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Which compounds do you not respond well to?

alcatraz1662

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Everyone is different. Which steroids didn't do shit for you? With everything taken into consideration, including the possibility of having bunk gear; what compounds did you take and it just wasn't worth it? For me:

1. Clen - ran 2 different UG/research chems, ramped it up to 220-240mcg and felt nada.
2. EQ - got hungry as hell for a while, but after it was all said and done, didn't notice anything different that the test didn't do.
3. Var - that's right, i said it. 80mg/ed and got a little veiny, but nothing I couldn't achieve with 50mg of winny.

~Alc
 
OMEGA said:
i think you and me are the only ones in the entire damn world that have this problem, omeg. :rolleyes: go fig,
 
EQ - results were mild and the sides were terrible (anxiety), I ran two different brands as well
 
Masteron.. worked well, but to harsh on my hairline :)
and with EQ i only got vasquilairity and no increase in appetite.

get the best results with: test, dbol, tren and winny
 
tren - sides were horrible though strength was incredible. thiNking of trying it again with a diff approach
 
for me too, but I think I went abit overboard with the dosage ed, think im gonna go much lower next time.:)

besides that, its the compound that changed my body the most.. Great drug, but mean sides..
 
alcatraz1662 said:
i think you and me are the only ones in the entire damn world that have this problem, omeg. :rolleyes: go fig,


Clen too, but that stuff if just evil.......

the var yes its sad lol, it just never did much more then a good creatine load here. It was a $1000 lesson lol
 
swole said:
EQ - results were mild and the sides were terrible (anxiety), I ran two different brands as well


yep that too

def about 400 and above you get wierd thought patterns :evil: :chomp:

i think at a mere 200-300 a week ( yes unconventional advice) it does offer killer pumps do to RBC increases
 
Oddly enough, for me right now winstrol doesn't seem to be working well for me. It is the only aas that I have run in all of my cycles to date and so maybe that has something to do with it, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. All it seems to be doing is leaving a sore inject site in the days following. Really sore actually.
 
Must be used with deca? Interesting, I've never heard that before. Plead your case brotha, I want to hear it!
 
i have responded well to every cycle i have ever done. i've paid strict attention
to training and diet while "on" and off.

5 years ago, i was a pretty bulked up guy. i ran stuff like test w/ dbol, anadrol etc...
i don't do those type cycles anymore. i prefer anavar, primo, eq and tren these days.

primo and anavar seem to effect the most change in the already conditioned trainer.

simple cycles of testosterone seem to make the biggest difference for the beginner.
 
OMEGA said:
winstrol only makes sense as a stackable and it must be used with Deca

must be run with deca? Because of the joints I assume? I have never heard that before, but thats what i assume you are referring to.

I have winny that i was intending on running soon, and do not plan on stacking it with deca, so I would like to hear what you have to say, I know you are an experienced bro.
 
Abombs ,dont now if i was wanting to much, but little strengh and no big weight gain and diet was high just a red face .


Brad.
 
Hes talikin about the dry joints and the deca could counter it but IMO that defeats the purpose of runnin the winny in the first place, this is only a question that could be answered if u were only on ONE compound to evaluate that ONE only and somethin is tellin me u guys are all stakkin and tryin to isolate results of one drug and its impossible
 
swole said:
EQ - results were mild and the sides were terrible (anxiety), I ran two different brands as well
i ran eq for 13 weeks at 600mg/ew for a first time and saw nothing. craved a burger here and there, but not worth the $$ IMO....some people love the shit though.
 
boletryne said:
get the best results with: test, dbol, tren and winny
absolutely, positively agree with you on this......i just can't touch winny anymore. shit wrecked havoc on my ligaments, tore so many body parts I've lost count.
 
apparently i dont respond well to dbol i started at 30-40 now at 80mg ed i love tren hell im about to start tren ace 130mg ed on this cycle thats my sweet spot
 
alcatraz1662 said:
i ran eq for 13 weeks at 600mg/ew for a first time and saw nothing. craved a burger here and there, but not worth the $$ IMO....some people love the shit though.

And I am one that loves Eq!

It just seems to creep up on my week by week..each week getting bigger and stronger. Love it. I just have to carefully watch my BP though as it does make it rise. I sometimes donate blood mid cycle to clear a few RBC as when I do this I see my BP lowering again. I try not too but if is getting too high then this is a last resort.
 
