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whats your experience with british dragon? underdosed?

Shinobi said:
A friend of mine from England called me today saying that British Dragon products its way underdosed... I know some lab tests are around the internet but who knows if they are real?!? Do u think Pros BB use BD? uhm I dont think so. Actually Im using BD Trenabol and I dont like it very much and the same goes for their Test prop. What u guys think?

I am from the UK, and many people I know feel that a lot of BD stuff is underdosed, and a few have also had sterility issues. I dont use BD as I do not trust it, and lots of others are moving away from it.

I feel a lot of the lab reports are posted with an agenda, no offence to the gunuine people who post for our info.

The pain most people get from their prop is enough to make me question their quality, as it is not a necessary for test prop to be painful.
 
Nytol2 said:
I am from the UK, and many people I know feel that a lot of BD stuff is underdosed, and a few have also had sterility issues. I dont use BD as I do not trust it, and lots of others are moving away from it.
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They make their stuff in china, so quality control issues are going to come up - I'm not surprised.

AB 06 had some results that weren't good I heard, but I have some lab tests I gotta pull up. Done by meso-rx, some products were over and some were under the label claim.
 
chinese pharmaceutical manufacturing is first world or comparable. The raw materials, at least on established protocol chemicals, are good. its not really profitable to short change on most AAS (since the raws are cheap).

Most of the complaints about BD are packaging and use of inconsistent oils- not using a single oil producer.

the sad thing is that those are two very easily remedied issues and are low cost to achieve the highest standard. though as mentioned before packaging is a place where many pharma are just as bad. Wonky amps that crack and dont "pop", bad stoppers, low grade crimps, etc...etc...

its a bad place to skimp (but when you have a cornered market the public has to take it- most prescription drugs are poorly packaged (because there is no impetus or compulsion to do otherwise- you have to buy what they sell- or the insurance companies do)
 
While I agree that raw materials in china are fairly consistent from the big manufacturers, I can't say China is comparable to 1st world manufacturers of AS. A lot of people who haven't been to china do a lot of assuming in terms of conditions and mind set in china. Chinese will skimp on the smallest things just to save a penny, even if they shave 10% from the product and save a few thousand US, they will be happy. It is VERY odd for western business ideals to skimp and save a $100 on a $100,000 project - possibly lose future business, but the Chinese think differently. Especially when they have the upper hand, they will take advantage of almost any situation.

I prefer not to do this, but here is an example. I had jackets produced in china, the manufacturer did a great sample run, but when the final jackets were released, they skimped on the threads – I know it sounds crazy – so the jackets would fall apart within a month or two. Turns out they saved 4 yuan (RMB) per jacket by doing this, that’s about 50cents US. So, don’t overestimate China, at least not yet.
 
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