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Where do supplements come into an AAS cycle?
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Creatine Both on and OFF, for cellular energy, cell volumiziation, and increase in protein synthesis do in part to cellular hydration.
Carnitines of some sort for Fat mobilization and health
Protien Powder, and I would argue Glutamine peptides as well for added nitrogen retention, gut health and immune benefits.
I HIGHLY recommend, LIPOFLAME, AMPLIFY02, RAWmcc, and G-covery
as they provide all of the above and much much more
sorry to sound spammy but its just true
-OMEGA
www.AGXsports.com
Carnitines of some sort for Fat mobilization and health
Protien Powder, and I would argue Glutamine peptides as well for added nitrogen retention, gut health and immune benefits.
I HIGHLY recommend, LIPOFLAME, AMPLIFY02, RAWmcc, and G-covery
as they provide all of the above and much much more
sorry to sound spammy but its just true
-OMEGA
www.AGXsports.com
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Hurricane55
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I'm limited on cash so I just spend more on food and try to get it all through that.
krbn08
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OMEGA said:Creatine Both on and OFF, for cellular energy, cell volumiziation, and increase in protein synthesis do in part to cellular hydration.
Carnitines of some sort for Fat mobilization and health
Protien Powder, and I would agrgue Glutamine peptides as well for added nitrogen retention, gut health and immune benifits.
I HIGHLY recommend, LIPOFLAME, AMPLIFY02, RAWmcc, and G-covery
as they provide all of the above and much much more
sorry to sound spammy but its just true
-OMEGA
www.AGXsports.com
lol once i run out of NO x-plode, i'm giving your amp02 a try, so don't worry
i've heard nothing but great results from it and i've looked at whats in it and it looks good.
needtogetaas
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custom caps can give you all in one cap.krbn08 said:
needtogetaas
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ok ok I was just fucking around.krbn08 said:
needtogetaas
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first off OMEGA post was a good one.
other good sups to take would be things for blood pressure like PROBIOTICS/
NUTRACEUTICALS ,acne if you get this,VITAMINS are a must imo as well as protein and nows the time to spend the money on the best you can get to.A good liver support cap is deff a good thing to I made up a good on in a thread I will post it in a bit.if your running aas like winny something for your joints is a good bet got a cap for that to.DIGESTIVE ENZYMES/DIGESTIVE SUPPORT if you have problems with the large amounts of food you will be eating.IMMUNE SUPPORT if you need it.SLEEP SUPPLEMENTS some times aas hinders your sleep.
its all about know your self and what you need and what helps you the most.
other good sups to take would be things for blood pressure like PROBIOTICS/
NUTRACEUTICALS ,acne if you get this,VITAMINS are a must imo as well as protein and nows the time to spend the money on the best you can get to.A good liver support cap is deff a good thing to I made up a good on in a thread I will post it in a bit.if your running aas like winny something for your joints is a good bet got a cap for that to.DIGESTIVE ENZYMES/DIGESTIVE SUPPORT if you have problems with the large amounts of food you will be eating.IMMUNE SUPPORT if you need it.SLEEP SUPPLEMENTS some times aas hinders your sleep.
its all about know your self and what you need and what helps you the most.
krbn08 said:
me personally have used all of that. bcaa and glutamine no question....will only help strengthen the immune system and recovery time. i wouldnt use creatine mono just because i bloat off of that and i never do a cycle without test which bloats me as well. arginine ive used plenty but id rather let one of the experts answer the arginine question.
needtogetaas
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BCAA Ethyl Ester Powdermarkshark said:
Creatine Ethyl Ester Powder
Creatine Ethyl Ester 550mg Capsules
its all about the Ethyl Ester now bro.
