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people are just idiots. they really are.

was outside earlier and saw my neighbor. told her to pass the message along to her boyfriend that i'm working on a new routine that he might want to look into (the 5x5 that i'm trying to hash out). yeah, this guy is almost 6', bout 235lbs. think he said he can bench 305. he's about twice my size. i'm only 5'6", 160lbs, and havn't broken the 200 mark on the bench yet, but i'm close (hit 195 for 3 on wednesday, new high for me). so anyway...

i tell her to let him know i'm working on a new routine and it's something he might be interested in. she says "well, no offense, but he's a lot bigger than you are, height AND width wise." this was implied in a way of 'why should he take training tips from you?' i blew off her response, meaning, it's not getting to me. he's not an idiot like she is. we've discussed routines, and he's impressed with my leg work. if i've got something better, i know he'll give it a shot.

but why are people so stupid? why do they think you have to be 6' 245lbs just to workout on a regular basis? really, why does size matter so much? i'll be chatting with someone while working down a protein shake. they'll ask me what it is and i'll tell them, and then i get a strange look because i say "yes, i've been working out all semester, and i don't plan on stopping any time soon." i just don't get it. guess people think you've got to be huge before you can start lifting. just blows my mind.

and my neighbor didn't offend me. i don't like to talk shit about others, but she's just white trash anyway and an alcoholic. she asked me how she can lose some weight, and i told her to stop drinking, cause i know she's half drunk every night. boy did i get the death look. telling her to stop drinking and she'll start to lose weight was like telling her that she should be nice to her kids and maybe, just maybe, they'll listen to her and respect her. so really, did she offend me? absolutely not. but she did bring the "you lift weights?!" disbelief that i get from people back into my mind, and i thought i'd bring it up.

oh well, i felt like ranting a little bit and see if anyone else has had the same experiences before they were able to increase their physical size, or even current things that just make you scratch your head and think "uh, why is that so hard to believe?"
 
There are no absolutes, but quite often the REALLY big person does have more and better knowledge about training... In a lot of cases...they have been where you are now and have went past it.

No idea if this is the case in your case though.

B True
 
too many idiots think that they must know more than someone if they are bigger than them.
But if he wants to play that game, tell him/her the program was designed by someone who is not even 5'9", 250lbs, and who benches well over 400lbs
 
b fold the truth said:
There are no absolutes, but quite often the REALLY big person does have more and better knowledge about training... In a lot of cases...they have been where you are now and have went past it.

No idea if this is the case in your case though.

B True
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If this were true it makes me wonder why so many people were arguing against DC training...Dante is like a human wall.

Hold your horses people, I'm not trying to start a flame war or a pro-DC mantra. I'm just trying to illustrate a point. Size may help someone's point be received better, but it's not the be-all-end-all of authority.
 
maybe i wasn't clear enough in that post. this wasn't HIM that was tossing the idiocy. it was HER. she doesn't weight train. she does 12oz curls and screams at her kids. that's about all she does. HE is willing to talk routines all the time. obviously, what he's done so far, he has done right. i have taken tips and pointers from him when discussing my routine, and he was taking some pointers from me when it came to my leg routine. yeah, i may not be bigger than him, but i do have the better leg routine that's going to give me more in the long run than his will, and he openly acknowledged that. HER, however, she doesn't have a single clue, and she fits into that catagory of people that think you can't lift weights unless you're already huge. and that was my point...why do people think you have to be huge in order to workout?
 
Dude...I've got to ask, why are you bothering to talk to your neighbor at all?

If you already know she's stupid (and doesn't sound very charming, to boot), avoid her. You don't need the strife.

Besideswhich, I doubt her glorious boyfriend came out of the chute weighing over 230. He sounds alright, but he's still attached to this "white trash" neighbor either way. Contact with him means you're just that much more likely to run into the stupid woman you dislike.
 
crak600 said:
maybe i wasn't clear enough in that post. this wasn't HIM that was tossing the idiocy. it was HER. she doesn't weight train. she does 12oz curls and screams at her kids. that's about all she does. HE is willing to talk routines all the time. obviously, what he's done so far, he has done right. i have taken tips and pointers from him when discussing my routine, and he was taking some pointers from me when it came to my leg routine. yeah, i may not be bigger than him, but i do have the better leg routine that's going to give me more in the long run than his will, and he openly acknowledged that. HER, however, she doesn't have a single clue, and she fits into that catagory of people that think you can't lift weights unless you're already huge. and that was my point...why do people think you have to be huge in order to workout?
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I was discussing this with Cuthbert the last time he was here to train. So many times it is the 'friends' of fellow competitors which fire my attitude up towards them. It is rarely the athlete which claims to know it all, it is normally thier friends and/or family.

