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Why is clen so dangerous

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My buddy swears by it, says take it for 3 weeks and it just melts body fat off of you, why does it have such a stigma on this forum?
 
I am to belive its a dangerous drug because it alters your heart rate and if your conditions arent "right" you just shouldnt take it. May have a hard time sleep, do not mix this shit up with sleeping pills and heart medications etc. It can be rough on people and i've seen it, people getting quickly paranoid and jumps off it 1 week into it.
 
Heart conditions and side-effects, but guys use it without much of a problem most of the time. However, why not just use N2Slin+N2Burn+T3? ;)
 
i gave clen a shot when it was more popular on this board.. i think after PLJ used clen in his cycle is when the popularity peaked on here. after a few days on i started getting the shakes during the day on it.. then after a week on i started getting horrible heart burn every night where i couldn't even move. i then stopped taking it and the sides kept going for 3 days then went away. i threw the bottle away and never again will i touch. is it worth those sides vs. just doing a few laps around the track after your workout instead? thats the question you gotta ask yourself.

i won a contest on here during NFL karma bookie season so i ended up getting a free bottle is the only reason i even tried it. by all means give it a shot if you want. however keep in mind what its doing to your heart behind the scenes and ask yourself is it all worth it vs. other ways
 
Without proper diet and training it's not gonna do you anything for fat loss especially if you have a really high bf and keep eating like a pig.
 
i gave clen a shot when it was more popular on this board.. i think after PLJ used clen in his cycle is when the popularity peaked on here. after a few days on i started getting the shakes during the day on it.. then after a week on i started getting horrible heart burn every night where i couldn't even move. i then stopped taking it and the sides kept going for 3 days then went away. i threw the bottle away and never again will i touch. is it worth those sides vs. just doing a few laps around the track after your workout instead? thats the question you gotta ask yourself.

i won a contest on here during NFL karma bookie season so i ended up getting a free bottle is the only reason i even tried it. by all means give it a shot if you want. however keep in mind what its doing to your heart behind the scenes and ask yourself is it all worth it vs. other ways

I dont think it is safe to assume that peopke are using clen instead of cardio and diet. Many ate looking to add it to those things - not replace them

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My buddy swears by it, says take it for 3 weeks and it just melts body fat off of you, why does it have such a stigma on this forum?

Muscle shaking, insanely painful cramps, wild heartbeat - and I was taking "only" 60-80 mcg/day. After two weeks I threw the remaining pills into a garbage can. Never more!
 
I dont think it is safe to assume that peopke are using clen instead of cardio and diet. Many ate looking to add it to those things - not replace them

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It's very safe to assume that A LOT of people are using all kinds of AAS in place of diet, training, & cardio....

~EZ
 
Why is drinking and smoking considered dangerous? I have a buddy who does it all the time and swears by it.
 
Why is drinking and smoking considered dangerous? I have a buddy who does it all the time and swears by it.

He swears by their positive effect on his body? Your metaphor doesn't make sense although I get your point.

Fact is, nearly everything folks on this board are putting into their bodies are bad for us in some way. I highly doubt Clen is more dangerous than taking tren or staying on AAS year round, yet many do it. I don't understand why things like Clen, t3, novla, etc, are such black sheep amongst hundreds of chemicals we out into our bodies all the time living this 'lifestyle'

I'm sure everyone not on the EF site, including pro bb's) are all wrong and stupid because they still use these particular chems for their goals.
 
He swears by their positive effect on his body? Your metaphor doesn't make sense

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Yes it does...just because someone does something and likes it has no bearing on its safety.

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although I get your point.

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Fact is, nearly everything folks on this board are putting into their bodies are bad for us in some way.

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Not at all. Supplements are healthy and I believe moderate amount of steroids in occasional cycles can be benefical to health as well.


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I highly doubt Clen is more dangerous than taking tren or staying on AAS year round, yet many do it.


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One thing has nothing to do with the other. Hitch hiking is probably no more dangerous than skydiving every day.


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I don't understand why things like Clen, t3, novla, etc, are such black sheep amongst hundreds of chemicals we out into our bodies all the time living this 'lifestyle'

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Those drugs all have different side effects. You need to do some studying.


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I'm sure everyone not on the EF site, including pro bb's) are all wrong and stupid because they still use these particular chems for their goals.

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You're right. They're all geniuses. You've convinced me. Do all the clen you want. I'm sure it's fine.

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My buddy swears by it, says take it for 3 weeks and it just melts body fat off of you, why does it have such a stigma on this forum?

I love CLEN too. Ive seen it strip fat off numerous clients and myself. Most of the bad press comes from too large of amounts.
Some of the studies used MG amounts and we (people) only need MCG amounts.
 
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Snarky answers, short on proof of any kind.

I've done plenty of studying, thnkfully from multiple sources and boards and not just here. There's good info on the EF for the most part, but certain things are so biased and full of agenda that they lose credibility.

People are injecting and swallowing all kinds of drugs, and many from ugl sources. Clen should be the least of the worries.
 
Snarky answers, short on proof of any kind.

I've done plenty of studying, thnkfully from multiple sources and boards and not just here. There's good info on the EF for the most part, but certain things are so biased and full of agenda that they lose credibility.

People are injecting and swallowing all kinds of drugs, and many from ugl sources. Clen should be the least of the worries.

How is this based on any bias? You're being ridiculous. You want proof? What? Would names on tombstones make you happy ? You're trying to convince yourself to do something that people are telling you is dangerous and you think that being a smartass and saying people do worse things is some sort of justifcation. Fine. But don't expect me or anyone else to buy your bullshit.