Creatine ethyl ester is a relatively new form of creatine monohydrate that has been modified to have an ester group attached. This modification appears to have solved one the main shortcomings of creatine supplementation: poor transport of creatine across the cell membrane. Creatine monohydrate’s tremendous action occurs inside the cells and it can only cross the cell membrane by binding to transporter molecules. The problem with this process is that the bulk of supplemental creatine cannot successfully bind to these transporters and is left wastefully outside the cell to cause the familiar effects of bloating. The ester modification of creatine ethyl ester is believed to increase creatine’s affinity for this transporter, resulting in increased transporter binding and increased delivery of creatine into the cell. Creatine ethyl ester therefore has the potential to not only be more effective but cause less discomfort. For the serious athlete this means creatine ethyl ester can provide more energy, more power, and more muscle.with a lot less bloat.
beda bing http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
krbn08
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HumanTarget said:
Not that i know of, but hell i was wondering if taking NO-xplode before sex
would help you from getting tired, plus the arginine would give a good pump.
it might work, i was going to try it next time i find some pussy
Maybe some type of coordination drug would help dancing ???
As far as dancing goes, beer has never done me wrong or atleast i feel i'm dancing better.
needtogetaas
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thats what dermacrin is for bro.krbn08 said:Not that i know of, but hell i was wondering if taking NO-xplode before sex
would help you from getting tired, plus the arginine would give a good pump.
it might work, i was going to try it next time i find some pussy
Maybe some type of coordination drug would help dancing ???
well on of the things its for.needtogetaas said:BCAA Ethyl Ester Powder
Creatine Ethyl Ester Powder
Creatine Ethyl Ester 550mg Capsules
its all about the Ethyl Ester now bro.
Creatine ethyl ester is a relatively new form of creatine monohydrate that has been modified to have an ester group attached. This modification appears to have solved one the main shortcomings of creatine supplementation: poor transport of creatine across the cell membrane. Creatine monohydrate’s tremendous action occurs inside the cells and it can only cross the cell membrane by binding to transporter molecules. The problem with this process is that the bulk of supplemental creatine cannot successfully bind to these transporters and is left wastefully outside the cell to cause the familiar effects of bloating. The ester modification of creatine ethyl ester is believed to increase creatine’s affinity for this transporter, resulting in increased transporter binding and increased delivery of creatine into the cell. Creatine ethyl ester therefore has the potential to not only be more effective but cause less discomfort. For the serious athlete this means creatine ethyl ester can provide more energy, more power, and more muscle.with a lot less bloat.
beda bing http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
totally agree. i take CE2 and im still on. i know that amplify02 stuff has creatine ethyl in it. and honestly im staying solid and strong from those supps with no bloat.
krbn08
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needtogetaas said:BCAA Ethyl Ester Powder
Creatine Ethyl Ester Powder
Creatine Ethyl Ester 550mg Capsules
its all about the Ethyl Ester now bro.
Creatine ethyl ester is a relatively new form of creatine monohydrate that has been modified to have an ester group attached. This modification appears to have solved one the main shortcomings of creatine supplementation: poor transport of creatine across the cell membrane. Creatine monohydrate’s tremendous action occurs inside the cells and it can only cross the cell membrane by binding to transporter molecules. The problem with this process is that the bulk of supplemental creatine cannot successfully bind to these transporters and is left wastefully outside the cell to cause the familiar effects of bloating. The ester modification of creatine ethyl ester is believed to increase creatine’s affinity for this transporter, resulting in increased transporter binding and increased delivery of creatine into the cell. Creatine ethyl ester therefore has the potential to not only be more effective but cause less discomfort. For the serious athlete this means creatine ethyl ester can provide more energy, more power, and more muscle.with a lot less bloat.
beda bing http://www.customcapsule.com/index.html
You have creatine ethyl ester at custom capsule?
needtogetaas
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dddddame rights bro.we got it all.we got any thing that can come in ethel ester.look around the site bro we got more then you think.krbn08 said:
its under SPORT SUPPLEMENTS and also under other stuff to.we put thousands of sups in the palm of your hand and give you the keys to making any thing your mind can think of.we can make any thing you need or you can make it yourself.
krbn08
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needtogetaas said:
i'm seriously going to give this custom capsule a try.
i have been thinking of a way to set this up too . .
for example, i'm thinking of making one custom capsule for morning which is
going to be everything to kick start my day.
