WHO CAN POST A SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION TO NO DECA & FINASTERIDE MIXES??

[imortal]

Generic thanks...

Would i be correct in this hypothesis then.

Finasteride is not a wise choice to be partnered with nandrolone simply because it will block the conversion to DHN and excess nandrolone unconverted will wreak havoc on the hairline when not converted to DHN.

However is this not a catch22 when a test of sorts is thrown into the mix?
Finasteride will stop the test from converting to DHT and thus being helpful to the hairline , but at the same time if it were not used the conversion to DHT that is now unhindered will cause shedding?

So either way with a test/deca cycle you will shed.
Either block the test-DHT conversion with finasteride but let the deca not convert to DHN and suffer the unaltered nandrolone attack or vive versa?

Am i wrong?

 

[geoboy]

Would i be correct in this hypothesis then.
Finasteride is not a wise choice to be partnered with nandrolone simply because it will block the conversion to DHN and excess nandrolone unconverted will wreak havoc on the hairline when not converted to DHN.

Correct.

However is this not a catch22 when a test of sorts is thrown into the mix?
Finasteride will stop the test from converting to DHT and thus being helpful to the hairline , but at the same time if it were not used the conversion to DHT that is now unhindered will cause shedding?

Only if you were using finasteride before the test/deca cycle. assuming you are not currently using finasteride, and assuming you're only going to use replacement dose of test (150-200mg ew), the shedding won't be any worse, and in fact might be less, because the stubborn & hair-harmless dtn might preferentially bind to the shared dht/dhn receptors in hair follicles (this is my speculation based on my nandrolone experience)
for hair-sensitive types, stick with var, eq, deca, npp, and replacement doses of test.

 

[DIVISION]

Sorry division my bro , lost the boat there!

Thought you were saying "genetic" meaning if MPB is in the genes im fucked either way

ha ha

It's all good, bro.

DIV

 

[slash747]

Im currently on 200mg of NPP Deca E3d, 600 or 750mg of Orbit EQ ( not sure if my batch is underdosed, im taking 3cc either way ), and Var 50mg .

Im also on 2.5mg Finasteride/day have been for a while. I started last friday, and took my second shot of NPP last tuesday. Aside from having a crazy appetitie and some crazy light headedness, no hair loss as of yet. Since its NPP I will just drop it at the first case of problems, which is usually a very itchy head, followed by excessive shedding.

 

[BD100]

Good thread, I've been curious about this as well.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

as a note

finasteride reduces activity of 5alpha reductase (not aromatase)

 

[Big Rick Rock]

If you are doing a Testosterone / Deca cycle there are two things going on as far as DHT / DHN and hair is concerned.

1- The Nandrolone will take up most of the 5alpha's activity being turned to DHN thus fewer testosterone is converted to DHT.
2- The DHN being a much weaker androgen than DHT will have less effect on the receptors in your hair follicles AND will also act to block some of the DHT out of some of those receptors.

I heard this from a good source

 

[Generic MALE]

as a note

finasteride reduces activity of 5alpha reductase (not aromatase)

You are right, my bad. Thanks for catching that macro. I meant 5 alpha reductase. Aromatase converts testo to estrogen. Good call.

 

[Generic MALE]

1- The Nandrolone will take up most of the 5alpha's activity being turned to DHN thus fewer testosterone is converted to DHT.

I will do some digging on this but I doubt this is the case because enzymes are not static they are dynamic. Their quanitity in the body can increase or decrease. So its possible the body could just produce more 5 alpha reducatase, making plenty to go around - and do a number on both nandrolone AND testo. This is the case with the other enzyme, previously mentioned in error - certain foods will raise and lower the levels of aromatase in our body, and our aromatase will increase when certain anabolic aids are introduced - for example our levels of aromatase go up when we take testosterone, but very slightly with anavar - in essence our body can make as much of it as it wants or needs. When we take arimidex which blocks aromatase, our body makes more aromatase. So i am sure if all the 5 alpha reductase was being used up by the nandrolone, it would make more to work on the testo.

But testo is more androgenic than deca I believe but less than DHT, so I think if you are worried about hair loss finesteride would be good to take with a combo of deca and testo because - if you prevent the conversion to the dihydro you are left with testo and deca which are less hair damaging than DHT.

DHT>testo>deca>DHN = hair loss.

Having testo and deca in your system would be better than DHT.

But progesterone might be of help(as mentioned in the Dr.Lee article above) and I think anabolicfitness has a P7 formula with either progesterone.

 

[imortal]

Quote"But testo is more androgenic than deca I believe but less than DHT, so I think if you are worried about hair loss finesteride would be good to take with a combo of deca and testo because - if you prevent the conversion to the dihydro you are left with testo and deca which are less hair damaging than DHT."Unquote

Ok GENERIC i c the point here but , but the article mentions enzymes as having active not static qualities so surely the use of finasteride will work to a degree yes , but enzyme duplication will occur as soon as the body reacts to tests and nandrolone levels reaching a state where they need to be broken into DHT/DHN!

Now we have a whole bunch of 5ar activity (more than if finasteride was not used , causing large increases in scalp irritation!