Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I have read differing opinions on this. I have choosen to run it AFTER my cycle is over for 10 days straight however, should I wait for my Sustanon esters to clear 15 days after my last inject or start the day after my last inject? Waiting for the ester to clear seems to make more sense to me. Whatever you got fellas, any and all will be appreciated. Nelson and Omega feel free to chime in... Gratci...
When To Start H.C.G. Post Cycle?
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BigJarHead13
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beenieman said:
Well I was always told to run it during and right up to PCT - post cycle therapy - , but I think you should run it now, and right when the sustanon clears cease using it, or if you continue to use it that's fine, but I think HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - can suppress your own natty test from what I've read. Either way, I think you're supposed to use Clomid/Novla after the HCG clears and after all steroid esters clear. But hey, that's just my 2 cc's
holy ghost
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that will be plenty for your cycle bro
needto is great with this shit
needto is great with this shit
holy ghost
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you were on just sust?
derma and nolva will be fine
derma and nolva will be fine
holy ghost
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I cant even see my fucking nuts these days
thats what i get for not carrying any HCG and running grams of each compound
I would save it bro HONESTLY
so you got your next one planned for after new years? lets hear it broski
for some reason you remind me of swizz beats you kno who he is ?
thats what i get for not carrying any HCG and running grams of each compound
I would save it bro HONESTLY
so you got your next one planned for after new years? lets hear it broski
for some reason you remind me of swizz beats you kno who he is ?
holy ghost said:
Yeah bro, swizz is my nigga....
This is my fav, reppin NYC always....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyVjzrS2P3g
I'm still getting my cycle together for next year. I'll keep ya posted.. I'm more worried about keeping what I got now, I've put on a ton of mass, needto keep it...
needtogetaas
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ya i was thinking the same..if your nuts have shrunk its prob bestt to run the hcg...then dermacrine sustainxrsist said:
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fitwitlem
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man, i started my hcg 2 weeks after last shot of sust. for the 1st week and a half i still felt like my blood levels were high, so i waited till 2 weeks and did 10 days straight wit some clomd. but i was also on eq, tren, and winny during my full run and dropping each compund at certain times to end up with just sust for last month and then pct like said. depends on you and your body reaction 2. just dont take to much hcg, cause it can reverse the effect. good luck.
PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - gold:
1)
7 day after last shot start:
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - - @ 2000iu e4d for about 3 shots
Run with an aromatase inhibitor
2)
AFTER you stop HCG -
- -START = Clomid at 50 mgs ED
Use and aromatase inhibitor with Clomid , run both for 3-4 weeks
3)
G-covery, Glutamine or BCAAS' at 2 servings day for Anticatabolic/ immune system
Raw MCC at 1 serving a day for Phosphate and Magnesium Loading
Amplify02 Prewokout, but keep workouts brief till you recover
1)
7 day after last shot start:
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - - @ 2000iu e4d for about 3 shots
Run with an aromatase inhibitor
2)
AFTER you stop HCG -
- -START = Clomid at 50 mgs ED
Use and aromatase inhibitor with Clomid , run both for 3-4 weeks
3)
G-covery, Glutamine or BCAAS' at 2 servings day for Anticatabolic/ immune system
Raw MCC at 1 serving a day for Phosphate and Magnesium Loading
Amplify02 Prewokout, but keep workouts brief till you recover
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fitwitlem
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i kinda did how omega said. like i said i waited 2 weeks only just judging on how i felt with my body as far as staring (crash), tired unmotivated, etc. then h c g 500iu for 3 days, and then 1000iu for 7 days. also started clomid at 50mg ed 3 days b4 ending h c g for about 3 weeks to a month. ran a-dex through all of it. and i always take bcaa's anyway. so kinda like omegas saying just varying a little. but it works well 4 me and you got to judge how your feeling and your body and symptoms. too much h cg is bad and 4 to long.oh yeah i had some Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 2 just in case and even ate a few of them.(not much though) hope this helps you bro!!!
