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When are you "big enough"?

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IRL

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Hello guys,

After many years of training...I am trying to figure out what the general mentality is within our world in the gym. :)

At what size do you all consider "big", or at which point do you not want to grow no more?? What would you consider small arms as apposed to big arms..and huge arms?

For example...when I started working out, I was weighing 135lbs height 5"11. At first my goal was to reach 150lbs. When I was at 150, I said...damn, no difference, I want atleast 165lbs. Well that came and went and I shot for 180lbs. After everything I am sitting at 205, and I still look at myself and feel small. Now I am aiming at 225lbs, when I get there...I know my mentality will change and say, "let put a couple more on" :)

Is training this addictive...or will I ever reach my "perfect self" as I would like?

What have your experiences been like with regards to achieving weight goals etc?
 
IRL said:
Hello guys,

After many years of training...I am trying to figure out what the general mentality is within our world in the gym. :)

At what size do you all consider "big", or at which point do you not want to grow no more?? What would you consider small arms as apposed to big arms..and huge arms?

For example...when I started working out, I was weighing 135lbs height 5"11. At first my goal was to reach 150lbs. When I was at 150, I said...damn, no difference, I want atleast 165lbs. Well that came and went and I shot for 180lbs. After everything I am sitting at 205, and I still look at myself and feel small. Now I am aiming at 225lbs, when I get there...I know my mentality will change and say, "let put a couple more on" :)

Is training this addictive...or will I ever reach my "perfect self" as I would like?

What have your experiences been like with regards to achieving weight goals etc?
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the answer to your question is very simple.....

NEVER


look up a thing called "muscle dysmorphia" and you will understand...welcome to the club!
 
depends on your goals..once i reach my optimal size which right now im thinking is 30lbs of muscle away ( im sure when i get there illthink im small) i would just look to increase my totals and if i gained added size from training my lifts thats fine..

I know not everyone likes ronnie coleman but has he sat on his physique? each olympia he comes in bigger more ripped!!
 
I would like to put on about 30 lbs of muscle and get down to 10% BF or so, then I will be satisfied.

It would be nice to do this without AAS but I think I'm kidding myself, seems like I am going to be reaching my genetic limit in a couple years.
 
Illuminati said:
the answer to your question is very simple.....

NEVER


look up a thing called "muscle dysmorphia" and you will understand...welcome to the club!
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Wow, I never realized there was such a thing as muscle dysmorphia. You could essentially claim that all body builders fall into that category! Allthough after reading: http://www.anred.com/musdys.html I have none of the "Consequences"...so I guess I am in the clear! :) Time to hit the gym...twice as hard as usuall.. haha
 
everyone bigger than me is big, everyone smaller is the same size :\

even tho some of my friends say im big, i dont think ill ever be big enough...they say bodybuilders are disgusting and when i first started i used to look at pics of bbers and make fun of em for being nasty but now that looks normal too me
 
im in the same boat as all of you....you can never be too big. So what are ya'll going to do when you reach that genetic potential? This is something ive been wondering as ive gotten older
 
Probably right after I'm strong enough....lol. It is a game that I like to play...

If you are in a race, even if you are in the lead you can never stop for a rest because everyone behind you will pass you by.

I'm just hoping that several in front of me will stop for a breath.

B True
 
The day I step on the scale at it reads 245, and that same day I have my bf% checked and it's sub 6%......I will look in the mirror and swear to God say "I'M SATISFIED"









until tomorrow...........
 
JKurz1 said:
The day I step on the scale at it reads 245, and that same day I have my bf% checked and it's sub 6%......I will look in the mirror and swear to God say "I'M SATISFIED"









until tomorrow...........
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LOL Its so true. When I was 139 pds (same height) I swear i'd be happy at 160.... now here a am at 200... jeesh, when does it stop lol.
 
JKurz1 said:
The day I step on the scale at it reads 245, and that same day I have my bf% checked and it's sub 6%......I will look in the mirror and swear to God say "I'M SATISFIED"









until tomorrow...........
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you think you could maintain sub 6% easily..i hear ya on the whole thing reach your size then look to be ripped..me i would think 10% and a little below would be fairly easy to maintain
 
bigstve12 said:
im in the same boat as all of you....you can never be too big. So what are ya'll going to do when you reach that genetic potential? This is something ive been wondering as ive gotten older
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im jw.

