who plays guitar?

[TheOak84]

how fast can you play?

ive got up to sextuplets @ 120bpm, or triplets at 240...

as for a scale, triplets at 200 bpm

im tryin to learn to shred, for those out there that can...

i have a teacher, but any tips?

i also practice legatos, arpeggios, tapping and sweep picking...

 

[pintoca]

Pek, Yarg and mrdB in 3..2..

 

[perkele]

how fast can you play?

ive got up to sextuplets @ 120bpm, or triplets at 240...

as for a scale, triplets at 200 bpm

im tryin to learn to shred, for those out there that can...

i have a teacher, but any tips?

i also practice legatos, arpeggios, tapping and sweep picking...

I've never really measured, but I should.

 

[TheOak84]

I've never really measured, but I should.

so can you shred?

what kind of exercises do you like to play?

metallica?

 

[perkele]

so can you shred?

what kind of exercises do you like to play?

metallica?

I'm the king of shredding.


No, I do all kind of excersises about hour a day, twice a week. Never done more than that. Long time ago I realized I'll never be the fastest guitarists in the world, so speed became meaningless. Clean playing and perfect timing is everything.

 

[pintoca]

I'm the king of shredding.


No, I do all kind of excersises about hour a day, twice a week. Never done more than that. Long time ago I realized I'll never be the fastest guitarists in the world, so speed became meaningless. Clean playing and perfect timing is everything.

So you sayin' you ain't the next Yngwie???

 

[perkele]

So you sayin' you ain't the next Yngwie???

yez

 

[Raptorex]

shredding is so 80s bro, listen to some Clapton and watch how he can make one note sound better than 1000.

 

[bignate73]

i play. all i do is practice scales, some chords. just recently started using a metronome to keep track of my progress.

and yes, I want to shred.

 

[Mr. dB]

I play but I suck. I don't like metal, so shredding means nothing to me.

 

[Raptorex]

seriously, listen to a lot of playing by guys like clapton, knopfler, stevie ray (3 different styles). Try to practice to their leads, you will see how sustaining notes is so important.

Even if you like metal, you will be much better (oh yeah even Page at some times is great to practice too)

 

[wootoom]

perk plays the pork swords

 

[Anadrol_king]

I flat pick blue grass, my wife as well. I been playing guitar since i was 8, I am now 40. I can play very fast.

 

[Yarg!]

i have been playing for about 1 yr 7-8 months. ive never done the metronome measure so i cant really tell you. yes i do want to shred and is somewhat decent at it. i can sweep, 3, 4,5 strings but some arpeggios incorporating all 6 are pretty fucking hard for me. especially minor or diminished arps. i basically try to learn a new song a week in progressively harder difficulty , and one scale and its respective 7 modes , its harmonic minor and minor pentatonic. the exercises are the usual chromatics, string skipping and basically run down of scales. playing scales alone is the best exercise for me. i guess to give u an idea of my level would be pretty much any song off trivium's ascendancy album from start to finish.

i havent had strings on my electric in 2 months though so i gotta go out and buy new strings. right now im broke so ...

if u want to shred i recommend u learn aeolian mode (aka minor scale), harmonic minor, phyrigian , dorian. i also recommend u learn ur arpeggios.. minors, diminished, major etc etc.

 

[JayC9]

Finger picker and strummer here.

 

[TheOak84]

seriously, listen to a lot of playing by guys like clapton, knopfler, stevie ray (3 different styles). Try to practice to their leads, you will see how sustaining notes is so important.

Even if you like metal, you will be much better (oh yeah even Page at some times is great to practice too)

i can already play all that, Vaughan, clapton, hendrix etc.

even metallica i can play, kirk hammett isnt a shredder hes a soloist...

im talkin about dragonforce, children of bodom, van halen avenged sevenfold, and even some randy rhodes shit...

 

[Mr. dB]

i can already play all that, Vaughan, clapton, hendrix etc.

even metallica i can play, kirk hammett isnt a shredder hes a soloist...

im talkin about dragonforce, children of bodom, van halen avenged sevenfold, and even some randy rhodes shit...

I know all the cowboy chords.

"Cinnamon Girl" means much more to me than "Cowboys from Hell".

 

[Raptorex]

bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

i can already play all that, Vaughan, clapton, hendrix etc.

even metallica i can play, kirk hammett isnt a shredder hes a soloist...

im talkin about dragonforce, children of bodom, van halen avenged sevenfold, and even some randy rhodes shit...

