Who here has done short blast cycles?

[Power36]

I did prolotherapy 12 years ago and hurt like a MFer...not sure it helped...but I think my doc was a quack....

Do you take fish oil? Im taking 15-25g a day...its a miracle worker for a host of issues, including reducing inflammation.

If you need to, start with foam rollers, work up to stiffer ones, and then work onto PVC. Also, either using the floor or a wall, try out tennis balls, golf balls, LAX balls, etc. Work around the shoulder and opposing muscles too, hit the pecs, lats, all around the hurting joint and stretch to tolerance...

Stuff costs a ton...but if you can find a good progressive PT they might have ways of doing things, or a good ART guy....needling has worked for many friends of mine if its allowed in your state....and the traditional stuff stim, TEMs, ultra sound, ICE, resting and laying off which I know is hard to do.....ever do cortisone injections? If you do, allow it to rest and lay off it for a while....its worked for me in the past...

Im burned out but will think more of other stuff I do for nagging injuries....deep tissue work for sure works miracles, as does rest and ice...and the right PT who knows how to do stability work without nagging it more....

So your ACL and meniscus are torn right now too?!?!?!?

I have a phone book list of injuries, but am thankful, truly thankful to God everyday I can still train...Ive been banged up, nearly killed, and shit hurts every day and some weeks or months I gotta quit training certain movements all together, but thank God Ive always been able to get back under a barbell in the rack or yank some heavy stuff on the platform


Shave??!? Me?? haha...Im an old school football, MMA, powerlifting and olympic lifting dude...never have shaved a thing...damn would be a lot of work, Im a hairy caveman bastard!

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I did prolotherapy 12 years ago and hurt like a MFer...not sure it helped...but I think my doc was a quack....

Do you take fish oil? Im taking 15-25g a day...its a miracle worker for a host of issues, including reducing inflammation.

If you need to, start with foam rollers, work up to stiffer ones, and then work onto PVC. Also, either using the floor or a wall, try out tennis balls, golf balls, LAX balls, etc. Work around the shoulder and opposing muscles too, hit the pecs, lats, all around the hurting joint and stretch to tolerance...

Stuff costs a ton...but if you can find a good progressive PT they might have ways of doing things, or a good ART guy....needling has worked for many friends of mine if its allowed in your state....and the traditional stuff stim, TEMs, ultra sound, ICE, resting and laying off which I know is hard to do.....ever do cortisone injections? If you do, allow it to rest and lay off it for a while....its worked for me in the past...

Im burned out but will think more of other stuff I do for nagging injuries....deep tissue work for sure works miracles, as does rest and ice...and the right PT who knows how to do stability work without nagging it more....

So your ACL and meniscus are torn right now too?!?!?!?

I have a phone book list of injuries, but am thankful, truly thankful to God everyday I can still train...Ive been banged up, nearly killed, and shit hurts every day and some weeks or months I gotta quit training certain movements all together, but thank God Ive always been able to get back under a barbell in the rack or yank some heavy stuff on the platform


Shave??!? Me?? haha...Im an old school football, MMA, powerlifting and olympic lifting dude...never have shaved a thing...damn would be a lot of work, Im a hairy caveman bastard!

Your muscles will look twice as large if you shave bro


Yes the ACL and meniscus(same knee) are torn. Have been for almost 20 years. Knew the meniscus was torn but it was minor. Didnt find out about the ACL til I went for a comparison MRI after tearing the medial meniscus in my right knee really bad in Pro wrestling. When my ortho checked my left knee he went whoa....this things moves too much lets MRI it. Comes back...err....you have a completely torn and wasted ACL in your left knee!! My legs being so massive (they were 28" cold then) my whole life has kept everything in check without issue. He was amazed.

I actually go once a week to the best Chiro/PT/ART guy for anything athletic in our area. He himself is a huge power lifter so he gets us meat heads. He has helped immensely in the last few months.
My prolo doc is also the shit. This guy is a fucking genius in my book. If it werent for him I wouldnt be training. Prolo has done wonders for me. Cortisone I am opposed to. Just a band aid IMHO. The only cortisone I allowed was in both shoulders under muscle but not in the joint to diagnose if it were joint/bone issues or connective tissue. I felt great for 2 days then I felt like I just came off a week long bender of vicodin and booze.

 

[broski87]

I was living in a sober house for alcohol and recreational drug reasons a year ago and I had some hcg and peptides in the house fridge. I just kept in a greek yogurt container either that or wrapped in tinfoil and put with box of butter. There is lots of ways.. Is it worth the risk.. Would they go through your food?

 

[ALIN]

I love the shorther acting AAS drugs but I still find even with those my best results are minimum of 8-10 weeks.

 

[Texas Monster]

Maybe I will just run an awesome hybrid cycle.

First 4 weeks incorporate some suspension in there and just run a sick 8-10 week prop cycle.

 

[Power36]

Sounds like you got your bases covered. Sounds like a rare but amazing snag on the PT/ART/Chiro who is a PL.

Yea lifting can do amazing things and stabilize joints (all that squatting is bad for knees is BS, you are perfect example maybe leg lifting kept you going all these years).