is genetic potential theory or fact
 
IRL said:
Wow, I never realized there was such a thing as muscle dysmorphia. You could essentially claim that all body builders fall into that category! Allthough after reading: http://www.anred.com/musdys.html I have none of the "Consequences"...so I guess I am in the clear! :) Time to hit the gym...twice as hard as usuall.. haha
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you have none of the consequences or symptoms? answer this question, how often do you weigh yourself? did you just say everyday? whether you want to admit it, you are preoccuppied with your size. you talked in your first post about how you kept setting goals for hitting a certain weight, and that every time you got to the goal, you wanted another 20lbs. that's an indicator there. read this article:
http://www.addictions.net/default.aspx?id=33



on a side note, IMO the jump from 205 to 225 is by far the harderst jump in weight that i have ever made. it took me almost 2 years. but when i got there, i realized that i didn't carry the weight, and look as good as i had when i was closer to 200. so i dropped almost 10lbs. im at 215 right now, but still want to get back to 225, but be able to carry the weight better (with a lower BF%)
 
If you lift a litlle seriously and for some time you'll fall in one of those 2 conditions :

  • Narcissism
  • Body disphormia
 
Illuminati said:
you have none of the consequences or symptoms? answer this question, how often do you weigh yourself? did you just say everyday? whether you want to admit it, you are preoccuppied with your size. you talked in your first post about how you kept setting goals for hitting a certain weight, and that every time you got to the goal, you wanted another 20lbs. that's an indicator there. read this article:
http://www.addictions.net/default.aspx?id=33



on a side note, IMO the jump from 205 to 225 is by far the harderst jump in weight that i have ever made. it took me almost 2 years. but when i got there, i realized that i didn't carry the weight, and look as good as i had when i was closer to 200. so i dropped almost 10lbs. im at 215 right now, but still want to get back to 225, but be able to carry the weight better (with a lower BF%)
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I weigh myself every single fuckin day. I think I'm nuts. I look in the mirror everyday and bb is on my mind all the time. Am I nuts or is everyone like me?!
 
yomama said:
I weigh myself every single fuckin day. I think I'm nuts. I look in the mirror everyday and bb is on my mind all the time. Am I nuts or is everyone like me?!
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yeah.

whether or not i had a good day, and how i feel untill my next workout is dictated by the workout i had.

i think walkingbeast is the same way, and im sure alot of people are(nuts that is)
 
yomama said:
I weigh myself every single fuckin day. I think I'm nuts. I look in the mirror everyday and bb is on my mind all the time. Am I nuts or is everyone like me?!
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i used to weigh myself everyday, sometimes twice. but i finally worked myself out of it, and i only weigh myself once a week now. yeah, i know, that statement sounds retarded, but it's such a hard habit to break.
 
SublimeZM said:
yeah.

whether or not i had a good day, and how i feel untill my next workout is dictated by the workout i had.

i think walkingbeast is the same way, and im sure alot of people are(nuts that is)
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You'd better see a shrink ;)

I don't know any other sport where people go that far (dietting or eating huge amount of food, putting needles in the ass, lifting 10 times your bodyweight, etc)
 
Illuminati said:
you have none of the consequences or symptoms? answer this question, how often do you weigh yourself? did you just say everyday? whether you want to admit it, you are preoccuppied with your size. you talked in your first post about how you kept setting goals for hitting a certain weight, and that every time you got to the goal, you wanted another 20lbs. that's an indicator there. read this article:
http://www.addictions.net/default.aspx?id=33



on a side note, IMO the jump from 205 to 225 is by far the harderst jump in weight that i have ever made. it took me almost 2 years. but when i got there, i realized that i didn't carry the weight, and look as good as i had when i was closer to 200. so i dropped almost 10lbs. im at 215 right now, but still want to get back to 225, but be able to carry the weight better (with a lower BF%)
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I guess you could say I am pre-occupied with the way I look...perhaps because I was skinny for so damn long, first 20years of my life. I was always called the normal skinny boy names..yet now that I am finally growing...I start comparing myself to waaay to many people...hence I want to work out more, and gain that much more.

As for weighing myself...about once every 2 weeks...I have no scale at home, there isnt even a scale at my gym! When I head over to the farmacy I pay to jump on their digital scale... ;)

I know it will be hard to put on another 20lbs at 205...but it gives me a solid goal for the year to come, hopefully I can gain the weight...and maintain a low BF.
 
I think i'm pretty realistic with how I look and how I want to look. I think another 15-20 pounds would be all I could handle
 
Its the journey.. not the destination...

I love everything it takes to try to achieve perfection... I don't know if i will ever really be satisfied.. and if i am.. i will be upset.. because i dont want the journey to end...
 