If they don't have a clue...don't pay them any attention. Try to explain it once or twice...then let them alone.

B True
 
Gludukat - you're right, i can't stand her at all. but it so happens that i see her in passing more often than i see him. i don't care to talk to her at all, but the boyfriend is pretty cool to talk to, and sometimes i gotta pass messages through her. i really don't have many friends around here (cause most people in the area are just like her), so for me to find someone in my neighborhood that i can actually talk to and hold an intelligent conversation is nice. eventually he's gonna ditch her, cause she's an idiot.
 
See you have to deal trash with trash. Meaning if she pull out that white trash attitude on you, you got to pull out some getto black trash attitude on her ass. Next time she is talking shit, just shove your hand on her face and say:
Talk to the hand cause the face ain't listening.
 
Originally posted by b fold the truth I was discussing this with Cuthbert the last time he was here to train. So many times it is the 'friends' of fellow competitors which fire my attitude up towards them. It is rarely the athlete which claims to know it all, it is normally thier friends and/or family.

If they don't have a clue...don't pay them any attention. Try to explain it once or twice...then let them alone.

B True
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i run into this same situation when it comes to discussing helmet laws and motorcycle safety. some people think it's "cool" to ride w/out a helmet (or even ANY safety equipment - gloves, boots, jacket, etc) now that our state has repealed the helmet law. when i try to say "well, it's your head, if you don't value it, don't wear a helmet." some people STILL don't understand. Darwinism in effect right there. let the strong and intelligent survive and let the rest die off. we don't need 'em anyway. i don't even bother to argue. i explain once that while wearing a helmet i was knocked out cold but didn't suffer any serious injuries, and that if i hadn't been wearing that helmet, i'd either be dead or i'd be a vegetable. if they can't understand the value of a helmet after that, then i drop the subject. i won't even stick around to let them argue their point, because they have no point. just pointless to keep explaining something to someone that has a big empty space between the ears.
 
"you gotta start somewhere"

that girl was a bitch, plain and simple. however those guys making comments about you while your drinking the protien shake shoul shut up.

ah well, keep at it man.
 
Debaser said:


If this were true it makes me wonder why so many people were arguing against DC training...Dante is like a human wall.

Hold your horses people, I'm not trying to start a flame war or a pro-DC mantra. I'm just trying to illustrate a point. Size may help someone's point be received better, but it's not the be-all-end-all of authority.
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BIG ASS BUMP BRO!

Also,the 'big guy' is often a fatass too!
 
^^^^^^^
Too true...

I hate it when fat guys assume they'll be strong and good at weights. I've seen it a million times and they can't stand it when they go on the bench after me and have to take half the weight off!! (by the way i'm 6'0", 180lbs)

Weight and size (especially height) has very little correlation with strength.

What about fat guys that can't even get out of bed - they might be 6'5" and 400lbs but I bet they can't lift shit.
 
paul2110 said:
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What about fat guys that can't even get out of bed - they might be 6'5" and 400lbs but I bet they can't lift shit.
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Bump for Liftbig's response.


:p
 
SlavikHavik said:
"you gotta start somewhere"

that girl was a bitch, plain and simple. however those guys making comments about you while your drinking the protien shake shoul shut up.

ah well, keep at it man.
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i've just gotten looks from people i know about the protein shakes, havn't gotten any comments from anyone i don't know, cept one day i heard someone say "why is that guy carrying milk around?" i freeze about 4oz of milk at night, add another 4oz in the morning, and just shove the container into a mesh pouch on the side of my backpack, bottle of water on the other side. by the time i'm done my routine, the milk is usually defrosted and i have a nice cold shake. but friends gave me looks when they realized what i was drinking and when i told them why. but it's 100% true, have to start somewhere.

if one of my friends wouldn't of asked what i was drinking and why, we wouldn't be setting up a routine to work together next semsester. and he needs it more than i do. just wait til i tell him he needs to cut his diet, cause he's got some fat to burn off. how do you tell a friend that in a nice way? :confused: i'm gonna do my best to be nice. he's not huge, but he's got a little to lose. he left the routine up to me, so maybe he'll leave diet decesions up to me too....
 
Don't sweat it, bro. I used to bring protein drinks to work and I got a lot of strange looks. Also, I would eat something at 10 in the morning and people would be so fascinated. "Is that breakfast or lunch?". I would just answer "brunch" - if I told them I was eating 6 meals a day they would probably faint. Sometimes people get so damn nosy.
 
b fold the truth said:
There are no absolutes, but quite often the REALLY big person does have more and better knowledge about training... In a lot of cases...they have been where you are now and have went past it.

