why cant we discuss EF "problems"?

[DTOX]

I think it's pretty interesting that GS has to flood me with pop-up ads, click-banners and constantly intice me with "platinum memberships" because running EF is "sooooo expensive"...

...yet none of the other dozen anaoblic discussion sites I'm on pull this bullshit. And they seem to be doing just fine...

 

[halfaclue]

I think it's pretty interesting that GS has to flood me with pop-up ads, click-banners and constantly intice me with "platinum memberships" because running EF is "sooooo expensive"...

...yet none of the other dozen anaoblic discussion sites I'm on pull this bullshit. And they seem to be doing just fine...

And 5 minutes of your time to compare member lists, number of threads, number of posts, would probably tell you that they are much much smaller. I belong to a few..some only have 40 users on at any given time. I'm not saying all sites, but EF is the biggest one I use. That and AR and they do have banners all over and there user/thread/post count is a third of EF's

 

[Rio 2001]

What would lead me to be a paying member?
Exclusive features.
I´d like to be able to acess full texts scientific studies like the ones in "Steroids" journal, but others as well, as jama, nejm, jap, ijsn, etc...Medline, mdconsult and so many others have institutional access , and each platinum member would have a password.
I´d like to read exclusive interviews with famous bbuilding related authors and pros, as well as chat with them on specific dates ..You can allow 20 or 30 members on each chat, and others could watch...
I´d like to have special discounts on supplements.
And why is it platinum or nothing? Why not silver, gold and platinum, and rank the prices according to the benefits?
Simply it is not clear, now, that you´ll be able to get REALLY EXCLUSIVE BENEFITS by becoming platinum.

Kudos to Zyglamail for being democratic and listen to people.

 

[psychedout]

$750,000 to run a bodybuilding board? Thats the best joke I've heard all day.

I agree, i'm not saying it isn't costly, BUT it's not that expensive.

 

[Zyglamail]

What would lead me to be a paying member?
Exclusive features.
I´d like to be able to acess full texts scientific studies like the ones in "Steroids" journal, but others as well, as jama, nejm, jap, ijsn, etc...Medline, mdconsult and so many others have institutional access , and each platinum member would have a password.
I´d like to read exclusive interviews with famous bbuilding related authors and pros, as well as chat with them on specific dates ..You can allow 20 or 30 members on each chat, and others could watch...
I´d like to have special discounts on supplements.
And why is it platinum or nothing? Why not silver, gold and platinum, and rank the prices according to the benefits?
Simply it is not clear, now, that you´ll be able to get REALLY EXCLUSIVE BENEFITS by becoming platinum.

Kudos to Zyglamail for being democratic and listen to people.

Great idea Rio, keep em coming gang.

 

[hardrock]

Most people pay for these types of services on credit cards etc. I personally don't like have my real name address etc associated w/my user name. Not that I am being shady, just cautious. Also for me to cut a money order each month is obsurd, nonetheless pay a full year upfront. I enjoy what I get for free and I am content for now.

That right there is the EXACT reason I've never become platinum.

 

[Juice Authority]

There are obvious benefits to going Plat that justify the cost IMO. It costs like $11 a month. I'm not sure. They just charge my credit card. Not a major investment by any stretch of the imagination especially if you spend a good deal of time here each month. Some of the more obvious advantages of going Plat from my perspective are the following:

Reliable source checks
Search function
More bandwidth for your EF email account
Access to steroid pics
Good porn
Access to Best of EF threads - very useful info
Better visibility for questions
More one to one with the Mods and Vets
Plat Chat

One thing that I believe should be available to all members whether they're Plat or not is the ability to search the site. Limiting this to Plat members only causes a great deal of redundancy in questions and sucks up a lot of unnecessary board space. Being able to search the site has helped me a great deal and eliminated the need to post a question that has already been discussed at lenght several times.

 

[mrpg13]

Depressive Juice

Hey bro, I did not mean to offend you with my post(if I did). All i was trying to say is that there are a lot of people on here that dont pay shit to support the site, and they still bitch. Since you were Platinum, at one time, I apologize. As for me being Platinum. I was on this board for a long time before i went platinum. I finally decided that it was only fair to help support the site that I have learned so much from, and will continue to learn from. I just think some people think that they deserve all the thingss that this site offers. Some people dont know the difference between a "right" and a "privelage." If you want the privelage of all this site offers, then you should pay to be Platinum.

 

[Riker29]

I think that LOT of people, paid or not, are actually quite supportive of the site, and its efforts to generate revenue.

And lets face it - there are a LOT of non-platinum people that contribute a LOT by sharing their knowledge and experience.

I think thats for the most part, most of the "complaints" tend to fall into 2 catagories:

The Search Feature - The handicapped search is ridiculous. It wil be the long-term nail in the coffin for this board, and will drive its quality down. Way way down.

The "Bait and Switch" - This bit of someone becoming platinum, and then they MUST stay platinum FOREVER or else they sacrifice their name, is just wrong. Very wrong. If someone becomes Platinum for like 6 months, and then for some reason they choose to give that up, fine. Sure - go ahead and take away the Platinum priavledges and all - but don't lock their account! Thats just wrong. We have lost a LOT of very good knowledgeable people because of this issue.

Frankly if those 2 issues wree solved, 90% of the gripes would go away. Most of the rest of the bitching is due to unreasonable stuff, like people wanting to ask for prices and sources, and everyone who is responsible would pretty much agree on those issues.

But the 2 items above are what is causing most of the problems, and frankly, preventing many people from recommending this site, and causing many people to leave.

And as for the ads, and the pop-ups, get over it. Anyone dumb enough to believe they can buy DBol from their online Phamacy is clueless, or anyone who bitches about pop-ups when surfing and informative site for free, needs to wake up.

 

[KINGKONG69]

i became plat because i was sick of pop-ups, and wanted to be able to use the search.

hey zyg, i wish since im platinum, i could have my old email addres of "KINGKONG69@ELITE" back. i lost it due to inactivity.

also, why since im platinum do i still have to sign into my new elitefitness email every 3 weeks or loose it.
the 11 bucks a month should cover email, and secure it for you whether you check it or not.