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WHO CAN POST A SCIENTIFIC EXPLANATION TO NO DECA & FINASTERIDE MIXES??

If you're taking Deca by it's own, maybe don't take Finasteride. If you are taking Deca along with Test, I would suggest Finasteride. BTW: I took Finasteride AND dutasteride WITH tren and didn't experience any unusual hairloss.
 
Basically, by preventing the conversion of nandrolone to DHN, you are left with a more potent androgen.

Nandrolone itself exhibits a higher degree of binding activity to the androgen receptor, similar to DHT, than testosterone does. Androgenetic alopecia is induced by activation of follicular androgen receptors.

Jenetic
 
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Jenetic said:
Basically, by preventing the conversion of nandrolone to DHN, you are left with a more potent androgen.

Nandrolone itself exhibits a higher degree of binding activity to the androgen receptor, similar to DHT, than testosterone does. Androgenetic alopecia is induced by activation of follicular androgen receptors.

Jenetic

I will take your word that nan has a stronger binding affinity for the receptor than testo, but that does not mean it exerts a stronger effect. Many drugs with a weak binding affinity exert stronger effects, and vice versa - for example nolva binds stronger to estrogen receptors than estrogen, but exerts a weaker effect-nolva competitively outbinds estrogen, but exerts less estrogenic effect thereby preventing stimulation of the estrogen receptor - that is a crude explanation but hopefully it gets the idea across. It was my understanding that nan exerts a weaker effect

What is most peoples experience with Deca (I have never used it) - does it cause more significant hair loss?

Of course everyone differs and some people react strongly to different things - but overall, does nan cause more hair loss than testo in real life?
 
Nandrolone does exert a weaker effect on the scalp as long as you allow it to convert to DHN.
 
1000 000 Karma points to someone that develops a set of compounds that select only the androgen they were designed to stop the breakdown of!

ie.

Propeciadec
Propeciatest
propeciastanozol

Etc , you get my drift!
 
Genetic i see your point , but:

Yeah nandrolone in its unaltered state may be a stronger androgen with superior binding activity than test but if the finasteride was not used then the excess test would be broken into DHT which is slightly stronger than nandrolone(example in your post), and the nandrolone would become less harmfull DHN.

So now instead of the unwanted nandrolone strength we would have an unwanted DHN strength.

A catch 22 in my books chief!

That said , if we really wanted to clutch at straws , the finasreride use option would just come out the victor - If we are correct in assuming that DHT is slightly stronger in action than unaltered nandrolone!
 
imortal said:
Genetic i see your point , but:

Yeah nandrolone in its unaltered state may be a stronger androgen with superior binding activity than test but if the finasteride was not used then the excess test would be broken into DHT which is slightly stronger than nandrolone(example in your post), and the nandrolone would become less harmfull DHN.

So now instead of the unwanted nandrolone strength we would have an unwanted DHN strength.

A catch 22 in my books chief!

That said , if we really wanted to clutch at straws , the finasreride use option would just come out the victor - If we are correct in assuming that DHT is slightly stronger in action than unaltered nandrolone!

Once again, androgenetic alopecia is caused by the activation of folicular androgen receptors. I don't think you realize that it does not necessarily have to be DHN or DHT in order for this to occur. Your example still results in elevated concentration of androgens in your system.

I think you guys are losing focus in regards to the original question to nandrolone.

The whole point is to avoid, if possible, combining finasteride with nandrolones. There are more people who have had a negative experience than a positive one. Instead of making a comment about the combination of testosterone and nandrolone with finasteride being a better idea, you should realize that testosterone with equipoise along with finasteride would be a far better option and yeild similar results with less side effects.

Unfortunately, you do not see my point or understand exactly what is taking place. Be my guest, find out the hard way and try it for yourself. Maybe it won't happen, maybe it will. Sometimes we have to learn from our mistakes/experiences to fully understand what is happening. I was only trying to offer a logical explanation.

Jenetic
 
imortal said:
Genetic i see your point , but:

Yeah nandrolone in its unaltered state may be a stronger androgen with superior binding activity than test but if the finasteride was not used then the excess test would be broken into DHT which is slightly stronger than nandrolone(example in your post), and the nandrolone would become less harmfull DHN.

So now instead of the unwanted nandrolone strength we would have an unwanted DHN strength.

A catch 22 in my books chief!

That said , if we really wanted to clutch at straws , the finasreride use option would just come out the victor - If we are correct in assuming that DHT is slightly stronger in action than unaltered nandrolone!


Go back one page to my post about this... I may be right, or I may be wrong...
 
Your point is understood and your feedback appreciated Genetic.
Funny you mentioned EQ as i dropped the nandrolone and started EQ today in its place. In 2 weeks i will reintroduce the finesteride so as to minimize interaction with remaining nandrolone activity.

I feel this arguement or debate for a better word, yields valid points from both sides and as i stated , when one is using both nandrolone and a test i feel that it is slightly better to utilise finesteride as ultimately the most destructive force regarding our mpb issue is DHT!

Later

I.
 
imortal said:
I feel this arguement or debate for a better word, yields valid points from both sides and as i stated , when one is using both nandrolone and a test i feel that it is slightly better to utilise finesteride as ultimately the most destructive force regarding our mpb issue is DHT!

on behalf of big ric and jenetic, I commend to you the Ed Koch quote in my signature.

:rolleyes: :happyscra

peace out.

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