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Why do I see people flaming newbie who want to do a winny only cycle for the there first time?

there is a difference between flaming and a certain level of frustration that vets may feel from time to time when the same questions get asked by bros that just do not understand the world of gear--it is not just about pinning or taking a pill that help you gain some weight--there is an entire science and many schools of thought therein about ways to use aas. that said, no school of thougt would advocte winny as a 1st cycle unless you were a sprinter---and even then.....
 
In addition to joint problems, winny should be injected everyday to take advantage of its short half life, and I doubt a beginner would want to shoot ED.
 
Re: Why do I see people flaming newbie who want to do a winny only cycle for the ther

Well about the flaming, they criticize about there lifting and diet program when there research is in fault not there training. Thats what pretty much what aas is for to enhance your abilities and the calories and training determine your mass gain but winny or anavar will enchance your performance. I believe vets who use aas they end up obtaining a tolerance for them and require to stack them or try others to get the same effects as they did before and tell others to do the same. For people who used winny alone and did not like the results for performance, my question to them is what were their stats? I believe the bigger you are the more you need to feel the effects like alcohol.
 
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eddymerckx said:
there is a difference between flaming and a certain level of frustration that vets may feel from time to time when the same questions get asked by bros that just do not understand the world of gear--it is not just about pinning or taking a pill that help you gain some weight--there is an entire science and many schools of thought therein about ways to use aas. that said, no school of thougt would advocte winny as a 1st cycle unless you were a sprinter---and even then.....

Good response bro.
 
Re: Why do I see people flaming newbie who want to do a winny only cycle for the ther

snakeryu said:
Well about the flaming, they criticize about there lifting and diet program when there research is in fault not there training. Thats what pretty much what aas is for to enhance your abilities and the calories and training determine your mass gain but winny or anavar will enchance your performance. I believe vets who use aas they end up obtaining a tolerance for them and require to stack them or try others to get the same effects as they did before and tell others to do the same. For people who used winny alone and did not like the results for performance, my question to them is what were their stats? I believe the bigger you are the more you need to feel the effects like alcohol.
All vets & experienced users here started as a newbie initially. Thats why we advocate using a minimal dose of test for a first cycle then build up compounds on test for subsequent cycles. This is the written law in using AAS. We do not tell people to stack gear until they have had a considerable amount of experience with the use & dose of different AAS & how they react together in the body. Just because winny does not aromitise & is a good strength drug, does not make it a wise choice for a first cycle. It is a harsh drug & should be used sparingly.
 
Re: Why do I see people flaming newbie who want to do a winny only cycle for the ther

i agree test only first, but some choose winny cause the word on the street is that it gets u "ripped" and noobs tend to hear about this that why they choose it, it will give ur body a lean look with correct diet and training, but any aas can if the rest is in check, winny is harsh on lipids, havoc on joints,bad shutdown, great for strenght and lean mass,
 
the_alcatraz said:
+1

I would also consider giving n00bs advice to use test only for their first cycle.....pref. test prop.



I am going to agree with you Prop is probably the only test i will use anymore. I used it for my first cycle and i love it. I will continue to use Prop with everyother cycle i do. :)
 
I agree with snaker. I am doing my first cycle (25mg PO bid - 6 weeks) ever and decided on whinny (could not find ava - close tie to whinny) and so far (3 weeks later) am happy with the results. I started the cycle to get cut, but the increase in strength and size was an added bonus. What I have noticed so far:

1. Increased strength
2. Increased energgy
3. 1/4 inch off the waist (starting stricter diet tomorrow)
4. Trouble sleeping
5. Very slight joint pain

I will keep you posted.
 
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