Why is clen so dangerous

[Nelson Montana]

Why is drinking and smoking considered dangerous? I have a buddy who does it all the time and swears by it.

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

Why is drinking and smoking considered dangerous? I have a buddy who does it all the time and swears by it.

He swears by their positive effect on his body? Your metaphor doesn't make sense although I get your point.

Fact is, nearly everything folks on this board are putting into their bodies are bad for us in some way. I highly doubt Clen is more dangerous than taking tren or staying on AAS year round, yet many do it. I don't understand why things like Clen, t3, novla, etc, are such black sheep amongst hundreds of chemicals we out into our bodies all the time living this 'lifestyle'

I'm sure everyone not on the EF site, including pro bb's) are all wrong and stupid because they still use these particular chems for their goals.

 

[Nelson Montana]

He swears by their positive effect on his body? Your metaphor doesn't make sense

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Yes it does...just because someone does something and likes it has no bearing on its safety.

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although I get your point.

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Okay then.


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Fact is, nearly everything folks on this board are putting into their bodies are bad for us in some way.

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Not at all. Supplements are healthy and I believe moderate amount of steroids in occasional cycles can be benefical to health as well.


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I highly doubt Clen is more dangerous than taking tren or staying on AAS year round, yet many do it.


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One thing has nothing to do with the other. Hitch hiking is probably no more dangerous than skydiving every day.


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I don't understand why things like Clen, t3, novla, etc, are such black sheep amongst hundreds of chemicals we out into our bodies all the time living this 'lifestyle'

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Those drugs all have different side effects. You need to do some studying.


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I'm sure everyone not on the EF site, including pro bb's) are all wrong and stupid because they still use these particular chems for their goals.

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You're right. They're all geniuses. You've convinced me. Do all the clen you want. I'm sure it's fine.

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[ALIN]

My buddy swears by it, says take it for 3 weeks and it just melts body fat off of you, why does it have such a stigma on this forum?

I love CLEN too. Ive seen it strip fat off numerous clients and myself. Most of the bad press comes from too large of amounts.
Some of the studies used MG amounts and we (people) only need MCG amounts.

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

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Snarky answers, short on proof of any kind.

I've done plenty of studying, thnkfully from multiple sources and boards and not just here. There's good info on the EF for the most part, but certain things are so biased and full of agenda that they lose credibility.

People are injecting and swallowing all kinds of drugs, and many from ugl sources. Clen should be the least of the worries.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Snarky answers, short on proof of any kind.

I've done plenty of studying, thnkfully from multiple sources and boards and not just here. There's good info on the EF for the most part, but certain things are so biased and full of agenda that they lose credibility.

People are injecting and swallowing all kinds of drugs, and many from ugl sources. Clen should be the least of the worries.

How is this based on any bias? You're being ridiculous. You want proof? What? Would names on tombstones make you happy ? You're trying to convince yourself to do something that people are telling you is dangerous and you think that being a smartass and saying people do worse things is some sort of justifcation. Fine. But don't expect me or anyone else to buy your bullshit.

Clen is extremely unhealthy. But even if it doesn't hurt you, the results are only temporary. If it's worth your health to look lean for a week, go for it. Me? I'm a bodybuilder. I know how to train and diet. You should try it sometime.

 

[stevesmi]

i would encourage anyone who wants to try clen to TRY IT themselves and make your own decisions.

there isn't any bias i assure you.. hell ag guys is a sponsor and sells it so knock yourselves out. however keep in mind if you start getting the sides that i mentioned earlier and you decide to stop this stuff the half life is so long (48 hours) that expect 3 more days of problems until its cleared down to lower levels .. the stuff almost put me in the hospital so i cannot recommend it but if you must have it give ag guys a shot, its as potent as the stuff unique sells

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

How is this based on any bias? You're being ridiculous. You want proof? What? Would names on tombstones make you happy ? You're trying to convince yourself to do something that people are telling you is dangerous and you think that being a smartass and saying people do worse things is some sort of justifcation. Fine. But don't expect me or anyone else to buy your bullshit.

Clen is extremely unhealthy. But even if it doesn't hurt you, the results are only temporary. If it's worth your health to look lean for a week, go for it. Me? I'm a bodybuilder. I know how to train and diet. You should try it sometime.

Ok fine, ill play.

How are the results temporary? It can break a plateau. Of course if your diet goes back to shit you will gain weight. But this is the same concept as any of the drugs we take. You have to stay disciplined when coming 'off' or the results will go away. In which case, all the steroids and drugs have temporary results.

You show me one tombstone where someone died specifically from Clen use and ill show you 100 that died from a variety of other drugs that you apparently consider to not be dangerous.

Of course if you are stupid and take too much Clen you will be in trouble. Just like any other anabolic, ancillary, and OTC drug

We all take risks by taking steroids and other cocktails to reach our goals. Clen has no more risk than any of them while abused

I am not sure why I am arguing with someone who is known for being argumentative and needing the last word. But I don't care. We all know you are better than the rest of is.
Lots of people on EF feel the same way as you do. Just not anywhere else. And thats fine. I'm happy to consider all opinions but the glaring majority feels the opposite on this argument.

PS I don't even take Clen

 

[tha_Waco_kid]

i would encourage anyone who wants to try clen to TRY IT themselves and make your own decisions.

there isn't any bias i assure you.. hell ag guys is a sponsor and sells it so knock yourselves out. however keep in mind if you start getting the sides that i mentioned earlier and you decide to stop this stuff the half life is so long (48 hours) that expect 3 more days of problems until its cleared down to lower levels .. the stuff almost put me in the hospital so i cannot recommend it but if you must have it give ag guys a shot, its as potent as the stuff unique sells

^^^ I appreciate this post. It has a much better tenor to it than simply reading clen is 'garbage' and dont touch it or youre an idiot.
Thanks Steve

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok fine, ill play.

How are the results temporary? It can break a plateau. Of course if your diet goes back to shit you will gain weight. But this is the same concept as any of the drugs we take. You have to stay disciplined when coming 'off' or the results will go away. In which case, all the steroids and drugs have temporary results.

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Wrong. Steroids build muscle. Once the muscle is built it can be sustained. It's a little but it can be done. Stims cause fat loss by raising your metabolism. Once it's back to normal (actually, it'll be slower) the body will reach homeostasis. In fact, there's a good chance you'll gain even more fat once off. See how that works?


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You show me one tombstone where someone died specifically from Clen use and ill show you 100 that died from a variety of other drugs that you apparently consider to not be dangerous.

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[B]
What's one thing got to do with the other? You seem to want to stick with this moronic comparison. And what drugs have people died from that I said weren't dangerous? Don't put words in my mouth pal.
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We all take risks by taking steroids and other cocktails to reach our goals. Clen has no more risk than any of them while abused

I am not sure why I am arguing with someone who is known for being argumentative and needing the last word. But I don't care.

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[B]
Don't be a douche, okay? I've got better things to do that to argue with you. If you can't accept people trying to help unless it's what you want to hear, you don't have to listen. And watch who you pull that tough guy message board crap with.

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We all know that you are better than the rest of us.



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[[B]B]
. Don't be an asshole because someone disagrees with you. People around here speak respectfully to each other, ESPECIALLY a new member to a senior member. You better learn that quickly or you'll be gone.
But yeah, I know more than you...that, I'm pretty sure of.
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Lots of people on EF feel the same way as you do. Just not anywhere else. And thats fine. I'm happy to consider all opinions but the glaring majority feels the opposite on this argument.

PS I don't even take Clen

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Why not? So you're admitting this is all just to be a troll? Knock it off.

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