Deca can be trouble coming off of for me. EQ is just a better option for me, although I didn't see the the incredible gains until I went up to 750mg's a week. Anxiety was a little annoying.
 
I think EQ was great.. I never could stop at the gym.. I was so zoned in. Some of my buddies warned me that i might Overtrain. That shit could make me run a triathlon and work out for 2 solid hours if i wanted. Def game me non stop energy.

Do you guys ever wonder if the stuff you got was bunk?
 
pharm grade d.e.c.a was great for some elbow joint pain for me--but did not see any results that i would not have seen with t.e.s.t. alone--BUT i did not go over 200/week.....so not sure if that makes for a legit claim that it does not work for me.
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a.b.o.m.b.s --i felt like the blueberry chick from willy wonka

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alcatraz1662 said:
Everyone is different. Which steroids didn't do shit for you? With everything taken into consideration, including the possibility of having bunk gear; what compounds did you take and it just wasn't worth it? For me:

1. Clen - ran 2 different UG/research chems, ramped it up to 220-240mcg and felt nada.
2. EQ - got hungry as hell for a while, but after it was all said and done, didn't notice anything different that the test didn't do.
3. Var - that's right, i said it. 80mg/ed and got a little veiny, but nothing I couldn't achieve with 50mg of winny.

~Alc


Var didn't do a thing for me either. Nada.
 
Guvna said:
Var didn't do a thing for me either. Nada.
damn, another one bites the dust....i know that the lower bodyfat you have, the more you will see out of it; but I was around 11% when i started and still wasn't impressed.
 
clen was good at firt but then gave me such bad shakes that I swear the lady at the grocery store though I was stealing stuff. I was shaking so bad I could barely hand her my money to pay from my groceries.
 
alcatraz1662 said:
Everyone is different. Which steroids didn't do shit for you? With everything taken into consideration, including the possibility of having bunk gear; what compounds did you take and it just wasn't worth it? For me:

1. Clen - ran 2 different UG/research chems, ramped it up to 220-240mcg and felt nada.
2. EQ - got hungry as hell for a while, but after it was all said and done, didn't notice anything different that the test didn't do.
3. Var - that's right, i said it. 80mg/ed and got a little veiny, but nothing I couldn't achieve with 50mg of winny.

~Alc


Deca just made me hold so much water the pumps hurt worse than dbol pumps in my shins and back.

Dbol just gave me terrible pains in my back and shins

As for the best compound trenny tren tren
 
No more Dbol- Too much bloat and it KILLS my hair.
No more Deca- Ran it several times then BANG, pecker probs.
 
Deca is the worst for me. Got DecaD*ck running 200mg Deca and 500mg test. Never do it again. Looking into Equipose.
 
Deca and NPP have been a disappointment for me time and time again... gains weren't stellar (yah, I probably could've taken in more calories each time)... what I got most from them was bloat and libido issues (and hell recovering).

D-bol wasn't impressive for me either....sides overshadowed benefits...I'll stick to t-bol!

Tren and test are my fav's!
 
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Anything from the Roid store. Nothing did anything and I can't figure out why. I took the recommended dosage on the side of the bottle!
 
this is interesting....lot of deca haters out there. Tren seems to be a fav though. perryscoon, is that sarcasm? :p
 
alcatraz1662 said:
this is interesting....lot of deca haters out there. Tren seems to be a fav though. perryscoon, is that sarcasm? :p

I'm a deca-hater based on substantial experience...but there are definitely alot of "seasonal-haters".... those that hate just because something is just not "in" anymore.... it's all cyclical (no pun intended)

Yah, perryscoon thought he could easily get tren tabs from the roid store and was sorely disappointed :)
 
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njmuscleguy said:
I'm a deca-hater based on substantial experience...but there are definitely alot of "seasonal-haters".... those that hate just because something out not "in" anymore.... it's all cyclical (no pun intended)

Yah, perryscoon thought he could easily get tren tabs from the roid store and was sorely disappointed :)


:verygood:
 
njmuscleguy said:
I'm a deca-hater based on substantial experience...but there are definitely alot of "seasonal-haters".... those that hate just because something is just not "in" anymore.... it's all cyclical (no pun intended)

Yah, perryscoon thought he could easily get tren tabs from the roid store and was sorely disappointed :)
deca from what i knew (not experience) was an excellent bulker, never really heard the negs from it. the bloat and infamous deca dick seem to be common, but i've never heard of people flat out not responding to it.

eh, to each his own.
 
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