No idea if this is the case in your case though.

B True
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defintaely good quote. NO matter what i'll see this skinny kid my whole life i don't see gains like other people do just becaseu i see myself everyday. But i'll tell you what i see people and am like damn i'm glad i'm not that small anymore i worked so hard to get past that
 
but be careful..remember,

anyone can stick a needle in their ass
 
Arnold'sApprentice said:
but be careful..remember,

anyone can stick a needle in their ass
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so scary, yet, so true. i'm so afraid to get sucked into something like that. personally, i don't care what anyone else does. i don't care who does those things and who doesn't. but it's not something that i want to get into. it's so tempting, but i really can't see how the results are worth the risks. i've looked into it, briefly, and read on a few things some of the side effects....is it really worth it? guess that's a personal decesion.

now if my doc decides to give me an oral instead of an injection in my spine in 2 weeks, that's a different story lol
 
lol I never tell people I drink protein shakes. They usually ask 'Do you work out?' lol, people think working out thins you out. Oh well.
 
crak600 said:
people are just idiots. they really are.

was outside earlier and saw my neighbor. told her to pass the message along to her boyfriend that i'm working on a new routine that he might want to look into (the 5x5 that i'm trying to hash out). yeah, this guy is almost 6', bout 235lbs. think he said he can bench 305. he's about twice my size. i'm only 5'6", 160lbs, and havn't broken the 200 mark on the bench yet, but i'm close (hit 195 for 3 on wednesday, new high for me). so anyway...

i tell her to let him know i'm working on a new routine and it's something he might be interested in. she says "well, no offense, but he's a lot bigger than you are, height AND width wise." this was implied in a way of 'why should he take training tips from you?' i blew off her response, meaning, it's not getting to me. he's not an idiot like she is. we've discussed routines, and he's impressed with my leg work. if i've got something better, i know he'll give it a shot.

but why are people so stupid? why do they think you have to be 6' 245lbs just to workout on a regular basis? really, why does size matter so much? i'll be chatting with someone while working down a protein shake. they'll ask me what it is and i'll tell them, and then i get a strange look because i say "yes, i've been working out all semester, and i don't plan on stopping any time soon." i just don't get it. guess people think you've got to be huge before you can start lifting. just blows my mind.

and my neighbor didn't offend me. i don't like to talk shit about others, but she's just white trash anyway and an alcoholic. she asked me how she can lose some weight, and i told her to stop drinking, cause i know she's half drunk every night. boy did i get the death look. telling her to stop drinking and she'll start to lose weight was like telling her that she should be nice to her kids and maybe, just maybe, they'll listen to her and respect her. so really, did she offend me? absolutely not. but she did bring the "you lift weights?!" disbelief that i get from people back into my mind, and i thought i'd bring it up.

oh well, i felt like ranting a little bit and see if anyone else has had the same experiences before they were able to increase their physical size, or even current things that just make you scratch your head and think "uh, why is that so hard to believe?"
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Im alot stronger then your friend. And Id definately take advice from you. Im always looking to learn. Sounds like shes a major bitch. Im sure she has lots of her own insecurities. You got friends where it matters man, on Elite!! Fuck all the rest of the non-dedicated,spineless weaklings!
 
i've got 2 herniated discs in my thoracic spine. biggest source of aggrivation i've ever had. anyway....
last feb or march, i went in for a treatment, and they injected cortizone (sp) into my spine at one disc level. it f'ed me up for months. really did. the first month i was in agonizing pain, and that was only supposed to last for 3 days, and after 10 i was supposed to be feeling better than before.
regular doctor is sending me for treatment again, or at least to be evaluated for it. so one of 3 things can happen during that appointment. i'll either recieve another steroid injection in my spine. i'll get sent home w/out treatment and a recommendation to keep me on pain killers (or maybe to drop the pain killers, god only knows there). Or i could be given an oral steroid instead of the injection. not sure what's giong to happen. and honestly, i'm scared this time consdiering what happened last time.
i'm opposed to steroid use, unless it's for a medical reason. that's just my opinion. if it'd so happen that the doc doesn't want to give me an injection but instead wants to run me on a cycle of an oral steroid (it's happened for people before with back problems), i'm going to take full advantage of it. and why not? imo, there's no reason to NOT take full advantage of a situation like that.
lifting has given me added strength to help overcome regular daily activities that just a few months ago gave me pain. my idea was to start hitting the gym to increase my strength, and hopefully i could get through my day better. and for the most part, that has worked out great for me.
things never work out for me when it comes to doctors though. something tells me i'm going to end up getting another injeciton and having to suffer for a month or two.

