"
The Washington Post (USA)
April 17, 2004

Now, a new firsthand account of life in the US Defense Department shows just how pro-Israeli groups exerted their influence from within the government. Karen Kwiatkowski retired as a lieutenant colonel in the US Air Force after two decades of distinguished service. Her last posting was at the Near East South Asia (NESA) directorate at the Pentagon. In a lengthy article in the online journal Salon.com, Kwiatkowski writes, "From May 2002 until February 2003, I observed firsthand the formation of the Pentagon's Office of Special Plans and watched the latter stages of the neoconservative capture of the policy-intelligence nexus in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq." The "seizure of the reins of US Middle East policy," Kwiatkowski recounts, "was directly visible to many of us working in the Near East South Asia Policy office, and yet there seemed to be little any of us could do about it." All this happened under the watch of Bill Luti, the deputy secretary of defense for NESA, and went up and down the chain of command. Some of the specific incidents Kwiatkowski recalls are illustrative: "Longtime office director Joe McMillan was reassigned to the National Defense University. The director's job in the time of transition was to help bring the newly appointed deputy assistant secretary up to speed, ensure office continuity, act as a resource relating to regional histories and policies ... Removing such a critical continuity factor was not only unusual but also seemed like willful handicapping." Kwiatkowski said "the expertise on Mideast policy was not only being removed, but was also being exchanged for that from various agenda-bearing think tanks, including the Middle East Media Research Institute, the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, and the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs." The main agenda of all these organizations is advocating closer US-Israel ties. She saw the "replacement of the civilian head of the Israel, Lebanon and Syria desk office with a young political appointee from the Washington Institute, David Schenker. Word was that the former experienced civilian desk officer tended to be evenhanded toward the policies of Israeli Premier Ariel Sharon of Israel, but there were complaints and he was gone." As the personnel changed, so did the atmosphere; Kwiatkowski recalls that a "career civil servant rather unhappily advised me that if I wanted to be successful here, I'd better remember not to say anything positive about the Palestinians." In an official meeting at which Kwiatkowski was present, Luti openly called Marine General, former Chief of Central Command, and Middle East envoy Anthony Zinni, a "traitor" for having reservations about the march to war, and open contempt and calls for Secretary of State Colin Powell to resign were common. What she observed until her voluntary early retirement was nothing less than a full- scale assault on the intelligence and policymaking apparatus of the United States. She witnessed intelligence and careful analysis being replaced with propaganda, falsehoods and manipulation and fed to the Congress and the Executive Office of the President. This "fear peddling" was, Kwiatkowski writes, "designed to take Congress and the country into a war of executive choice, a war based on false pretenses." Ali Abunimah "It's worse than you thought: pro-Israel influence on US policy" The Electronic Intifada (USA)
March 15, 2004 http://electronicintifada.net/
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