Which was a bigger tragedy?

[hotzie]

you forgot wootooms birth.

 

[Lestat]

i would assume gov't monies given to katrina victims doubled what was given to 9/11 victims

that is extremely sad. It should be at least proportional to the number of people affected, if not MORE for Katrina since it literally destoyed every earthly posession that many of these people had.

 

[Gambino]

that is extremely sad. It should be at least proportional to the number of people affected, if not MORE for Katrina since it literally destoyed every earthly posession that many of these people had.

so do you, brian lestat, feel obligated to help?
if so then donate time and/or money

i totally guessed on the gov't monies...i could be way off

I'm not as generous and feel little obligation
i doubt the majority of those folks would do shit for me if
lake superior flooded my home. and i don't expect them to.
and that's why one has a savings and stock portfilio (sp), too handle business when things go bad

 

[Lestat]

so do you, brian lestat, feel obligated to help?
if so then donate time and/or money

i totally guessed on the gov't monies...i could be way off

I'm not as generous and feel little obligation
i doubt the majority of those folks would do shit for me if
lake superior flooded my home. and i don't expect them to.
and that's why one has a savings and stock portfilio (sp), too handle business when things go bad

lmao. bro, how many of the katrina victims do you think had a stock portfolio?

Would they do shit for you? probably not.

we're talking about poor people man.

I helped in a very small way for both 9/11 and katrina, i wish I could take the 9/11 money back though and give it to katrina. Its events like that which really expose the dirty underbelly of this country. As time goes on it becomes more and more apparent how people really don't give a shit about the poor in this country, people somehow think it is just their own fault.

I am where I am today because I was born into a white, middle class, christian family. The road was paved for me to succeed in high school, and then college, and now my career. I'm not so naieve and ignorant to think that EVERYONE has the same opportunities afforded to me. I didn't have the same opportunities as Warren Buffets children, the New Orleans population in general doesn't have a 10th of the means that you or I have.

I'm not saying people need hand outs either, but if we are giving them out, at least give them out fairly and to those who have REAL NEED.

You are telling me that a woman who lost her husband in the trade centers needs a couple of million dollars to live the rest of her life, yet there are people in katrina that couldn't even qualify for the $2000 ATM card! Its pathetic and makes me ashamed of my countrymen.

 

[perkele]

Fucking Rwanda gets my vote!

 

[hotzie]

9/11 was a lot worse of a tragedy. katrina could have been prevented.

 

[Gambino]

lmao. bro, how many of the katrina victims do you think had a stock portfolio?

Would they do shit for you? probably not.

we're talking about poor people man.

I helped in a very small way for both 9/11 and katrina, i wish I could take the 9/11 money back though and give it to katrina. Its events like that which really expose the dirty underbelly of this country. As time goes on it becomes more and more apparent how people really don't give a shit about the poor in this country, people somehow think it is just their own fault.

I am where I am today because I was born into a white, middle class, christian family. The road was paved for me to succeed in high school, and then college, and now my career. I'm not so naieve and ignorant to think that EVERYONE has the same opportunities afforded to me. I didn't have the same opportunities as Warren Buffets children, the New Orleans population in general doesn't have a 10th of the means that you or I have.

I'm not saying people need hand outs either, but if we are giving them out, at least give them out fairly and to those who have REAL NEED.

You are telling me that a woman who lost her husband in the trade centers needs a couple of million dollars to live the rest of her life, yet there are people in katrina that couldn't even qualify for the $2000 ATM card! Its pathetic and makes me ashamed of my countrymen.

it is fucked up, the cash value of a life/soul
it is also fucked up how much white guilt you have over being successful.
maybe you should donate more money, stop living such an exciting life, because you appear to feel real guilty about it

 

[Lestat]

it is fucked up, the cash value of a life/soul
it is also fucked up how much white guilt you have over being successful.
maybe you should donate more money, stop living such an exciting life, because you appear to feel real guilty about it

I'm not guitly about it at all. It disgusts me when an employer complains that they have to pay their janitors minimum wage and health benefits.

Much like religion, this was an area in which I was once truly naieve. I thought that all you had to do was work hard, go to college, and life turned out great. That is true, but what about those that will never have a shot at going to college? We still use them to clean our restrooms, take out a trash, wash our car, pick our fruit, yet we can't make sure that they are taken care of as human beings?

 

[rocky_road]

Great thread and interesting discussion. So much more profound than the average C&C thread. Lestat brings up good points yet "Ludendorf" ? does also.

9/11 was definetely the bigger tragedy overall, but Hurricane Katrina was perhaps dealt with less sucessfully, making it's after-effects more tragic than the after-effects of 911.

 

[bluepeter]

so do you, brian lestat, feel obligated to help?
if so then donate time and/or money

i totally guessed on the gov't monies...i could be way off

I'm not as generous and feel little obligation
i doubt the majority of those folks would do shit for me if
lake superior flooded my home. and i don't expect them to.
and that's why one has a savings and stock portfilio (sp), too handle business when things go bad

lol at savings and stock portfolios.