What's The Cheapest Source For Ala On The Planet?

[kbrkbr]

ulter, I like to support your site but there are places that I can buy R-ala and R-ala powder for much cheaper. I know you were one of the first to come out which explains the price but do you see it coming down in the near future?

Johnboy, can you post a link to cheaper sources for r-ala. Always looking for a bargain. I don't mind powder. Thanks.

 

[young guns]

Iceman has some nice prices, but his recommended dosages would require I spend just as much to match what I'm taking in r-ALA now, so I'd not save any money over the long haul.

how much r-ala are you taking a day and how much of Iceman's would you take. At .20 a 500mg cap 3/day (1500 mg/day), it'd be half of what it would cost to take 600 mg of r-ala, which macro said it the minimum needed for it to be effective. i would think 1500 mg would be enough, but i'm not sure on that. according to Fonz's study, r-ala is only 3x more potent, so I guess 2g of regular ala would be needed to match 600mg of r-ala. even then, that's still cheaper.

i am thinkin of ordering some of each, that way i can get high levels of ala with more of it being in the r form, in a more cost effective way. i just don't think i can swing $20 every couple weeks on ala.

 

[Baby Gorilla]

Doses....

how much r-ala are you taking a day and how much of Iceman's would you take.

I didn't save the math I did back then, but....

I take 2 r-ALA capsules for 60-150 carb gram meals. 3 capsules for over 150. I may be taking less than I should, but I do that so a bottle lasts a consistent rate. I use 10 r-ALA capsules per day (1 g / day). I'm on 3,500-4,000 cal/day right now.

 

[young guns]

i definitely couldn't afford buying a bottle of r-ala every 10 days

if i were to combine r-ala and racemic ala, how would this sound for the dosages. 100mg r-ala + 500mg racemic for the lower carb meals (under 120g), and for the high carb meals 200mg r-ala + 500g racemic (over 120g)? i'd be looking at 400mg r-ala and 1500mg s/r-ala per day, only takin it 3x a day (breakfast, lunch, post workout; any other meals are usually lower carb meals)

also, whats' the minimum amout of carbs (general estimate) i should ingest to make sure i wouldn't go hypoglycemic with these doses?

 

[SeekerOfKnowledge]

Okay...
what's the major difference between

ALA
GLA
r-ALA
R-ALA

and which is the one you guys recommend buying?

 

[young guns]

ALA is the typical alpha lipoic acid you'll find most companies selling, it contains a racemic mixture of both the R and S enantiomers. enantiomers differ only in how the groups of that molecule are arranged around a central carbon atom. in the body, the difference in arrangement can mean many different properties.

there's a bunch of studies that have been posted in the boards that explain the differences between the two enantiomers in the body. do a search for ALA, and check the sticky in the supplements forum, and you'll see what i mean.

as for which to take, it's really up to you. R-ALA is probably the better choice, but many still recommend racemic ALA since it's more cost effective in most cases.

as for GLA, it's gamma linolenic acid, a fatty acid that is completely different from ALA. it has alot of benefits. the most noted is probably using it for healthy skin. i believe it also has some effect on glucose uptake, which would explain why some people combine it with ALA. someone else will have to explain that further.

also, occasionally, you'll see alpha linolenic acid abbreviated ALA. it's an essential omega-3 fatty acid, totally different from alpha lipoic acid. on these boards, i think it's safe to assume that when someone is talkin about ALA they mean alpha lipoic acid.

 

[SeekerOfKnowledge]

What about CLA? And is this just for cutting or mass. I am looking towards cutting but building lean muscle mass