Where the Fuck is our Freedom?

[danaf1]

Yea I'll tell you when I first got in the military I wasn't old enough to drink and the Air Force is strict as hell about it. Everyone and I mean everyone thinks it should be otherwise but they cant allow us to break the law I guess. It really doesn't make any sense that after all the work we do and all the sacraficdes we make that we cant have a beer at the end of the day.

Yeah bro, when I was in tech school I wasn't old enough to drink and they made such a huge deal about underage drinkers and I knew a few guys who where Article 15'd for it. Then I got to Germany and the legal drinking age for us is 18, so when I got here I was drinking with my bosses at cat calls. It was weird to be under 21 and drinking with these tech and master sgt's and it being perfectly legal. My 21st b-day sucked because there wasn't anything to celebrate, I had already been drinking leaglly over a year at the time.

 

[danaf1]

have you been to any other western country?

I have.

Almost every European country is better than us in terms of freedom, healthcare, tolerance, academics, crime.

So maybe you should compare apples to apples, instead of apples to oranges

In other words you should be comparing the US to other WESTERN countries.

When you do that, you will see that we are very far behind in many areas.

People think that America is as good as it gets, but thats not true.

Europe is about as good as it gets.

I have been living in Europe for the last two years. I agree that there are a lot of freedoms and cultural aspects the US should adopt but in some ways they pay for these, literally. In Germany, for example, the income tax in over 50%!!! Could you imagine half of your paycheck being taken by the government? Sales tax is 18%!! A drivers license costs an average of about 2500 euros. Depending on the exchange rates, but that is about $3,000 US. However, the views on alcohol, nudity, and some others are things that would make the US better. I still prefer living in the US to Europe.

 

[danaf1]

After that Real Sports special on juice, take a peek what is happening to that doc.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8928253/

So much for freedom if you ask me.

That's completely fucked up!! A doc has the balls to stand up for what he believes, and being a doc I think he knows what he is talking about more than politicians, and they use it to bust him and people he "treats". Almost too fucked up for words.

 

[Killer_Clown]

Ok bros,



its time to get the fuck back on track here with this post. It is about how the laws in the USA do not promote freedom and lock up innocnet athletes in jail for doing nothing more than trying to be the best at their sport.

How these so called Freedon Laws treat an athlete wit the same respect as a fucking crack head theif, killer.


I am tired of this post being turned into a "The USA is better the India, Guatamala and Timbuck Fucking TOO"


I don't give a flying fuk what some third world country does, this does not justify our politicians being fucking ass slime for imposing stupid nazi like laws on us.

They keep taking away more and more freedoms until you won't be able to do anything


America is losing more and more of her freedoms day after day and it is going to only get worse

So stop turning this into some stupid right wing fucking propoganda bullshit speach on how if you don't like the rules leave...all I say is fuck off

 

[danaf1]

Ok bros,



its time to get the fuck back on track here with this post. It is about how the laws in the USA do not promote freedom and lock up innocnet athletes in jail for doing nothing more than trying to be the best at their sport.

How these so called Freedon Laws treat an athlete wit the same respect as a fucking crack head theif, killer.


I am tired of this post being turned into a "The USA is better the India, Guatamala and Timbuck Fucking TOO"


I don't give a flying fuk what some third world country does, this does not justify our politicians being fucking ass slime for imposing stupid nazi like laws on us.

They keep taking away more and more freedoms until you won't be able to do anything


America is losing more and more of her freedoms day after day and it is going to only get worse

So stop turning this into some stupid right wing fucking propoganda bullshit speach on how if you don't like the rules leave...all I say is fuck off

Everyone here knows the laws on steroids are stupid. As far as the athletes go it is stupid that they can go to jail for steroid use, but that is just like everyone else. If the NFL says no steroids, then I don't see a problem with a player being booted for using them, but that is a private sector. The general public should not be banned. If baseball doesn't want the players using then that is their call, but a bb who is doing his own thing shouldn't be told he can't use. I think it would be a good idea for it to be mandated that steroids can only be used under a doctors supervision because a lot of dumbasses would fuck themselves up otherwise, but I guess that is their own fault if they did. The US does restrict us too much on certain things that should be our own right to choose and I don't see any politicians standing up for that especially on the steroid perspective, at least not successfully if at all.