 

[Yarg!]

dude, post up a pic of u playing little wing and ur sextuplets at 120bpm and ill give you 50k karma points. but before it u gotta say "hey yarg this is for u" or something to that extent so i know its you.

 

[pintoca]

Since you are all together here, how good are the likes of Kirk Hammet ant the plethora of Metal guitarrist we have these days? Anyone that really stands over the crowd? I like how certain bands sound, but if you listen carefully you see that the guitar is basically filling the blanks and certainly does not seems (to the untrained ear) too complicated, probably because the composition as a whole is good.

 

[TheOak84]

Since you are all together here, how good are the likes of Kirk Hammet ant the plethora of Metal guitarrist we have these days? Anyone that really stands over the crowd? I like how certain bands sound, but if you listen carefully you see that the guitar is basically filling the blanks and certainly does not seems (to the untrained ear) too complicated, probably because the composition as a whole is good.

synyster gates is phenominal. avenged sevenfolds lead guitarist.

why are you laughing Mouse, those arnt impossible arists to cover...

and yarg, as soon as i get my web cam ill play some SRV, but texas flood, just because thats my favorite song

 

[TheOak84]

if u want to shred i recommend u learn aeolian mode (aka minor scale), harmonic minor, phyrigian , dorian. i also recommend u learn ur arpeggios.. minors, diminished, major etc etc.

well, im in the process of learning, lots of practice of exercises, not just scales, and yes arpeggios. using a metronome helped alot in increasing speed. and just learning new solos. i used to think metallica was hard to play, ha! they are my most favorite band, i love kirk hammett, but once you learn a bit of technique, youll find hes not that amazing. he never gets old to me

ya, i learned that like, the first week of music theory.

ive also coverd triads, 7th, 9th, 11th and 13 chords. all the inversions
how to make a dim, aug, sus, min, 9th, 11 etc from a major chord
obviously reading music, the cirlce of 5ths, the major scale and how to make that a minor, dim, sus, etc... all the modes, all the names and other misc shit.

its a pain in the ass to remember, but i take 1 hour lesson and then a 15 min refresh lesson every week.

my teacher is also my good friend, so it helps to be around him alot..

heres his myspace for those who are interested

www.myspace.com/ryanrichko

there are vids of him tearing it up on there, and also on youtube

type in ryan ruin to fine more of him

 

[Mr. dB]

and yarg, as soon as i get my web cam ill play some SRV, but texas flood, just because thats my favorite song

I used to know the guy who wrote that song, Larry "Totsy" Davis.

 

[TheOak84]

I used to know the guy who wrote that song, Larry "Totsy" Davis.

i never heard the original, im guessing its somewhat the same, with SRV's touch of madness

 

[Mr. dB]

i never heard the original, im guessing its somewhat the same, with SRV's touch of madness

Davis' version was pretty ordinary blues really. He was a local guy, been dead for over a decade now. I fergit what killed him, heart attack or stroke I'd guess, he was pretty fat.

 

[Yarg!]

Since you are all together here, how good are the likes of Kirk Hammet ant the plethora of Metal guitarrist we have these days? Anyone that really stands over the crowd? I like how certain bands sound, but if you listen carefully you see that the guitar is basically filling the blanks and certainly does not seems (to the untrained ear) too complicated, probably because the composition as a whole is good.

some of the best guys today are not as well known as kirk hammet..well not even close. guys that are fairly new would be jeff loomis from nevermore, muhamed somethingorother from necrophagist, michael alkerfeldt from opeth, chris storey from all shall perish, the guys from a7x, the guys from trivium, chris/michael amott from arch enemy, ola frenning/ peter wichers from soilwork. the most recent virtuoso would be liek rusty cooley. almost all of the melodic deathmetal /death metal guys can tear up the fret board. would the average person find their music appealing though? probably not.

 

[Mr. dB]

There's this French/Tunisian kid, Nawfel, who is pretty good.

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/ianpaicesmoke.html

 

[Mr. dB]

For the total package singer/songwriter/guitarist who is truly great at all three, it's hard to beat Richard Thompson.

 

[bignate73]

any song off trivium's ascendancy album from start to finish.

just got trivium! I'm so into it right now. good background music for while i was doing some work on the PC. heheh.