I did the cortizone when I had such severe pain from heavy sprinting, MMA, and back when I still did very heavy snatches, cleans, jerks, and push press...once they realized my tendons were detached and all the other damage I had, they said might as well try it cant make it worse....so it worked for me back then....otherwise when the shoulder does hurt it means backing off for months, and the oddest things can make it hurt...other times I can bench 375 for a single or shits and giggles rep 225 for 23-25 and no issues...other times if its not feeling good I cant do pushups!

Game plan on the knee? Just keep trucking? Or get cut at some point?

Ok ok maybe one of these years Ill shave haha....didnt know it made you look twice as big! haha

Your muscles will look twice as large if you shave bro


Yes the ACL and meniscus(same knee) are torn. Have been for almost 20 years. Knew the meniscus was torn but it was minor. Didnt find out about the ACL til I went for a comparison MRI after tearing the medial meniscus in my right knee really bad in Pro wrestling. When my ortho checked my left knee he went whoa....this things moves too much lets MRI it. Comes back...err....you have a completely torn and wasted ACL in your left knee!! My legs being so massive (they were 28" cold then) my whole life has kept everything in check without issue. He was amazed.

I actually go once a week to the best Chiro/PT/ART guy for anything athletic in our area. He himself is a huge power lifter so he gets us meat heads. He has helped immensely in the last few months.
My prolo doc is also the shit. This guy is a fucking genius in my book. If it werent for him I wouldnt be training. Prolo has done wonders for me. Cortisone I am opposed to. Just a band aid IMHO. The only cortisone I allowed was in both shoulders under muscle but not in the joint to diagnose if it were joint/bone issues or connective tissue. I felt great for 2 days then I felt like I just came off a week long bender of vicodin and booze.

 

[Power36]

I want to do an 8 weeker with fast acting ones starting Jan or Feb.....then do a long haul one in summer...

Maybe
test prop 300mg week
Mast prop 450mg week
tren 225mg week
Var 50mg-75mg daily (or tbol?)

Or test prop 300mg week
Mast prop 450mg week
Primo 300mg week (is it worth it in short cycle?)
Halo (??? dose and weeks not sure)

Also curious about NPP for short cycles...

Suspension sounds scary hahah

 

[Texas Monster]

I want to do an 8 weeker with fast acting ones starting Jan or Feb.....then do a long haul one in summer...

Maybe
test prop 300mg week
Mast prop 450mg week
tren 225mg week
Var 50mg-75mg daily (or tbol?)

Or test prop 300mg week
Mast prop 450mg week
Primo 300mg week (is it worth it in short cycle?)
Halo (??? dose and weeks not sure)

Also curious about NPP for short cycles...

Suspension sounds scary hahah

Def dont run the test prop that high. Mast prop is just about right.

Would through in NPP at higher dose than test and lay it out something like this in my case.

Week 1-10 Test p 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Npp 200mg eod
Week 1-4 Test supsension 50-100mg ed pre workout
Week 5-10 Anavar 80mg
Week 1-10 Mast p 150mg eod

 

[Power36]

Def dont run the test prop that high. Mast prop is just about right.

Would through in NPP at higher dose than test and lay it out something like this in my case.

Week 1-10 Test p 100mg eod
Week 1-8 Npp 200mg eod
Week 1-4 Test supsension 50-100mg ed pre workout
Week 5-10 Anavar 80mg
Week 1-10 Mast p 150mg eod

Wouldnt 300mg week be similar to you doing 100mg EOD?

Im on 200mg T Cyp week for HRT...would I see a difference changing to Test Prop for 8-10 weeks?

Im all ears, the less juice the better, less pinning and less cost! ha

Are you considering NPP too? Would you do that over Tren?

Im all about getting leaner....never done clen or other stuff to drop BF, because I am also about being healthy so that stuff makes me weary. Im not 20 years old anymore and bulletproof! haha

Is that Test Suspension gonna hurt like hell, and its like you inject it and then feel an immediate boost for workout?!?! Cool!

 

[Texas Monster]

Wouldnt 300mg week be similar to you doing 100mg EOD?

Im on 200mg T Cyp week for HRT...would I see a difference changing to Test Prop for 8-10 weeks?

Im all ears, the less juice the better, less pinning and less cost! ha

Are you considering NPP too? Would you do that over Tren?

Im all about getting leaner....never done clen or other stuff to drop BF, because I am also about being healthy so that stuff makes me weary. Im not 20 years old anymore and bulletproof! haha

Is that Test Suspension gonna hurt like hell, and its like you inject it and then feel an immediate boost for workout?!?! Cool!

OOPS I feel Like a tard. I thought it said 300mg eod which would be insane.

350 mg a week is perfect. That comes out to 100mg eod. I like pinning eod with prop or ace.

Do not do clen that shit will destroy your heart.

It depends on which cycle I have ran previously. If I ran tren in the previous cycle then I would opt for NPP.

IMO and from experience I react the best with the least amount of sides with the best keepable gains from.

Nandralone
Test
Winny
Mast
Var

Tren is to be used very sparingly in cycling. I am actually trying to get away from using that stuff and just sticking to the list I laid out above.

It is all about finding the compounds and cycles that work for you.