which cycle would you choose as a1st cycle

[togi]

As subject says ,
If it were your first cycle and if you were aiming to put 8-10lbs lbm..with significant strength gains and keeping the sides at the minimum which would be your cycle?
d-bol/anavar
eq/anavar
anavar only

 

[ultragainz]

will from your cycles you gave i like the eq and anavar add some test.....deca and winny is a good cycle add some test in there if you want.....but the eq and anavar you said is good always hit creatine with anavar to get better gainz...add some test in that cycle if you like..

 

[RADAR]

I agree with ultra test makes a good base!!!! RADAR

 

[togi]

ultra,
considered the deca-winstrol cycle but I believe that I`m prone to gyno and I don`t believe anything except RU486(I have no chance to get one) prevents progesterone gyno , as a result this cycle stayed out of my list.
I read lots of contradicting comments on use of Test in the first cycle. I heard nothing but good things about Test and I`ll definatelly add it to my later cycles. But I`m not sure if adding Test in a 1st is a good idea. Keeping it on the hand as a wild card for following cycles and using milder roids while my receptors are fresh and would greatly repond even mild AS, is another option.
I appreciate your opinions guys, keep `em coming.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

ultra,
considered the deca-winstrol cycle but I believe that I`m prone to gyno and I don`t believe anything except RU486(I have no chance to get one) prevents progesterone gyno , as a result this cycle stayed out of my list.
I read lots of contradicting comments on use of Test in the first cycle. I heard nothing but good things about Test and I`ll definatelly add it to my later cycles. But I`m not sure if adding Test in a 1st is a good idea. Keeping it on the hand as a wild card for following cycles and using milder roids while my receptors are fresh and would greatly repond even mild AS, is another option.
I appreciate your opinions guys, keep `em coming.

First off, Winny prevents progesterone gyno and second, Test is always a good addition to a cycle, even if it is your first. IMO it should be the base of any cycle

M18

 

[Audio8]

why just these 3 choices? Is this all you can get or something?

 

[big kev1]

mustang 18 is right on the money again, test should always be the base of cyclewhere theemphasis is on size. TEST TEST TEST...

 

[togi]

Ok guys so how is sustanon/anavar(sounds good huh) cycle?
I wanna do a mild cycle. so please don`t ask me to add d-bol or eq into this cycle. Consider this one as a 4th option ( in addition to 3 I listed in the poll) and help me to choose one of `em.

 

[SixPac]

Doing sust in the first cycle, I wouldn't just pick a test it will be better for future cycles. Going simple on your first cycle will help your next cycle, sust is a compound of 4 tests.

Just my thoughts though
6pac

 

[batgirl]

go with test enan at 200-250mg a week for 4-6 weeks and then do winny for another 3 weeks and start clomid

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

if keeping the sides at the minimum is very important to you, then just use anavar.

 

[manny78]

My answer to your poll is none of these cycles. As stated by some bros before test should be included in any good cycle. A good 1st cycle would be test/winny (like I did for my 1st one), or maybe test/winny/deca/dbols.....

 

[mlomker]

EQ/winny would be an okay cycle. I'm doing dbol/omna/deca on my first. Make it worth your while, I figure.

 

[Audio8]

How old are you? I don't think test would be a good idea as a first cycle if you are too young, as it will kill your natural test over time, in which case I would suggest doing a Deca/winny cycle, which is pretty safe. Plus you will get goo results.

 

[str8cubano]

i would go with just anavar to see what you can gain in lean muscle solid mass...then go ahead with test. At least thats what i would do...

 

[Behemoth]

huge bump for test

just wish the rest of mine would show up...so i could finish my cycle.....

 

[TxRugby_8]

POSTED BY TOGI

As subject says , If it wer your first cycle and if you were aiming to put 8-10lbs lbm.. with significant strength gains and keeping the sides at the minimum which would be your cycle?

As subject says, how would you know you were prone to gyno if you've never cycled before??? Progesterone gyno and estrogenic gyno are two differant things. As ultra said, whinny will prevent and progesteronic side effects.

How old??? stats??? how long have you been lifting seriously and seriously watching your diet???

IMO Test should always be included in a first cycle, if you are old enough. Some people disagree with me, but Test gives very good mass gains and on your first cycle is when you get your best mass gains so you must utilize it.

 

[togi]

As subject says, how would you know you were prone to gyno if you've never cycled before??? Progesterone gyno and estrogenic gyno are two differant things. As ultra said, whinny will prevent and progesteronic side effects.

How old??? stats??? how long have you been lifting seriously and seriously watching your diet???

Thanks Rugby good questions, I`ll try to answer all of `em.
Ok here are my stats I`m 5.11" 156lbs 11.5% bf
I`m 25 and I`ve been working out for 2.5 years (5-6 days a week).
I`m not too skinny for a156er (15.5" arms, 52" shoulder,44" chest, 31" waist,23.5" legs) I guess my bones do not weigh much
I`m eating very clean around 1-1.5g of protein for each body pound again between 2500-3500kcal(6 meals a day) depending on my workout intensity.
I`ve been following this diet for last 2 years.
About being prone to gyno , your right I can`t be 100% sure but I got Adolescent gyno when I was a kid.
Any my chest used to be large in proportion to my other body parts.
As far as estrogen gyno goes we have arimidex handy , so it`s not a concern for me.
But for progesterone gyno I don`t 100% count on Winny(I`m not saying it doesn`t work I`m saying I`m skeptical and don`t wanna risk)

 

[togi]

After hearing lots of good things from profound guys of the board , now I`m also considering Test/anavar cycle.
Could a mode add this to the current pole as a 4th option please?

 

[SixPac]

hey togi,

2.5 years of working out for 5-6 time a week and your eating about 150-200 grams of protein a day and you only 156 pounds????
Are you one of those guys at the gym who talks for hour and lifts for 5min????

6pac

 

[togi]

hehe,
nope you got it wrong 6pack.
I was not into size so much. I used to do a month of bulking followed buy a month of cutting phase.
By this way , I was adding muscle and dropping my bf as well.

 

[bigmac]

WITHOUT A BOBT EQ ANAVAR. THIS IS A GOOD COMBO FOR GGOD SOLID KEEPABLE GAINS YOU WONT BE DISSAPOINTED

 

[NFG123]

new cycle

Thought test would make a good first cycle.

I was thinking of running 250 mg of sust per week for 8 weeks ... for a first cycle.

Whats the call on this, guys?

New Guy

 

[DTOX]

like someone else said, I'm surprised that winny+deca wasn't an option to vote for

 

[Strong_Man20]

Why dont you just do test alone??