Why can't I grow?

[HouseMaster]

Somebody help me, please. I cannot seem to grow. I am 6'2" and 220 lbs with 15%BF. So far I have gotten somewhat stronger/harder, just NO growth. Here's the rundown...
Note, I am diabetic on a fairly low carb diet.
I am eating until I am sick (3500 - 4000 calories per day) 50% protein, 30% fat and 20% carbohydrates, to include four servings of protein drinks per day. Blood glucose ranges 100-140. I work out 5 days per week at a pretty high intensity. Moderate-low cardio 3x per week. Here is the kicker... my cycle...

Week 1 & 2: 35 mg dbol and 100 mg trenbalone acetate ED
Week 3 to 8: 50 mg dbol and 100 mg trenbalone acetate ED
Week 9 & 10: 50 mg dbol and 100 mg EACH tren and test prop ED
I also take 0.5 mg arimidex EOD while on dbol
(the rest is yet to come, this is the plan...)
Weeks 11-16 to have 100 mg test prop and 20 mg nolva ED
Followed by clomid therapy...

It seems like a lot of juice for no gains... otherwise I live clean. Can some one offer me some insight?

HM

 

[powrlifter7862]

man, i pity you liver, 10 weeks on d-bol? damn.. research it better man.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Yeah powerlifter has got a point...but that's obviously not the reason you're not growing.

Obviously since you have diabetes, i am not qualified to make adjustments to your diet, and I would not do so without talking to your doctor.

The problem might be that you are not periodizing your workout routines. Try dropping the intensity of your workouts and upping the volume, which is always a good thing to do during any cycle, since what the juice does is lower the time needed for recovery between exercise sessions and delay the onset of fatigue during each session.

Then switch it up every 4-6 weeks, altering the intensity and volume of workouts each period. Your body will not respond to the same workout routine day in day out for too long...you need to change it up.

 

[slobberknocker]

Good info from Bulldog_10.

Your diet looks ok, and you're taking more gear than me (6 ft, 317 lbs), so I'd say that leaves training and rest. Why don't you post your current workout routine?

 

[Nelson Montana]

4000 calories a day? Are you sure?

I'd also venture to guess all that d-bol is fake or underdosed.

At any rate, drop the cardio. You'll grow.

 

[HouseMaster]

Powerlifter said: man, i pity you liver, 10 weeks on d-bol? damn.. research it better man.

I understand the concern and made a choice. Since I also did not grow from the first cycle 100mg fina ED week 1-8/100 mg test prop ED week 4-12... I got the following advise from an M.D. involved with this sort of thing for 25+ years... yes, d-bol is associated with liver problems, but usually from chronic overexposure. This is my first time on dbol and we decided that since I failed to grow on my first cycle, we would go fairly large doses for up to ten weeks. He felt for sure I would grow on that and could cut dbol out at 6 or maybe 8 weeks. No luck.

Also, yes, I am painfully aware of the calories I eat... 4000 is extreme days, usually 3500 (5 meals and 4 servings of protein drinks at 250 cal each)

Finally, sample exercise week:
As Heavy as I possibly can

Monday
Flat Bench (4 X 10)
Incline Bench (4 X 8)
Flat Dumbbell Flys (4 X 10)
Cable Crossovers (3 X 12)
Straight Bar Pushdowns (3 X 10)
Nose Breakers (3 X 10)
Seated Triceps Extensions (3 X 10)
Standing Calve Raises (3 X 12)
Seated Calve Raises (3 X 12)
30 min cardio

Tuesday
Squats (4 X 10)
Leg Presses (4 X 8-10)
Leg Extensions (4 X10)
Leg Curls (4 X 10)
Isolated Standing Calve raises (3 X 12)
Calve Raises (Leg Press Mach.) (3 X 12)

Wednesday
30 min cardio

Thursday
Military Press (4 X 10)
Dumbbell Side Laterals (4 X 8)
Front Dumbbell Raises (4 X 8)
Rear Flys (Mach.) (4 X 12)
Standing Straight Bar Curls (4 x10)
Alternating Dumbbell Curls (3 x10)
Preacher Curls (Mach.) (3 x10)
Wrist Curls (3 x15)
Floor Crunches (2 X 100)
Ab Machine (3 X 50)

Friday
Front Lat Pull Downs (4 X10)
Close Grip Pull Downs (4 X10)
One Arm Dumbbell Rows (4 X 8)
Close Grip Machine Rows (4 X10)
Shrug Machine (4 X 12)
Dumbbell Shrugs (standing) (4 X 12)
Ab Machine (3 X 50)
Floor Crunches (2 X 100)

Saturday or Sunday
30 min cardio
nautilus (medium weight, focus on peak contractions and no rest between)

I mix up the exercises used in the routine to keep it interesting, but in general, this is what I do. I have been told by my w/o partner that I tend not to rest enough between sets... I do alternate exercises. For example, after a set of flat benches, I will do a set of seated rows, then go back to presses and so on... instead of sitting around for a long ass time. Will that keep you from growing? I can see limiting growth, but not stopping it altogether...

Thanks for the advise... maybe I can still salvage SOMETHING from this cycle...

HM

 

[HouseMaster]

Oh yeah, Nleson, I am giving the dbol to someone who will establish its authenticity and dose tomorrow. I will let you know.

HM

 

[Scottyo]

I know your on a good amount of gear but it looks to me like your overtraining. If your hitting every set hard thats 30 sets total your doing on monday alone, and following it with 30 min cardio? Id look there for your problem. How long are you in the gym for? Also, resting in between sets is important and if you insist on lifting and cardio so much, I would up the calories significantly.
My 2 cents.

 

[DepressiveJuice]

ahem- just a question for us ignorant people. can you make good gains if you are diabetic?

 

[slobberknocker]

You are overtraining. 30 sets per workout is insane. I don't do that many sets in a week. I do about 5-6 sets per workout, 4 times a week. Cut it back to at most 10-12 sets per workout.