Size wise, anywhere between 215 and 240lbs at 10% BF with 18.5-19" arms cold, 52" chest, waist 35", forearm 14.5", thigh 28-29", calf 17.5", neck 19".

Ya, I'd be happy with that.
 
At which point do you not want to grow no more??

Is training this addictive...or will I ever reach my "perfect self" as I would like?

What have your experiences been like with regards to achieving weight goals etc ?
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To answer the first question: on my last breath of life when it's time to go the big squat rack in the sky.

To answer #2: it's a lifestyle, not a fad ma'man, every day you lift you get bigger.. stronger.. etc.. so to attain perfection, see the answer to question #1.

And to answer the last question: my experiences have been awesome, if not i'd be doin' something else besides dedicating my entire life to the iron and the preserverence of longevity.. you never stop learning, you never stop growing.. knowledge is king...............................Ez!



"NW"
 
Its funny to look back over the last 10 years of training. I remember when I would tell myself 16" would atleast be respectable. Starting with 10" arms I was just trying to get to a normal size first. (10" is just an estimate since I was 105-115lbs at 5'8) And that took some years. Though my strength was WAY above my size in no time. I was racking all the machines before long and weighing 145lbs. I attribute it to my mental state and adrenaline. I was and am a traumatized motherfucker! haha I also trained ALL day long. I would get dropped off at the gym and left there in the beginning. Then later I biked to the gym 7 miles each way. I dropped out of HS when I was 15 so all I did was train. When I was 16-17 I moved furniture as well and biked to the gym. I had some major setbacks along the way, but Ive been training close to 10 straight years. In over 8 years the most I ever missed from training was a week. That wasnt intentional. Then way after that the back injury put me out for a month. But thats it in close to 10 years. Even when I got into a near fatal car wreck at 19, I was in the gym the next day, knees all swollen, bicep feeling torn and training heavy. Then after 4+ years training, when I finally hit 16" I felt like shit. I saw housewives as being larger then me. My mind fucks with me constantly. It is getting somewhat better. Now I just see myself as fat,smooth and small. haha But its nice to see 18.5" on the tape and 400 closing in on the bench. I have a LONG way to go, but I feel the work is starting to pay off atleast. Then I told myself 18" would be "respectable". I admired Tyson's build at the time, cuz the dude looked brutal in the ring. Especially during the Holifield fight when he bit his ear off. That was classic shit. haha I always wanted to get bigger then that, but I told myself if I reached Tyson's size Id atleast be respectable. Then I heard he only had 16" arms though Im not sure on the truth of it. Now that Ive surpassed 18", I tell myself 20" will be respectable. Not huge, but respectable. Itll never end. I can look at someone a good deal smaller then me and Ill see them as being bigger then me. It can make me fucking agressive too. I have that cornered animal mentality 24/7. Training around my uncle who had 23" arms at 280 and 12% bodyfat, tattooed up also put things into perspective for me. Ive been humbled more times then I can count. Due to my stomache Ive also delt with brutal physical pain. Sometimes for 6+ hour stretches, and once for 10 hours straight. Life became a waking nightmare. A 24/7 panic attack. I cant count how many times Ive begged god for mercy. Due to my nerves I cant do much else without getting sick. So all I do is train. All my rage has eaten up my insides over the years. These are some of the reasons why Ill TRAIN all out until Im dead. Aslong as I can remember I was taunted on a daily basis, fucked with constantly and spit on. haha Something snapped in my brain. haha Heres a picture from when I was 16 I believe. About 160lbs with 14" arms:

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KEEP KILLING THAT SHIT!!
 
YES YOU ARE UNIQUE!

However, you can be an inspiration for many too.

I know that i dont want to get so big that my arms are pulled forward and I look hunched over because i am so so big. I have a guy who stops into the bar i babysit (bounce) at and looks just like this; he cant be more than about 5'5" and has to weigh about 250-60 or so.
 
cwick0 said:
YES YOU ARE UNIQUE!

However, you can be an inspiration for many too.

I know that i dont want to get so big that my arms are pulled forward and I look hunched over because i am so so big. I have a guy who stops into the bar i babysit (bounce) at and looks just like this; he cant be more than about 5'5" and has to weigh about 250-60 or so.
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ThanX for the kind words brother!! I still want to be disgustingly large. I want my overall appearence to cause people to shit themselves. Then Im closer to my goals. :FRlol: :FRlol: I also want the strength to back it up though. 260 at 5'5 is massive. Keep KILLING that shit brother!!
 
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