Clen is extremely unhealthy. But even if it doesn't hurt you, the results are only temporary. If it's worth your health to look lean for a week, go for it. Me? I'm a bodybuilder. I know how to train and diet. You should try it sometime.
 
i would encourage anyone who wants to try clen to TRY IT themselves and make your own decisions.

there isn't any bias i assure you.. hell ag guys is a sponsor and sells it so knock yourselves out. however keep in mind if you start getting the sides that i mentioned earlier and you decide to stop this stuff the half life is so long (48 hours) that expect 3 more days of problems until its cleared down to lower levels .. the stuff almost put me in the hospital so i cannot recommend it but if you must have it give ag guys a shot, its as potent as the stuff unique sells
 
How is this based on any bias? You're being ridiculous. You want proof? What? Would names on tombstones make you happy ? You're trying to convince yourself to do something that people are telling you is dangerous and you think that being a smartass and saying people do worse things is some sort of justifcation. Fine. But don't expect me or anyone else to buy your bullshit.

Clen is extremely unhealthy. But even if it doesn't hurt you, the results are only temporary. If it's worth your health to look lean for a week, go for it. Me? I'm a bodybuilder. I know how to train and diet. You should try it sometime.

Ok fine, ill play.

How are the results temporary? It can break a plateau. Of course if your diet goes back to shit you will gain weight. But this is the same concept as any of the drugs we take. You have to stay disciplined when coming 'off' or the results will go away. In which case, all the steroids and drugs have temporary results.

You show me one tombstone where someone died specifically from Clen use and ill show you 100 that died from a variety of other drugs that you apparently consider to not be dangerous.

Of course if you are stupid and take too much Clen you will be in trouble. Just like any other anabolic, ancillary, and OTC drug

We all take risks by taking steroids and other cocktails to reach our goals. Clen has no more risk than any of them while abused

I am not sure why I am arguing with someone who is known for being argumentative and needing the last word. But I don't care. We all know you are better than the rest of is.
Lots of people on EF feel the same way as you do. Just not anywhere else. And thats fine. I'm happy to consider all opinions but the glaring majority feels the opposite on this argument.

PS I don't even take Clen
 
i would encourage anyone who wants to try clen to TRY IT themselves and make your own decisions.

there isn't any bias i assure you.. hell ag guys is a sponsor and sells it so knock yourselves out. however keep in mind if you start getting the sides that i mentioned earlier and you decide to stop this stuff the half life is so long (48 hours) that expect 3 more days of problems until its cleared down to lower levels .. the stuff almost put me in the hospital so i cannot recommend it but if you must have it give ag guys a shot, its as potent as the stuff unique sells

^^^ I appreciate this post. It has a much better tenor to it than simply reading clen is 'garbage' and dont touch it or youre an idiot.
Thanks Steve
 
Ok fine, ill play.

How are the results temporary? It can break a plateau. Of course if your diet goes back to shit you will gain weight. But this is the same concept as any of the drugs we take. You have to stay disciplined when coming 'off' or the results will go away. In which case, all the steroids and drugs have temporary results.

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Wrong. Steroids build muscle. Once the muscle is built it can be sustained. It's a little but it can be done. Stims cause fat loss by raising your metabolism. Once it's back to normal (actually, it'll be slower) the body will reach homeostasis. In fact, there's a good chance you'll gain even more fat once off. See how that works?


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You show me one tombstone where someone died specifically from Clen use and ill show you 100 that died from a variety of other drugs that you apparently consider to not be dangerous.

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What's one thing got to do with the other? You seem to want to stick with this moronic comparison. And what drugs have people died from that I said weren't dangerous? Don't put words in my mouth pal.
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We all take risks by taking steroids and other cocktails to reach our goals. Clen has no more risk than any of them while abused

I am not sure why I am arguing with someone who is known for being argumentative and needing the last word. But I don't care.

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Don't be a douche, okay? I've got better things to do that to argue with you. If you can't accept people trying to help unless it's what you want to hear, you don't have to listen. And watch who you pull that tough guy message board crap with.

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We all know that you are better than the rest of us.



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. Don't be an asshole because someone disagrees with you. People around here speak respectfully to each other, ESPECIALLY a new member to a senior member. You better learn that quickly or you'll be gone.
But yeah, I know more than you...that, I'm pretty sure of.

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Lots of people on EF feel the same way as you do. Just not anywhere else. And thats fine. I'm happy to consider all opinions but the glaring majority feels the opposite on this argument.

PS I don't even take Clen

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Why not? So you're admitting this is all just to be a troll? Knock it off.







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Muscle shaking, insanely painful cramps, wild heartbeat - and I was taking "only" 60-80 mcg/day. After two weeks I threw the remaining pills into a garbage can. Never more!

Same here. I took clen once and it caused tachycardia and arrhythmia, at a relatively low dose (40mcg). I won't touch the stuff ever again.
 
I love CLEN too. Ive seen it strip fat off numerous clients and myself. Most of the bad press comes from too large of amounts.
Some of the studies used MG amounts and we (people) only need MCG amounts.

Some people react to different drugs in different ways. If I took too large of a dose of clen I'm pretty certain I would end up in the ER and possibly the morgue. Clen doesn't like me.

On the other hand I can take large amounts of nolva and taper down to stay on for many months and not get a single adverse side. But from listening to a lot of people on EF, you'd be amazed I haven't died from that! :rolleyes:
 
We all take risks by taking steroids and other cocktails to reach our goals. Clen has no more risk than any of them while abused
I think insulin might have a pretty big downside if abused. More so to the average user than say, dbol, test, anadrol, tren or even clen.
 
PS I don't even take Clen

I think clen has a big potential to be pretty dangerous. If you want to try it, I would recommend starting it off in a very low dose trial period, tapering up the dose to a "cycle dose" and paying attention to how your body reacts, before you attempt to cycle it.
 
Clen scares me more than anything...I took it and thought I was going to die
 
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