Thank you fellas. A lot to consider. I'm defenitely going to wait a week or so then start. As far as the dosage I'm a little skeptic considering I've done 400 mg's of sust for 12 weeeks. Not a monster by an means. I have Nolva and Ferma with Derma on hand so I'm set in that regard and yes, I need to restock on Amp, I'm getting low. Just hope to recover quickly. I have had NO SIDES to speak of. I stopped running an AI in week 5 due to joint issues and have had no signs of gyno at all. Hope recovery goes as well as the cycle did. I'll keep you posted....
enacer420nj
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OMEGA said:
Dont you think 500iu ED for 10 days is better than 2,000iu E4D seems like alot of HC.G at once, no?
bsdgeek
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dude, my doc, who juices, told me to hit it at the first half life of your a.as, so if i'm doin test cyp(500 mg/wk), and my last injection in on friday, then I'd start two weeks later on friday(it's actually 12 days, but for simplicity i'm doin it on friday). I'd hit the hcg at 3-5000 ius on friday, then 3 days later hit 2-2500 ius(repeat 3 times- 4@2-2500), then one last inject @ 1250. start clomid with first inject, do clomid 100 mg ed for 3 wks, then drop to 50 mg/wk for 2 wks., this is from his book(anabolics 2004). you can reduce or increase as necessary, this is just a recommended guideline he gave me. For your cycle, you probably only need the hcg, start it about 2 weeks after your last pin. again, this is from my doc, and it's assuming you're coming off for a while, if you're going back on in a month or three, just use the hcg only. just my 2
bsdgeek
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doogle said:
brotha man, if you take it the day after a pin, by the time the test clears your system, the hcg will be gone too, rendering it useless. the time to pin is starting at the half life of your poison. if its test cyp, it's 12 days. so at 12 days you'd have half the amount of your pin still in your system. so- if you do 500 mg on your last pin, 12 days later, you'd have the equivelent of 250 still in your system, which according to what i've read on here(some posts), you'd be stopping the hcg about this time. when this happened, you system would still have too much t, and it'd shut em down again. that's why they say start at the half life, that way by the time the t clears (4 - 6 weeks after your last pin), your shits pumping on it's on, like you never missed a beat
bsdgeek said:brotha man, if you take it the day after a pin, by the time the test clears your system, the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - will be gone too, rendering it useless. the time to pin is starting at the half life of your poison. if its test testosterone cypionate, it's 12 days. so at 12 days you'd have half the amount of your pin still in your system. so- if you do 500 mg on your last pin, 12 days later, you'd have the equivelent of 250 still in your system, which according to what i've read on here(some posts), you'd be stopping the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - about this time. when this happened, you system would still have too much t, and it'd shut em down again. that's why they say start at the half life, that way by the time the t clears (4 - 6 weeks after your last pin), your shits pumping on it's on, like you never missed a beat
i disagree bro, you know you can use h c g during a cycle..
bsdgeek
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xrsist said:
x-man, come on bro-man, he's talking post cycle
(ie- the topic title) anyway, if he was talking about using it while on, i couldn't shed any light. i don't know that protocol, never used that large of a cycle, or that long of a cycle, and never really plan to. just my 2 broon another topic - if i get plane tickets to down under, you gonna give me the tour? dude, when i was in the corps(USMC 88-92), that was the one place i really wanted to go. you guys have some beautiful women there! later bro!
bsdgeek said:x-man, come on bro-man, he's talking post cycle
on another topic - if i get plane tickets to down under, you gonna give me the tour? dude, when i was in the corps(USMC 88-92), that was the one place i really wanted to go. you guys have some beautiful women there! later bro!
iv used it the day after last shot of test for 10 days and never had any problems so do many of other bros but its different for all people as we know.
haha yer bro ill point you in the right direction to find the best 24 hour clubs and the best women. yer gota love the women here especially up on the gold coast bro im heading there this weekend for indy. cheers bro
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