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Why Americans back the war

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JAMES CARROLL
Why Americans back the war
By James Carroll, Globe Columnist | September 21, 2004

THE WAR IN IRAQ goes from worse to catastrophic. Hundreds of Iraqis were killed last week, as were two dozen US soldiers. Planned elections in January point less to democracy than civil war. Kidnapping has become a weapon of terror on the ground, matching the terror of US air attacks. An American "take-back" offensive threatens to escalate the violence immeasurably. The secretary general of the United Nations pronounced the American war illegal.

In the United States, an uneasy electorate keeps its distance from all of this. Polls show that most Americans maintain faith in the Bush administration's handling of the war, while others greet reports of the disasters more with resignation than passionate opposition. To the mounting horror of the world, the United States of America is relentlessly bringing about the systematic destruction of a small, unthreatening nation for no good reason. Why has this not gripped the conscience of this country?

The answer goes beyond Bush to the 60-year history of an accidental readiness to destroy the earth, a legacy with which we Americans have yet to reckon. The punitive terror bombing that marked the end of World War II hardly registered with us. Then we passively accepted our government's mad embrace of thermonuclear weapons. While we demonized our Soviet enemy, we hardly noticed that almost every major escalation of the arms race was initiated by our side -- a race that would still be running if Mikhail Gorbachev had not dropped out of it.

In 1968, we elected Richard Nixon to end the war in Vietnam, then blithely acquiesced when he kept it going for years more. When Ronald Reagan made a joke of wiping out Moscow, we gathered a million strong to demand a nuclear "freeze," but then accepted the promise of "reduction," and took no offense when the promise was broken.

We did not think it odd that America's immediate response to the nonviolent fall of the Berlin Wall was an invasion of Panama. We celebrated the first Gulf War uncritically, even though that display of unchecked American power made Iran and North Korea redouble efforts to build a nuclear weapon, while prompting Osama bin Laden's jihad. The Clinton administration affirmed the permanence of American nukes as a "hedge" against unnamed fears, and we accepted it. We shrugged when the US Senate refused to ratify the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, with predictable results in India and Pakistan. We bought the expansion of NATO, the abrogation of the ABM Treaty, the embrace of National Missile Defense -- all measures that inevitably pushed other nations toward defensive escalation.

The war policy of George W. Bush -- "preventive war," unilateralism, contempt for Geneva -- breaks with tradition, but there is nothing new about the American population's refusal to face what is being done in our name. This is a sad, old story. It leaves us ill-equipped to deal with a pointless, illegal war. The Bush war in Iraq, in fact, is only the latest in a chain of irresponsible acts of a warrior government, going back to the firebombing of Tokyo. In comparison to that, the fire from our helicopter gunships above the cities of Iraq this week is benign. Is that why we take no offense?

Something deeply shameful has us in its grip. We carefully nurture a spirit of detachment toward the wars we pay for. But that means we cloak ourselves in cold indifference to the unnecessary suffering of others -- even when we cause it. We don't look at any of this directly because the consequent guilt would violate our sense of ourselves as nice people. Meaning no harm, how could we inflict such harm?

In this political season, the momentous issue of American-sponsored death is an inch below the surface, not quite hidden -- making the election a matter of transcendent importance. George W. Bush is proud of the disgraceful history that has paralyzed the national conscience on the question of war. He does not recognize it for what it is -- an American Tragedy. The American tragedy. John Kerry, by contrast, is attuned to the ethical complexity of this war narrative. We see that reflected in the complexity not only of his responses, but of his character -- and no wonder it puts people off. Kerry's problem, so far unresolved, is how to tell us what we cannot bear to know about ourselves. How to tell us the truth of our great moral squandering. The truth of what we are doing today in Iraq.
 
AristotleBC said:
Can the affective terminology


oh did rush teach you that ? if it wasnt there i would stop talking about it ..but it happens to be something i care about...and other americans care too....your types days are numbered.....and until it effects you directly you can stay in your McWorld. but then you will see it more clearly im sure
 
Look - There is no place for affective speak in a serious argument, which this ought to be. The ONLY purpose of those types of passages are to evoke an emotional response, which doesn't further objectivity.

I am sure you'd agree that using emotionalism to get us into war is fallacious; using it to speak out against it is equally so.

Stick to the facts. If the case is strong, emotive terms aren't necessary anyway, and it keeps one from looking silly.
 
AristotleBC said:
Look - There is no place for affective speak in a serious argument, which this ought to be. The ONLY purpose of those types of passages are to evoke an emotional response, which doesn't further objectivity.

I am sure you'd agree that using emotionalism to get us into war is fallacious; using it to speak out against it is equally so.

Stick to the facts. If the case is strong, emotive terms aren't necessary anyway, and it keeps one from looking silly.

its cool..sorry man..this shit realy does piss me off ...all i do is research this shit (besides work)...realy... im not kidding ...and all signs point to bush = bad..and i dont want anyone to go through what im going through right now..i want everyone to get along..or at least leave each other alone...sounds cheesy ....but it aint a perfectworld ... :spin:
 
Someone enlighten me. What was the supposed reason for the war in the first place?
 
biteme said:
Someone enlighten me. What was the supposed reason for the war in the first place?

oh i dunno ....ask a republican .....they have lots of reasons to go to war apparently....multiple reasons for the same issue ..it realy is a neat-o trick
 
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PERFECTWORLD said:
oh i dunno ....

Neither do I. Bush gave Sadaam 24 hours to get out of the country or we would attack? They had weapons of mass destruction? Really, what the fuck are we doing over there? What a tragic mess.
 
AristotleBC said:
Look - There is no place for affective speak in a serious argument, which this ought to be. The ONLY purpose of those types of passages are to evoke an emotional response, which doesn't further objectivity.

I am sure you'd agree that using emotionalism to get us into war is fallacious; using it to speak out against it is equally so.

Stick to the facts. If the case is strong, emotive terms aren't necessary anyway, and it keeps one from looking silly.
perhaps the writer of the article did not intend to engage in a serious, fact based argument; rather, (s)he may have sought to offset the pro-war emotion produced by the proponents of war, using exactly the same technique

oh, and biteme, the reason you guys got into this war was to basically control parts of the middle east for your own purposes - namely oil revenue, diversion of tax payer funds to various military contractors (at a huge loss to the tax payer, but hey, certain people still get rich), and to control some middle eastern realestate so as to have a better position to influence other ME nations, namely Iran

the reason most americans support the war is even simpler...ignorance

cheers
 
the reason most americans support the war is even simpler...ignorance

cheers[/QUOTE]

The average American is quite ignorant.
 
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