I was also going to make a night time custom capsule that would have supps that i need before bed
such as melatonin, GABA, and arginine. You know what i mean.
i'm going to give this site a real look, but i don't think i'll be able to buy til after my AAS cycle
needtogetaas
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let me give you a small taste of what they have.
5-HTP 20% Powder 100g
Acetyl L-Carnitine Powder 500g
Acetyl L-Carnitine 500mg Capsules 150ct
Balancing Act Herbal 150ct
BCAA Ethyl Ester Powder 500g
BCAA Extend Lime Flavored 500g
BCAA Powder 500g
Bone Support Capsules 150ct
Caffeine Anhydrous Powder 500g
Cissus Quadrangularis (5% Ketosteroids) Powder 100g
Cissus Quadrangularis (5% Ketosteroids) Powder 500g
Cissus Quadrangularis 650mg Capsules 150ct.
Creatine Ethyl Ester Powder 500g
Creatine Ethyl Ester 550mg Capsules 150ct
Creatine Monohydrate Powder 500g
D-Ribose Powder 200g
DL-Phenylalanine Powder 500g
DMAE Powder 200g
Evodiamine Powder 98% 25g
Eye Support Capsules 150ct
Fat Burner Synergy Capsules 150ct
Flaxseed Powder 500g
GABA (Gamma-aminobutyric acid) Powder 500g
Glucosamine, Chondroitin, & MSM JointAid 150ct
Glycocyamine Powder 500g
L-Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate Powder 500g
L-Arginine Ethyl Ester 500mg Capsules 150ct.
L-Arginine Powder 500g
L-Carnitine Fumerate 500g
L-Glutamine Powder 500g
L-Isoleucine Powder 500g
L-Leucine Powder 500g
L-Norvaline Powder 25g
L-Tyrosine Powder 500g
L-Valine Powder 500g
Mega Sleep Aid Capsules 150ct
Multivitamin with Iron 150ct
Multivitamin without Iron 150ct
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) Powder 500g
Phosphatidylcholine Powder 500g
Pygeum & Saw Palmetto Prostate Support 150ct
R-ALA 100mg Capsules 150ct
Sodium R-Alpha Lipoic Acid Powder 25g
Standardized Ginkgo Biloba Extract 60mg Capsules 150ct
Standardized Milk Thistle Extract 200mg Capsules 150ct
Taurine Powder 500g
Vitamin B50-Complex Capsules 150ct
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) Powder 500g
Vitamin C 500mg Capsules 150ct
WPI (Whey Protein Isolate) 100% Pure 2lb
thats just a small part of the products list the ingredients we have for use in making you own cap would take up to much band with
5-HTP 20% Powder 100g
Acetyl L-Carnitine Powder 500g
Acetyl L-Carnitine 500mg Capsules 150ct
Balancing Act Herbal 150ct
BCAA Ethyl Ester Powder 500g
BCAA Extend Lime Flavored 500g
BCAA Powder 500g
Bone Support Capsules 150ct
Caffeine Anhydrous Powder 500g
Cissus Quadrangularis (5% Ketosteroids) Powder 100g
Cissus Quadrangularis (5% Ketosteroids) Powder 500g
Cissus Quadrangularis 650mg Capsules 150ct.
Creatine Ethyl Ester Powder 500g
Creatine Ethyl Ester 550mg Capsules 150ct
Creatine Monohydrate Powder 500g
D-Ribose Powder 200g
DL-Phenylalanine Powder 500g
DMAE Powder 200g
Evodiamine Powder 98% 25g
Eye Support Capsules 150ct
Fat Burner Synergy Capsules 150ct
Flaxseed Powder 500g
GABA (Gamma-aminobutyric acid) Powder 500g
Glucosamine, Chondroitin, & MSM JointAid 150ct
Glycocyamine Powder 500g
L-Arginine Alpha Ketoglutarate Powder 500g
L-Arginine Ethyl Ester 500mg Capsules 150ct.