 

[Yarg!]

just got trivium! I'm so into it right now. good background music for while i was doing some work on the PC. heheh.

speaking of which i was noodling around on my acoustic last night and came up with a cool riff for ascendancy. now, i've decided im going to cover it on acoustic.. i got the chorus/intro riffs, verse riffs down for acoustic so far. it sounds like ascendancy, but totally revamped by me. ill upload an mp3 sometime in the next few days. btw my favorite song on ascendancy was the first song i learnt off that album: drowned and torn asunder .

ps. check out soilwork.

grand failure anthem
shadow child
weapon of vanity
observation slave
needlefeast!

 

[megamania500]

Guitar is dead these days. The music scene will never see another guitar god as big as Hendrix, Page, or Van Halen. It seems like Slash was the last big super-famous guitarist; everyone knew who he was whether they were rock fans or not.

That still doesn't stop me from playing, though. I've been playing for 19 years now, with Tony Iommi and all his moans, crunches, roars, and groans he created on his guitar for Black Sabbath my biggest influence.

 

[RADAR]

I've played since i was 12, i have been in the bands crossroads(chistian) lightfoot (hard rock),Skeleton Crew (heavy metal)the nightlite band(show/dance 60's 60's music) Junior and the southen boys (country)THen Prism after that i retired, I play mainly Lead guitar,however i played various instruments for what the song called for, my fav guitar is my custom made left handed Les Paul Gibson,Sax, Trumpet,Bass,Drums,flute,clarinet...etc.
I have a knack for music!

RADAR

 

[Mr. dB]

Left handed? Lefties should have all been taken out and drowned at birth.





Just kidding, of course. My brother was left handed, so I have a lifetime of experience abusing southpaws. HE should have been taken out and drowned at birth though. A pulmonary imbolism took care of that, but it was 47 years too late. Just kidding again, of course, but I wish I had the opportunity to say that to his face.

 

[TheOak84]

Guitar is dead these days. The music scene will never see another guitar god as big as Hendrix, Page, or Van Halen. It seems like Slash was the last big super-famous guitarist; everyone knew who he was whether they were rock fans or not.

QUOTE]

thats a lame/ignorant reply

 

[megamania500]

Guitar is dead these days. The music scene will never see another guitar god as big as Hendrix, Page, or Van Halen. It seems like Slash was the last big super-famous guitarist; everyone knew who he was whether they were rock fans or not.

QUOTE]

thats a lame/ignorant reply

Sorry you see it that way. Its just my reaction to the crap that the music business has been force-feeding the general public these last several years. People these days actually see lame/mediocre bands as high quality simply because they sound that way in comparison to the other crap thats out there.
I work with many college students, and many, many of them include older rock in their music collections. I think older rock is still listened to for one of two reasons: 1. its just more enjoyable to listen to than the newer rock stuff. or 2. older rock has already used the more listenable riffs, melodies, chord progressions to the extent that trying to use them these days would just make a newer band sound like its re-hashing the old stuff. Because of that, the newer bands have to try and come up with different material using the same music format.They have to go a different way in an effort to sound new. But this different way just isn't as likeable to the listener as what has been done in the past. I don't know if that makes any sense to anyone.
Put another way, many rock bands have put songs out based on the common 12 bar blues progression, while soloing in pentatonic scale over that. A band today could come out with a same type of song, but since its been overdone so many times already, it would sound re-hashed. So they need to do something different. But how can you beat 12 bar with pentatonic over it for an overall rock feel? Its been done, of course, many times. But overall, many bands these days will just get a limited following because their material wont appeal to the masses because the mass-appealing material has been used over and over for many years already.
I don't think I'm doing a good job trying to explain whats in my head regarding this.

 

[bignate73]

made sense to me.

to be honest, i was never much into classic rock until lately. i started playing about 6 months ago, and have beefed up my music collection considerably. alot of the songs are interesting, playable and recognizable. if i were to try to play trashed and scattered by A7x most people would look and go "what are you doing?" not that I do it for other people, but I like to have a variety of songs to play. plus learning alot of the earlier licks are the foundation for what is played today, so why not go to the source?

