Why does test e or c have to be a long cycle?

[joe d]

i see so many people suggesting if its a this or that you need to run it this long. why? the steroid is still going to work no matter how long you take it. 2 weaks of test suspension, prop, e, or c all do the exact same thing for me at least. i can get a quick 5-7lbs. the only difference it the time frame of the effectiveness but you still get the same 2 wks worth of test regardless.

please respectfully show me where im wrong in this if i am.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

the ester

 

[joe d]

the ester

please elaborate.

 

[the.gladiator1987]

damn i knew youd ask that

so of test c you shoot 500mg, but thats not all test. some of it is ester, and the ester slowly releases it in the bloodstream. thats why you shoot once a week unlike prop which is EOD. prop people do 150mg EOD but they feel it quicker because the ester releases it so much fatser. idk i could be wrong good question lol

 

[aquatic_glories]

you see level increases in the blood within 1-2 hours. So Joe D , you are correct on this.

It looks funny to me when people say that their enanthate starts showing results at 8th week whereas I reach most of my gains by week 4, and gain some until week 6 even with cyp.

People have to stop insisting on that, either their gear is shit or they dont train or diet well.
Plus you get the benefit of less shots and more stable levels.

Also one more thing, I really dont want to bring this right now but the half life of enanthate isnt 10.5 days it is about 5-6 days and I have read clinical studies to prove it. Blood levels peak much sooner than people think and decline quicker.

 

[miplank]

I don't know if it necessarily HAS to be longer, but seeing how typically most people don't actually "feel" test-e or test-c "kick in" until week 5-6 then running them 10-12+weeks gives them that time to feel it.


But you're right, the test starts working right away even if you don't feel it.

 

[swole]

takes longer for blood levels to build

so you feel it later

plus i like the idea of having muscle slowly build

 

[miplank]

you see level increases in the blood within 1-2 hours. So Joe D , you are correct on this.

It looks funny to me when people say that their enanthate starts showing results at 8th week whereas I reach most of my gains by week 4, and gain some until week 6 even with cyp.

People have to stop insisting on that, either their gear is shit or they dont train or diet well.
Plus you get the benefit of less shots and more stable levels.

Also one more thing, I really dont want to bring this right now but the half life of enanthate isnt 10.5 days it is about 5-6 days and I have read clinical studies to prove it. Blood levels peak much sooner than people think and decline quicker.

Do you have a link to the clinical studies showing the half life of test-e being 5-6 days? I'd be interested in reading this.

 

[HAYEZ]

i get all my gains form test e or c within 3 hours of injecting...

 

[housemusik83]

takes me around 2 weeks, no matter what my cycle is to fully be in gear

 

[aquatic_glories]

Do you have a link to the clinical studies showing the half life of test-e being 5-6 days? I'd be interested in reading this.

Hopefully someone will link those for me.Almost have no time for the next 2 weeks.
If I dont see someone linking in the next few days, I will try to find it anyway bro.. (Until that time, I even remember some old arguements in this forum, check those out )

Also, I am dead serious on this , people are making a mistake.

 

[miplank]

Hopefully someone will link those for me.Almost have no time for the next 2 weeks.
If I dont see someone linking in the next few days, I will try to find it anyway bro.. (Until that time, I even remember some old arguements in this forum, check those out )

Also, I am dead serious on this , people are making a mistake.

i'm not flaming, i'm genuinely curious and would like to read that.

 

[joe d]

i have personally ran several blasts of 3000mg of prop in 3 wks and one blast with 3000mg test c in 3 wks and saw no difference at all other than the gain period came a little later. but if your still on cycle in pre pct or pct and your getting your gains then your still getting them. but im not really comparing so much the 3-4 wk cycle to the 12-16 wk just the basic 8-10 or 10-12 is where i dont understand the concept of telling the new guy to run his test e for at least 10 wks because 8 isnt long enough. and that if your going to run 8 wks you need prop.

i do see a difference in using suspension. i use suspension before a w/o and get a burst of agression from it. it just makes for a more productive sesson