 

[Killer_Clown]

You go Danafil


great post man, its good to see others with your outlook too


like I said earlier if a trany wants to get his wang chopped and turned in to a vagina and then asks a doctor to give him steroids ) Female hormones) then hey that is ok under our so called bullshit freedom laws


But someone who wants to go to his doctor and get help to take steroids under supervision to better his body or sport then all you do is get lookded down upon.




thinks about how fucked this scenario is... the tranny that goes for the dick chopping operation then is pumped with hormones is not looked down upon in our fucking stupid society if anything they are praised for their "Courage"...whatever the fuck bullshit


But If you get busted with gear to better your sport or physique you are considered a fucking dirtbag criminal that deserves to be locked up with killers and theives...Oh yea love the freeedom

 

[tatman3177]

The laws are set up to protect the ones in power. and killer clown you do have some good points but in regards so do all the others. Its as simple as this until the people that use steriods are represented in Washington nothings going to change because as a whole we are not the ones in power. Rules and laws only changed when the ones in power get caught doing illeagal activity. They cater to each other.
The Constitution says "We The People" if we really want the laws to change then we as a people need to get more voices in Washington. It works the same both ways, the media hyped the negitive propaganda and that in turn put the pressure on Washington. If we the people put the pressure on the other side then eventually things would change. They dont really see the side of things we do as ordinarry people but they have to rely on those same poeple to put hem in office, and respond the same with pressure as we the poeple do.

 

[ziggyziggy]

This is just not true in general.

Ever been to Pakistan? Or perhaps just about any cenrtal african nation? Didn't think so. Keep on regurgitating media talking points, as it makes you look really stupid.

Zig

 

[danaf1]

You go Danafil


great post man, its good to see others with your outlook too


like I said earlier if a trany wants to get his wang chopped and turned in to a vagina and then asks a doctor to give him steroids ) Female hormones) then hey that is ok under our so called bullshit freedom laws


But someone who wants to go to his doctor and get help to take steroids under supervision to better his body or sport then all you do is get lookded down upon.




thinks about how fucked this scenario is... the tranny that goes for the dick chopping operation then is pumped with hormones is not looked down upon in our fucking stupid society if anything they are praised for their "Courage"...whatever the fuck bullshit


But If you get busted with gear to better your sport or physique you are considered a fucking dirtbag criminal that deserves to be locked up with killers and theives...Oh yea love the freeedom

I never thought about the trannie thing before, but you are right, it is REALLY fucked up! And since it is a free country we are not supposed to think lesser of them yet if we use them to improve ourselves we are criminals and the scum of society.

 

[ziggyziggy]

The law on the books are the laws on the books. If I decide to use a substance that is deemed illegal to possess, then I should be willing to face the consequences of my actions, should I get caught. Regardless if what I choose to possess is AAS, crack, marijuana, firearms under the FFL, counterfeit currency, explosives, or biological weapons, I should understand the risks.

Do I believe that the laws against AAS are a good thing? No. However, should I buy or possess them, I am willing to pay the legal price should I get caught. In the end, that is what it comes down to. Personal responsibility. Something that most liberals, like yourself, do not possess. You want to have your cake and eat it too. You want to break the law and then get off without even a slap on the wrist. You don't want to work hard, but you feel you deserve a Mercedes car, a $2 million mansion, and a pocket full of cash.

Grow up kid, and get a grip. Life isn't fair, deal with it. Work within the system to change it. But do the rest of us a favor and quit standing there and screeching like an altar boy who was just cornholed by his priest for the first time because you don't like it. It makes you look .

I visit Europe every year, and while I enjoy my trips, there is no place that I would rather live than in America. An individual has more opportunity to prosper and become wealthy here than anywhere else.

Ok bros,



its time to get the fuck back on track here with this post. It is about how the laws in the USA do not promote freedom and lock up innocnet athletes in jail for doing nothing more than trying to be the best at their sport.

How these so called Freedon Laws treat an athlete wit the same respect as a fucking crack head theif, killer.


I am tired of this post being turned into a "The USA is better the India, Guatamala and Timbuck Fucking TOO"


I don't give a flying fuk what some third world country does, this does not justify our politicians being fucking ass slime for imposing stupid nazi like laws on us.

They keep taking away more and more freedoms until you won't be able to do anything


America is losing more and more of her freedoms day after day and it is going to only get worse

So stop turning this into some stupid right wing fucking propoganda bullshit speach on how if you don't like the rules leave...all I say is fuck off