Who here has done short blast cycles?

[Power36]

Only stuff I have really tried is Primo and Mast, and its been wonderful. I think first time around I didnt take in enough protein, didnt use much, and didnt run it long...so I didnt feel like it did much...this last time upping my protein, going over 8 weeks, and doing 400mg of each felt wonderful. I imagine doing 16 weeks like people say would be fantastic. I dont want anymore size, I dont want serious health risks, and I love recovery. If anything I like being able to workout more and recover and would love to shed some pounds or drop BF%. Var has been good to me as well, but think Ive only tried it at 50mg a few times too.

My first HRT doc gave me Deca 100 or 200mg week for 8 weeks for joints....not sure if I felt much from it. But if its true it helps joints I will want to try it again. If NPP does the same but is faster acting maybe I should try it with Prop and Mast for an 8 week blast and throw some Var or Tbol on top of it.

Winny I did for a few weeks, I think it worked well and I liked it...but all the horror stories of it maybe causing more soft tissue tears or the wrong kind of collagen forming scares me off from wanting to do it again. I have always been a muscle ripping and ligament/tendon popping nightmare, so do not want to increase that chance (which is another reason Im scared to try higher dose cycles or the compounds that make people blow up fast).

So maybe:
350mg test prop week
450mg mast prop per week
600mg week NPP (gosh that sounds high???) or 225mg week Tren
80mg week Var or ??mg week Tbol or ??? winny?

This is daydreaming stress relief haha..who knew as an adult I would end up distracting myself by daydreaming about juice cycles to relax a few times a day hah

 

[sanfrandan]

[=Power36;14347693]
This is daydreaming stress relief haha..who knew as an adult I would end up distracting myself by daydreaming about juice cycles to relax a few times a day hah[/QUOTE]
Ha- Wait until your 55! LMFAO

 

[Power36]

Haha....well gives me nearly 15 more years of enjoyment to look forward to!!1

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Sounds like you got your bases covered. Sounds like a rare but amazing snag on the PT/ART/Chiro who is a PL.

Yea lifting can do amazing things and stabilize joints (all that squatting is bad for knees is BS, you are perfect example maybe leg lifting kept you going all these years).

I did the cortizone when I had such severe pain from heavy sprinting, MMA, and back when I still did very heavy snatches, cleans, jerks, and push press...once they realized my tendons were detached and all the other damage I had, they said might as well try it cant make it worse....so it worked for me back then....otherwise when the shoulder does hurt it means backing off for months, and the oddest things can make it hurt...other times I can bench 375 for a single or shits and giggles rep 225 for 23-25 and no issues...other times if its not feeling good I cant do pushups!

Game plan on the knee? Just keep trucking? Or get cut at some point?

Ok ok maybe one of these years Ill shave haha....didnt know it made you look twice as big! haha

Yeah my PT is an amazing guy. Either this winter or next winter I'm going to get reconstruction done and my meniscus trimmed out on the knee. It's been very good for a long time buy its starting to become more of something I'm having to be cautious of. Even jumping down off my truck tailgate I now stop, put my hand down and jump easy.
Yeah bro.....if you shave and especially tanned, you would look completely different and way bigger.

I like short esters too. But mast @150 and prop and npp especially at 200.....goddamn that's a LOT of pinning. 4.5 ml !!!!! If you go that route I would pin ED so you can do smaller injections in more places.

 

[Power36]

Hmmmm....is 3mL the biggest syringes there are? Yea if I could fit everything in 3cc for M/W/F pinning that would be preferred, and take an oral maybe. Ive never done anything fast acting so this would be my first go around at it...maybe I wouldnt need alot? Maybe test prop 100 (1cc?), mast prop 150 (1.5cc) and Tren 75mg (.5cc) is a way to max the 3cc syringe for EOD pinning? Then take an oral, Var, Winny, or tbol?

Maybe if this short blast makes me feel more "ripped" or in the summer doing Primo and EQ and getting back to multiple training sessions a day which leans me out, Ill go crazy and shave, and get tanned by just going outside more! I do live near the beach so when I have time getting a tan isnt too hard.