L-Arginine Powder 500g
L-Carnitine Fumerate 500g
L-Glutamine Powder 500g
L-Isoleucine Powder 500g
L-Leucine Powder 500g
L-Norvaline Powder 25g
L-Tyrosine Powder 500g
L-Valine Powder 500g
Mega Sleep Aid Capsules 150ct
Multivitamin with Iron 150ct
Multivitamin without Iron 150ct
N-acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC) Powder 500g
Phosphatidylcholine Powder 500g
Pygeum & Saw Palmetto Prostate Support 150ct
R-ALA 100mg Capsules 150ct
Sodium R-Alpha Lipoic Acid Powder 25g
Standardized Ginkgo Biloba Extract 60mg Capsules 150ct
Standardized Milk Thistle Extract 200mg Capsules 150ct
Taurine Powder 500g
Vitamin B50-Complex Capsules 150ct
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid) Powder 500g
Vitamin C 500mg Capsules 150ct
WPI (Whey Protein Isolate) 100% Pure 2lb
thats just a small part of the products list the ingredients we have for use in making you own cap would take up to much band with
needtogetaas
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lol take your time bro caps ant going no werekrbn08 said:i'm seriously going to give this custom capsule a try.
i have been thinking of a way to set this up too . .
for example, i'm thinking of making one custom capsule for morning which is
going to be everything to kick start my day.
I was also going to make a night time custom capsule that would have supps that i need before bed
such as melatonin, GABA, and arginine. You know what i mean.
i'm going to give this site a real look, but i don't think i'll be able to buy til after my AAS cycle
Supps have always been a part of bodybuilding, but mostly for health reasons. Hot Stuff was the first supp to be geared directly for bodybuilding puposes and it wasn't bad, just super hyped. The "kick" everyone felt was from all the herbal stimulents. Then some legit supps came along like creatine and superior proteins -- promoted by Muscle Media 2000 which spoke openly about the use of supps with steroids. And then the infamous "feels like I'm on Deca" HMB debacle. Ever since then people have been leery of supplements.
I write about this in length in my book. There are so many bad and so many good you can't get into them all. I think it depends on your goals and your budget. You could just use a multi and protein and be fine. For a basic beginner bulker/T boosting stack I'd say UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST can't be topped. BIG BLAST has protein and creatine and NO2 so you save on buying them seperately. For someone looking to lose weight, I'd suggest ZIP, AMP02 and a sugar free protein and a multi. Some guys want every advantage and spend a lot of money on supps. Some may say it's not worth it, but for a lot of us, this is our hobby/passion/life and we want to explore every possibility. It's good to have a forum like EF to know what to avoid and what to investigate.
I write about this in length in my book. There are so many bad and so many good you can't get into them all. I think it depends on your goals and your budget. You could just use a multi and protein and be fine. For a basic beginner bulker/T boosting stack I'd say UNLEASHED and BIG BLAST can't be topped. BIG BLAST has protein and creatine and NO2 so you save on buying them seperately. For someone looking to lose weight, I'd suggest ZIP, AMP02 and a sugar free protein and a multi. Some guys want every advantage and spend a lot of money on supps. Some may say it's not worth it, but for a lot of us, this is our hobby/passion/life and we want to explore every possibility. It's good to have a forum like EF to know what to avoid and what to investigate.
needtogetaas
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fuck ya.Nelson Montana said:
solidspine
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Don’t forget with the vitamins, take in a lot of refined sugar for digestion.
chilledandy
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Arginine is not as effective as citrulline for boosting nitrogen levels. Citrulline and arginine together are a killer combo for that, but not necessary when cycling as nitrogen levels are elevated by the gear any way.
An easy way to think of creatine ethyl ester as opposed to creatine mono is if you imaging your stomach lining as one of those childrens toys with holes in that you have to put cubes through the square holes, and pyramids through the triangle holes etc... Creatine mono has a square at one end and a pyramid at the other, but your stomach only has triangle holes. Therefore the creatine can only pass through the stomach if its lined up the right way. Creatine ethyl ester is like creatine with a pyramid on both ends, so it can pass through the stomach lining either way.