any idea what that feels like? i'll tell ya what, they drugged me up before they did the shot, and it didn't do SHIT to help the pain. when they stuck that needle in (and i was sitting upright), i had a tremendously sharp pain shoot up and down my spine, then across my back in a straight line. i saw a flash of white light it hurt so damn bad. and if the nurse that was standing in front of me would'nt of been so nice, i swear i would've punched her so hard she would've gone through the wall 5 feet behind her. that's how bad it hurt. so see why i'd prefer an oral over an injection? hope that clarified. i'm not looking for oral sex from my doctor, but maybe he can write me a perscription to recieve more of that from my fiance.....lol
 
If that was the case then why are people using methods and trianing philophies preached by the USSR olympic coaches and many exercise scienctist of the past and present. (Ie. Siff, Verhoskansky, Zatsiorsky, Tudor, Kreamer, Flek.. etc)


Kc
 
If what was the case? you've kind of lost me. are you talking about training methods or running cycles?

i've stated my opinion on running cycles, and that's all it is, my opinion. everyone is different on their opinions.

as far as training methods, my opinion, it's just like everything else. there can always be a better way or something that works out better, and we all know that. being open minded is the key to anything in life. that's why i'm changing my routine, because there's other stuff that does work better. speaking of which, can someone please check the thread "5x5 - i'm lost" and critique my proposed routine. i'm kind of lost on it still, and the biggest part right now is some of the exercises in needsize's routine i'm unsure of. thanks!

Mike
 
people are so fucking insensitive when you train, I weigh between 220 - 225 lbs at 5 9. Anyway i broke my leg years ago went to work after a few weeks off, with it in a pott and all the manager could say is hey look you are losing weight not how is your leg. fucking ignorant jeolous arseholes. If you don't see an old friend for a few years and he has put on a few stone(fat), you try to think of a diplomatic way of telling him , not god you are getting so fat.

fuck em bro , i will try your routine no probs
 
XtremePowerLifter2000 said:
If that was the case then why are people using methods and trianing philophies preached by the USSR olympic coaches and many exercise scienctist of the past and present. (Ie. Siff, Verhoskansky, Zatsiorsky, Tudor, Kreamer, Flek.. etc)


Kc
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people who follow these routines... are probably ones who want to be FREAKY strong and explsosive.
 
winny100 said:
fuck em bro , i will try your routine no probs
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ok. check out needsize's routine, cause that's what i'm going with lol

guess it's not my routine, but everyone says it's a good routine, so yeah, i'm gonna work it. i've been doing pyramids for 2 months now, and that's worked out pretty good for me, but i have a feeling the way 5x5 works it's going to give me a little bit faster results. and everything everyone has said, yeah, i'd love to go in to the gym every week already knowing how much i'm going to lift, not going in wondering what i'm going to be able to work with that day.

i guess i started this thread to see if i could answer a question that i state every day...why are people so stupid? you see/read news stories and just scratch your head and wonder. you see people do things and you just wonder why. it'll never change really. so in order to get away from a lot of stupidity, i went back to college after a 7 year absence. and even then, i talk to college students and they really don't give a rats ass. they skip classes, they're satisfied with Cs and Ds, when they know full well that with some effort, they'll be A and B students. it just blows my mind sometimes. makes me wonder if the human race is doomed. but then i remember that there are still people out there with intelligence. so really, maybe i should ask myself, why is it i always come into contact with the stupid people?! :confused:
 
Cuthbert said:



people who follow these routines... are probably ones who want to be FREAKY strong and explsosive.
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I don't want to get too big or strong though...

B True
 
rjl296 said:

i especially dont wanna get as big as the guys in the magazines
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eh, no, definetly not. yeah, i want to be able to see every muscle, i want some more definition, but not that freakish type definition. i'd rather bulk up and be thick everywhere than have that ripping definition. i have no desires for competing bodybuilding or for strength, and with all my tattoos, prolly wouldn't be able to anyway...my half sleeve on my right arm kind of hides the definition of my bicep and tricep. and that type of ripping high definition physique has to be hell to maintain. while it looks good, i want to have some flexibility in my diet and routine.

fiance says i'm getting hard to snuggle up to now. literally, i'm getting harder. she says she doesn't like it, i used to be softer. she's stated that she doesn't like ripping muscles everywhere, and no, i don't want to look that way either. but in the end, it's my body and i'm the one that's working on it. she just has to live with the results. hope she likes it.
 
crak600 said:


fiance says i'm getting hard to snuggle up to now. literally, i'm getting harder. she says she doesn't like it, i used to be softer. she's stated that she doesn't like ripping muscles everywhere, and no, i don't want to look that way either. but in the end, it's my body and i'm the one that's working on it. she just has to live with the results. hope she likes it.
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Nefi says that I get bigger every time that she sees me. She can't get her arms around me as it is and knows that I plan to get A LOT bigger and stronger.