Good luck with the surgeries when you do it, if your chiro knows a good surgeon maybe you are good to go! Not good if jumping off the tailgate is hurting and gotta slow down...Ive known guys who get knee surgeries and rehab right (which you got covered with your PT), supplement, eat right, and do all the proper ice and treatment stuff at home, start training earlier than most docs suggest, and come back on fire...

 

[ballslee]

They make 5CC syringes, but what I like to do is split up the dosage. I would just do 2 shots each day.

I had some test that would swell up everywhere except the glutes, and had to change my injections because of it.
So i started doing test in one, and 1 or 2 other compounds in another shot.
Please never do a 4.5ml shot, if you survive that shit you wont be able to move that body part for the better part of a week.
if you result to doing 3CC shots, then please make sure you work the muscle up to being capable of handling it. If the most you have done in one muscle is 1.5CC then I would say dont go above 2CC the next time, at the most 2.5CC (next time meaning next cycle). It doesn't matter how big your muscles are, if they have not experienced and become accustomed to larger shots, then you will severely regret it.

power36 i would run the npp at 100EOD in that cycle, no need to go to 200EOD when you have not ran it yet.

 

[ballslee]

Texas Monster have you considered doing injectable winny on these blasts?
I think 4-6 weeks would be perfect for it, and you could minimize joint pain by cycling it shorter time.

You could do winny inject, test suspension, and like a Dbol or Tbol oral and make sure you have a bunch of liver supps and dont drink at all.
I have always wanted to try the Winny 100mg EOD because some people make the inject at that strength.

 

[Texas Monster]

Texas Monster have you considered doing injectable winny on these blasts?
I think 4-6 weeks would be perfect for it, and you could minimize joint pain by cycling it shorter time.

You could do winny inject, test suspension, and like a Dbol or Tbol oral and make sure you have a bunch of liver supps and dont drink at all.
I have always wanted to try the Winny 100mg EOD because some people make the inject at that strength.

I have plenty of experience with winny.

As far as inject I prefer the oral because it is easier to dose lower if I need to. And since it is still 17-a it effects your liver so why not just take it orally.

And When I have taken winny I haver never once experienced joint pain at all. This is probably because I take in a lot of omega 3s and stay plenty hydrated.

And I Run winny for 6 weeks and that is it. No more no less that is the sweet spot.

 

[ballslee]

well I feel that I get different effects from the oral vs the inject. I know they are both 17A, but it was just a thought. But if i am not mistaken, the injectable only has to survive the first pass of the liver, and the oral has to go through 2 passes. So in that way, it is lighter than the oral on the liver.
also, the injectable version is absorbed better by the body...the oral version going through 2 liver passes is reduced and partially destroyed.
(this is the least knowledgeable post i have posted on this site, but from what i remember i believe it is correct)

 

[Power36]

thanks friend, solid advice...I worked up to 3cc shots before, Primo 2cc and Mast 1cc, and pinned my .5cc test in a quad with 29g....so ill blast this with 3cc EOD in glutes and keep doing my GH in quads IM...

So this might be good blast for me according to your guys blended advice EOD injects:
1cc Test Prop
1cc NPP
1cc Mast

If I need to bump up the Mast I will add it in a quad shot.

What oral would you guys thing in this blast? Halo, Tbol, Var, or Winny?

Ill be doing heavy olympic lifting and possibly MMA and sprint training...or maybe just lots of lifting for the blast period

They make 5CC syringes, but what I like to do is split up the dosage. I would just do 2 shots each day.

I had some test that would swell up everywhere except the glutes, and had to change my injections because of it.
So i started doing test in one, and 1 or 2 other compounds in another shot.
Please never do a 4.5ml shot, if you survive that shit you wont be able to move that body part for the better part of a week.
if you result to doing 3CC shots, then please make sure you work the muscle up to being capable of handling it. If the most you have done in one muscle is 1.5CC then I would say dont go above 2CC the next time, at the most 2.5CC (next time meaning next cycle). It doesn't matter how big your muscles are, if they have not experienced and become accustomed to larger shots, then you will severely regret it.

power36 i would run the npp at 100EOD in that cycle, no need to go to 200EOD when you have not ran it yet.