when using FINA or DECA , can WINNY replace the dostinex ?

[VictorBR]

I mean can winny be used to lower prolacting levels , instead of dostinex ?

I am curious about this one .

I will be using Fina on my next cycle and was already about to buy the dostinex to use it with fina , but I have totally forgot that winny can lower prolactin levels .

So , can winny do the job ?


Victor

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Yes, 50mg EOD

 

[VictorBR]

Yes, 50mg EOD

>>> thanks , but are you sure it is AS effective AS dostinex ? I heard that dostinex is VERY GOOD STUFF .


Victor

 

[strongsmartsexy]

>>> thanks , but are you sure it is AS effective AS dostinex ? I heard that dostinex is VERY GOOD STUFF .


Victor

It's not only effective it's cheaper. If you do some searches you'll find out more from other sources, including drjmw. Dostinex is the expensive way to do what winny can do.

 

[VictorBR]

thx bro

K to you .

can anyone confirm this ? DRJMW ? ULTER ? FONZ ? MACRO ? HUCK ? VETS ? MODS ?

Victor

 

[Silent Method]

^

 

[juicedbeachbum]

I've never seen any studies proving that winny actually lowers prolactin (Please if you have them post them), but the only drugs used in medicine for high prolactin are bromo and dostinex. Even if it does, I doubt it's nearly as effective.

 

[VeteranNewbie88]

I've never seen any studies proving that winny actually lowers prolactin (Please if you have them post them), but the only drugs used in medicine for high prolactin are bromo and dostinex. Even if it does, I doubt it's nearly as effective.

Correct...Winny can be used and be somewhat effective, but not NEARLY as reliable or as strong at blocking prolactin as Bromo or ESPECIALLY Dostinex....

 

[Smokescreen]

Dostinex or Bromo is to lower prolactin levels. Winny on the other hand is to lower progesterone side effects of Tren. You got it all backwards.

 

[Redux]

thx bro

K to you .

can anyone confirm this ? DRJMW ? ULTER ? FONZ ? MACRO ? HUCK ? VETS ? MODS ?

Victor

Uh, not tying to flame here, bro, but SSS is certainly qualified to give you the answer he did.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

Dostinex or Bromo is to lower prolactin levels. Winny on the other hand is to lower progesterone side effects of Tren. You got it all backwards.

You're correct, I was thinking progesterone instead of prolactin. Winny is used for progesterone and cabaser/dostinex/bromo for prolactin.

 

[Smokescreen]

Yeap!

 

[VictorBR]

thx guys .

It is all clear now .

So , I am not really in the mood for blood tests every week , so I will play in the safe side here . When using fina on my next cycle I am gonna run the dostinex AND the winny . Better safe than sorry .

My question is , how much winny is needed to prevent high progesterone levels ?


Victor

 

[strongsmartsexy]

thx guys .

It is all clear now .

So , I am not really in the mood for blood tests every week , so I will play in the safe side here . When using fina on my next cycle I am gonna run the dostinex AND the winny . Better safe than sorry .

My question is , how much winny is needed to prevent high progesterone levels ?


Victor

I believe injecting winny at 50mg EOD should do it.

 

[VictorBR]

I believe injecting winny at 50mg EOD should do it.

thx bro


Victor

 

[Smokescreen]

yeap 50 eod. ED is better of course...but eod will do

 

[Nighthawkk]

I've never seen any studies proving that winny actually lowers prolactin (Please if you have them post them), but the only drugs used in medicine for high prolactin are bromo and dostinex. Even if it does, I doubt it's nearly as effective.

Winny doesn't lower prolactin, I believe it competes for the progesterone receptor thus blocking some of the negative effects of tren or deca. This is theory right now, I have yet to see studies done on the effects of stanazolol on circulating prolactin or progesterone.

 

[CLOMIDCLOWN]

This is theory right now, I have yet to see studies done on the effects of stanazolol on circulating prolactin or progesterone.

BINGO! GIve this man some Karma!

 

[Smokescreen]

Back in the old days that was the ultimate cutting drugs. Fina and Winstrol aka finaject.

 

[VictorBR]

clomidclown - you avatar is the shit .


Victor

 

[VeteranNewbie88]

Winny doesn't lower prolactin, I believe it competes for the progesterone receptor thus blocking some of the negative effects of tren or deca. This is theory right now, I have yet to see studies done on the effects of stanazolol on circulating prolactin or progesterone.

Indeed you are right..I stand corrected...

 

[einstein1905]

The prgestins don't mediate their sides solely through the progesterone receptor, so antagonizing the PR via DHT-like compounds is inefficient/incomplete. The progestins, tren and nandrolone (and likely anadrol), have a anti-glucocorticoid activity. using them reduces endogenous cortisol production, and this is what causes a rise in prolactin levels. prolactin is anti-dopaminergic. however, test and DHT are pro-dopaminergic, so that's why using test with any of the progestins is recommended. Still, using a dopamine receptor agaonist like cabergoline is a good idea, as long as you're not lowering prolactin below reference ranges.

Additionally, the progestins can upregulate ER expression, so this is another indirect way that they mediate gyno formation. Using nolva can help but may not be sufficient.

Proviron would be a good AI to use during a progestin + test cycle, because Proviron is 1-methyl DHT, so has inherent anti progesterone abilities....it'll also act as an AI....it's also an androgen, so will reduce SHBG levels and increase bioavailable AAS %'s. Proviron + nolva + a low dose cabergoline regimen would be ideal IMO.