An easy way to think of creatine ethyl ester as opposed to creatine mono is if you imaging your stomach lining as one of those childrens toys with holes in that you have to put cubes through the square holes, and pyramids through the triangle holes etc... Creatine mono has a square at one end and a pyramid at the other, but your stomach only has triangle holes. Therefore the creatine can only pass through the stomach if its lined up the right way. Creatine ethyl ester is like creatine with a pyramid on both ends, so it can pass through the stomach lining either way.
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krbn08 said:
Protein and vitamins are your best bet. You can get more of each from supps than from food.
After that, my reccomendation is CyoGenX, which is basically an herbal anti-estrogen that I designed for steroid users to keep them healthy on a cycle.
If you're on a cutting cycle, fat burners are good. As for the NO products and glutamine peptides, I don't actually know anything about them.
For PCT, a normal PCT + MyoGenX and Unleashed is what I reccomend.
For guys on gear, this is the ultimate supplement plan.
While on,
BIG BLAST mixed with Half and Half (Protein, creatine NO2 Spray dried plasma protein)
CytogenX (Keeps estro under control)
A second protein source. (MRP)
UNLEASHED (To make the most T unbound)
Policostinol (To maintain HDL)
Additional Omega 3's
A good multi (Obviously recommend DX7)
DEFINITION (To elliminate bloat)
For PCT
MyogenX
Continue UNLEASHED to restore as much T as possible
Dermacrine for estro control
Ginsing and mucana puriens for prolactin
POST CYCLE (For libido and liver detox and aditional estrogen supression)
BIG BLAST (To maintain size)
Extra vitamin C and magnesium
VIGOR (To replace blood volume lost when off the gear)
For Cutters do everything the same except...
Substitute BIG BLAST with a low cal protein mixed with water.
Take AMP02 proir to workouts.
Use ZIP thoroughout (ZIP also helps with "lean bulking")
Try Hoodia to keep appitite under control
Use BIG BLAST PC but mixed with water.
Extra potassium
While on,
BIG BLAST mixed with Half and Half (Protein, creatine NO2 Spray dried plasma protein)
CytogenX (Keeps estro under control)
A second protein source. (MRP)
UNLEASHED (To make the most T unbound)
Policostinol (To maintain HDL)
Additional Omega 3's
A good multi (Obviously recommend DX7)
DEFINITION (To elliminate bloat)
For PCT
MyogenX
Continue UNLEASHED to restore as much T as possible
Dermacrine for estro control
Ginsing and mucana puriens for prolactin
POST CYCLE (For libido and liver detox and aditional estrogen supression)
BIG BLAST (To maintain size)
Extra vitamin C and magnesium
VIGOR (To replace blood volume lost when off the gear)
For Cutters do everything the same except...
Substitute BIG BLAST with a low cal protein mixed with water.
Take AMP02 proir to workouts.
Use ZIP thoroughout (ZIP also helps with "lean bulking")
Try Hoodia to keep appitite under control
Use BIG BLAST PC but mixed with water.
Extra potassium
needtogetaas
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Nelson Montana said:
good post.lol
needtogetaas said:good post.lol
LOL. Actually, the ginsing and mucana would make a nice prolactin supp. I presented a formula to PF but they felt prolactin lowering was too obscure of a goal -- only a select few would understand it. With all the risky L-dopa crap people are taking they could probably keep prolactin under 10 with these 2 supps and maybe some S-ame.
Can I get bovine super plasma protein put into caps?
That'd make a great thing to carry around in the gym bag or knapsack to pop all day long.needtogetaas
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were adding new stuff to the list all the time bro.is this something you would like to see on the list.lolNelson Montana said:LOL. Actually, the ginsing and mucana would make a nice prolactin supp. I presented a formula to PF but they felt prolactin lowering was too obscure of a goal -- only a select few would understand it. With all the risky L-dopa crap people are taking they could probably keep prolactin under 10 with these 2 supps and maybe some S-ame.
Can I get bovine super plasma protein put into caps?
pf has deferent things in mind as long as we all cover every aspect od the gae its all good.its good to have so many sponsors working on all kinds of things.working together we got everything covers and the things we dont we will
needtogetaas
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pycnogenol looking into it right now brokrbn08 said:
