Which company do you despise most?

[u4ik_RAGE]

And one last question to you. If you know that Creatine and Glutamine use the same receptors, why would you continue to take them at the same time, granted even if it does not totally waste one or the other, its still makes it less effective. Why not just take them at different times? Just curious............

The long explanation: When I was making my mix, I wasn't sure if I should add the glutamine. Since I would be taking this almost exclusively as a post workout drink, I decided to add the glutamine because of it's anti-catabolic properties. When I get home I take my 40 grams of whey. I'm sure you're aware you only get the GH release from glutamine when it's not competing wth other aminos. So either way, you're not getting the optimum use out of the glutamine, but it's much better to have the glutamine than not... catch 22.

Short explanation: When you start focusing on little things like will you lose a little absorption, you lose sight of the big picture. Just take the supps and pay more attention to tweaking diet and training and life in general than these little things.

Anyway, with the gains you made, I think you deserve more credit than Muscletech. Without some dedication there is no way you would have made those gains no matter what you were taking. Switch those products out to EAS (Phosphagen HP and ALA instead of Cell-Tech, Advanced protein instead of Nitro-Tech, Myoplex instead of Meso-Tech) and you would be praising the hell out of EAS.

I will stand behind my opinion that Muscletech is overpriced and not just pricey. Reason being, I can find you a better product than each of theirs for less money. And those other products being better, I guess that's only my opinion too, but I'll use the others.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

Hooray, Pinnacle finally got a vote!! They should be right up there with Muscle Marketing as far as ineffective products.

 

[Blkout]

The long explanation: When I was making my mix, I wasn't sure if I should add the glutamine. Since I would be taking this almost exclusively as a post workout drink, I decided to add the glutamine because of it's anti-catabolic properties. When I get home I take my 40 grams of whey. I'm sure you're aware you only get the GH release from glutamine when it's not competing wth other aminos. So either way, you're not getting the optimum use out of the glutamine, but it's much better to have the glutamine than not... catch 22.

Short explanation: When you start focusing on little things like will you lose a little absorption, you lose sight of the big picture. Just take the supps and pay more attention to tweaking diet and training and life in general than these little things.

Anyway, with the gains you made, I think you deserve more credit than Muscletech. Without some dedication there is no way you would have made those gains no matter what you were taking. Switch those products out to EAS (Phosphagen HP and ALA instead of Cell-Tech, Advanced protein instead of Nitro-Tech, Myoplex instead of Meso-Tech) and you would be praising the hell out of EAS.

I will stand behind my opinion that Muscletech is overpriced and not just pricey. Reason being, I can find you a better product than each of theirs for less money. And those other products being better, I guess that's only my opinion too, but I'll use the others.

Well as a matter of fact, I used to use EAS products exculsively for about 3 years before I switched to Muscletech and the difference is night and day. I gained 20lbs in the whole 3 years using EAS, I gained 65lbs using Muscletech products. I am not saying this for arguments sake but for the fact that I whole-heartedly believe that Cell-Tech and Meso-Tech have no equals. yes I will say that I have used gear as well, no natural supplement can give you 65lbs in 3 years but I have been using gear off and on for over 8 years now even when I was taking EAS products.

 

[Boss101]

Muscletech and Impact Nutrition waste of money.

 

[gmanlax7]

Im also not a fan of Weider brand products, it think its because theyre everywhere you go, grocery stores, pharmacies, and it seems like the company is preying on the naive market

 

[CytoMel]

Muscletech does their research, they have some of the best sports scientists in the world working on R&D, that is what you pay for.

lol Muscletech has the worlds best sports scientists like those fakes in lab coats in the ads. What about those Muscletech studies the ones they claim to do lol....sounds like someone who is actually suckered into that hype from the ads

 

[CytoMel]

Well at least Muscletech didnt lie about HMB. I was at a supplement store last week and some dude bought over $100 on HMB! Makes me wonder why some people are such fools!

 

[macrophage69alpha]

not sure what they mean by 97% whey isolate..

but the highest percentage commercially available isolate is 92% by weight

they could mean that 97% of the protein is isolate.. that could be a legitmate claim..

 

[KillJoy]

Ok.........muscletech's cell tech?.........gave me some mass all right......in the toilet that is! Hydroxycut?......it's ok. Nitrotech?
to tell you the truth, I think a caseins kicks whey's ass anyway.
MUSCLETECH is nothing great. and Blkout....... all that science? what Science? muscle tech is a one trick pony! If they were so cuting edge, how come they have had the same shit for about six years? nothing new. ok , the hydroxycut got a face lift.......but what else? oh I forgot.........the bars( I really like the bars)
I guess we all have our flaws

KJ

 

[Fonz]

No, I'm not kidding and your post is ridiculous.

Where is your proof that most people have to take way more pills? Maybe some people are abusing the product in order to try to accomplish something it was not designed for.

Where is your proof that Nitro-Tech is not 97% isolate? Also do you not understand that Nitro-Tech has more advantages than just being a whey protein? Guess not.......

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

I cannot believe you actually fell for that........LOL

Why must Cell-Tech contain 300% more ALA? I guess it depends on what your trying to accomplish. Cell-Tech works very well by adding dextrose to spike insulin levels to make the body absorb more creatine. Havine ALA is nice a benefit, but not what the product was created around. Its only been here recently that the ALA surge arrived on this board. Where is the hardcore proof that ALA works the wonders that everyone here claims it does? Have any of you do a blind placebo? How do you know Cell-Tech requires 300% more ALA? Where is your proof of the exact effective dosage? oh I forgot, I suppose you've done more research than Muscletech, silly me.............



You bet I have. Better yet, phone up Muscletech and have one of their so-called experts come down for a discussion.
I'll put him to shame.


/B]

MUSCLETECH is WAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY over-priced for an average
product.

Can't you realize its ALL IN THE MARKETING!!!!!

You can make your own Cell-tech at 1/3 price with 3X
more ALA for gods sake.

Nitro-Tech? LOL. More like Nitro-SHIT......

They even threatened litigation against EF because they
KNEW we KNEW the truth about their CRAP products,
and feared we'd spread such a consensus across the internet,
HURTING THEIR BOTTOM LINE.

Thats all they care about.....their bottom line.

Fonz