 

[TheOak84]

made sense to me.

to be honest, i was never much into classic rock until lately. i started playing about 6 months ago, and have beefed up my music collection considerably. alot of the songs are interesting, playable and recognizable. if i were to try to play trashed and scattered by A7x most people would look and go "what are you doing?" not that I do it for other people, but I like to have a variety of songs to play. plus learning alot of the earlier licks are the foundation for what is played today, so why not go to the source?

it depends on who your playing it for... id jump in and start shredding with ya!

of course most older people, depending on how much they like music/metal wont know who A7X is. is say around mid 20's and younger would know, they didnt just come out, they have 2 cds before City Of Evil. Bat Country made them famous.

i think hes one of the top guitarists of the new decade

 

[Mr. dB]

it depends on who your playing it for... id jump in and start shredding with ya!

Do you ever play, or listen to, any musical styles that don't involve shredding?

 

[pintoca]

How does Daron Malakian rate? I like them a lot, probably because they are very creative (and a bit crazy as well).

They alos hate Bush, so that helps as well

 

[TheOak84]

Do you ever play, or listen to, any musical styles that don't involve shredding?

I did say stevie ray vaughan, didnt I?

i also play jazz guitar, and classical piano, well, on my Midi controller.

is there anything wrong with shred guitar?

while it does take alot of practice, its really simple. you can make it sound amazing, but shredding through a simple major scale will blow someones mind away to an unexperienced musician

 

[Mr. dB]

is there anything wrong with shred guitar?

I suppose not, except that it doesn't fit every song.

Kind of like slap funk bass. There are some guys who just try to cram it in wherever they can, whether it fits or not. You know the old story about how if your only tool is a hammer, then all challenges look like nails?

 

[TheOak84]

I suppose not, except that it doesn't fit every song.

Kind of like slap funk bass. There are some guys who just try to cram it in wherever they can, whether it fits or not. You know the old story about how if your only tool is a hammer, then all challenges look like nails?

never heard of that anology.

i like shred guitar, but tasteful... im sure there are dozens of bands that use it that i dont like.

metallica is my favorite band, and theres really no shredding in there. i do like dream theater, and there is a shred solo in almost everysong. i only like a few songs btw.

i think i like playing it more then i like hearing it. i like Waking the Fallen, the 2nd a7x album, again very minimal shred, i think one song has a shred solo.

i love shred, but i dont like to abuse it

 

[bignate73]

this is excessive and abusive shredding IMO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic7cOJXZUEo

 

[Yarg!]

this is excessive and abusive shredding IMO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic7cOJXZUEo

WTF WAS THAT?! thats only the worst case of guitar wankage ive EVER heard! (AND I WENT TO AN YNGWIE CONCERT!)

 

[bignate73]

see? I told you....

 

[TheOak84]

that was a good shred solo, i cant use the whole fretboard like that yet, im not comfortable or have that much control, im sure that comes with time.

personally, id NEVER bust that out in a song. but id play like that just for the shit of it.

i dont really like that neo classical sound, its alot of stretching and string skipping.

i like to shred in the harmonic minor or pentatonic scale. sound is everything to a player (duh)

its easy to shred with out a background rhythm, but id like to join a band so i can make up some nice solos. like One, or Master. the interlude is so basic when you break the notes down but sounds fantastic. thats the kind of music i wanna make

 

[perkele]

this is excessive and abusive shredding IMO...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic7cOJXZUEo

Someday he's gonna be as fast as Perk. lol

 

[perkele]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEZrB_FDw4c

This trio out plays Satriani's G3 any given day.

 

[TheOak84]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEZrB_FDw4c

This trio out plays Satriani's G3 any given day.

nah

 

[perkele]

nah

Yes they would.

 

[Yarg!]

theyre basically shred wanking... only on acoustics.

 

[perkele]

theyre basically shred wanking... only on acoustics.

They do have speed when they want to flash it.

 

[ZKaudio]

writing songs is the true test. Getting into playing fast, esp shredding, is like a bottomless pit of creativity loss. You become obsessed on a low level, and you get shred dismorphia where you never think you're playign as fast as somenoe else but in reality you are playing even faster.

I say...Music first, then shredding... I can't count the numbers of bands who have come to me for advice, and they are ALL super talented, except for in the songwriting domain... they can't write shit. In the end it's all about melody, yes even in death/speed metal.

 

[zephyr_words]

I play bass guitar.

I'm a big Victor Wooten\Flea\Jaco\Inspired player...been playing for about 8 years now and have done some big shows. Don't play as much as I would like to anymore...stupid work and stuff