She likes my attitude towards my goals though.

B True
 
Why are people so stupid?

I was doing deadlifts today, and a guy was "trying" to do deal lift with a
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Anyone seen it? basically a guy stands in middle and dips down. Its really weird I tried it once and didn't like it. Well back to the story,when he would go down he would bend his back, it would turn into an Mcdonals Arc! After seeing he do this for 2 sets, I told him that he was doing it wrong, also told him that he could pinch some of his nerves, or even cause miss alingment on the discs of the spinal cord. He listens to me, then goes back to doing deadlifts with his back totally curved!

ARGGGGGG I mean wtf??? I felt like grabing a barbell and wacking him hard on his spine when he was down and in that arc position.
 
For someone who realizes that trapbar deadlifting is a very productive exercise, it kinda sucks that he had no idea how to execute it.
 
yet again another fine point debaser

personally, i would use trapbar DL over any other. After reading beyond brawn i never looked back and my back never looked better :D
 
Some people just get jealous. For example, I entered the Marine Corps in 2002 at 130lbs. I started working out there to help me with my infantry training, and after 6 months of just using creatine, protein(eat as much as you want during chow :-)), and hardcore training, I put on 61 lbs(about 50lbs muscle)! I came back for christmas leave and everyone was surprised how big I was. I got the typical "what are you on" and all that. But I was with one friend when some girl mentioned how big I was, and he said "Yeah, but he has to workout all the time or else he'll lose it". The way he said it made it sound like it was a horrible thing, something he would never do. That ticked me off, because anything worth something in life you have to work hard for. Now I'm back though, and he wants me to help him design a workout routine because he saw how many compliments I'm getting! LOL! Long story short, people get jealous and don't like to listen because it makes them feel inadequate because now you are bigger and smarter(at the very least in training) than they are, and they hate it. That's just my 2 cents.
 
should've told him "doesn't matter how big or small i am. i know 15 different ways to kill a man and he doesn't even have a chance to scream."

sometimes, that really shuts people up. especially people who think Marine Corps = psychotic meathead killers.

kinda funny actually, cause i've talked to people and when they found out i was a marine (whether still in or had gotten out), i'd usually start to feel they were throwing more respect my way. there were even times that someone would say "aren't you kind of small to be a Marine? like, aren't the marines really big muscle loaded guys?" w/out fail, everytime i heard that, i never had to respond. someone involved in the conversation would say "he doesn't have to be big, this guy has been trained to kill people with his bare hands! size really doesn't matter!"

those conversations were always interesting, and i'd just remain as humble as possible while nodding my head going "yeah, he's right."

Gobus, you entered the Marine Corps in 2002 and you're stateside? what's going on there? did you go to afghanistan or iraq? i got "lucky" and got out in march 01. don't get me wrong, i would've gone to war if asked w/out a problem. that's what i enlisted to do, serve and protect my country. guess i just lucked out and didn't have to go anywhere while i was in. guess that's what i was thinking when i enlisted....i'll go to war if i have to, but i hope that we (the armed forces) aren't needed. just like your seatbelt, you put it on in hopes you don't have to use it.
 
Yeah, I enlisted in May 2002 and was honorably discharged in May 2003. I was injured in infantry training, and both my feet shattered. My fault really, because I felt the pain in my feet but didn't tell anyone for a month, and just continued the humps and running. One morning I woke up and I couldn't stand on my feet because they were so painful. 2 MRI's and a CT Scan later, it turned out that my feet had stress fractures in them that had worsened to full blown breaks in my feet. My arches also collapsed, and the doctors said I could never do heavy impact anything on my feet again. I didn't go to the doctor because I wanted to go so badly to Iraq with my fellow Marines, and I thought I could just tough it out. The crappy thing is that the doctors said if I would've came in at the first instance of pain, they could've healed me in a couple of months and I would be there right now. Oh well, I was stupid and paid the price. On the plus side, the doctor wrote "Patient has a very high pain tolerance" on my medical chart! LOL! That's my story, and even today I still miss the Marine Corps.
 
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