What's So Confusing?

[Nelson Montana]

Maybe it's me...I seem to seeing a rash of posts asking the same type of question. And it's the most inane question I can think of.

People are asking for opinions on cycles that have no rhyme or reason. It's just a bunch of shit thrown together. Someone wants to know if they should that 700 mgs of deca or 750 mgs. They want to know if they should add some Tren to their 1500 mg a week cycle. They ask if it's better to do 50 mgs of var and 50 mgs of winny or should it be 60 mgs of var and 40 mgs of winny.

It's all bullshit. Why? Because both the questions and the potential answers are completely arbitrary. Anybody can say anything. Anyone can have an opinion. But they might as well be asking, "Should I wear a blue or green tank top?" " When I stop for gas should I go to Exxon or Shell?" "Should I get $20 worh of gas or fill it up?" "Should I get the chocolate protein shale or the vanilla?"

In other words, you might get dozens of opinions. But it doesn't make one bit of difference either way.

Now, when I try to say this, I sometimes get the response of "Hey, if you can't help, why bothering to post?!" Well...I am helping. And here's how...

The next time someone wants to know which is the better cycle, ask them WHY they think one is better than the other. Ask them WHAT they expect to derive from choice A and choice B. Ask them HOW they believe something is going to affect them. In that way, answers can be more informative and everyone gets a sense of where the OP is coming from.

My guess is 5 times out of 10, they haven't got a fucking clue -- in which case, why are we splitting hairs? Let's let newbies know that we're not playing video games here. This is serious shit. Please treat it as such.

 

[stevesmi]

good point.. i think if anything guys are just looking for re-assurance.

i agree that its not gonna make a lick of difference if you run 1.5g of juice or 2 grams of juice, its gonna come down to sleep, diet, training, and stress on cycle. my worst cycles are the ones i fail to get sleep or i am stressed, i've gotten better results from low dose cycles where i haven't had distractions.

 

[EZ_E]

100% agreed....too reckless, too inexperienced, too too too much attitude here lately

 

[TheSVPdeal]

100% agreed....too reckless, too inexperienced, too too too much attitude here lately

I feel the same.

 

[Mh48500]

Most of the time I doubt people are actually even asking for help. They post their question, get input, and then turnaround and post that in the end they decided to do it their way.

Like Steve says many maybe are just looking to be reassured, but damn there are a lot of people that just seem like no matter what the mods do to try end educate them or enlighten them....they just dont care!

 

[thedarkhalf]

Nelson you hit the nail on the head with this post!!

 

[jcnuts]

Very true. Seems to be getting worse.

~ JohnyCoolNuts ~

 

[noodles1010]

i agree... this must be the stupidity wave happening. we are good for 3 a year around here, you guys know that. lol

 

[EYEWTKAS]

More Steroids, Less Hard work. duh

 

[Flip Digler]

You know I came to this forum with very lil experience , thinking I knew what Steriods do , I would read about one kind of drug and think " I want to try this one ", then read about another and say " no this is the one " over and over and one day I had ask "what if "to many times and I think Steve told me " man your all over the place and I needed to stop and slow the fuck down " thanks Steve ! in the time between then and now I have researched and read post and ask questions , even if I sound stupid , IDK , and I found a mentor that has helped but only if I do it right and start with blood work . I have watched all of Dylan's videos , read all of AnalogMans blogs " highly recomended " to all newbs , I think the blogs and videos should be on a sticky , labeled " before you ask about your cycle , watch and read this !" Your right , we don't realize the seriousness of what were getting into ! Dylan's right it is marathon and not a race . Thx guys !


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[stevesmi]

You know I came to this forum with very lil experience , thinking I knew what Steriods do , I would read about one kind of drug and think " I want to try this one ", then read about another and say " no this is the one " over and over and one day I had ask "what if "to many times and I think Steve told me " man your all over the place and I needed to stop and slow the fuck down " thanks Steve ! in the time between then and now I have researched and read post and ask questions , even if I sound stupid , IDK , and I found a mentor that has helped but only if I do it right and start with blood work . I have watched all of Dylan's videos , read all of AnalogMans blogs " highly recomended " to all newbs , I think the blogs and videos should be on a sticky , labeled " before you ask about your cycle , watch and read this !" Your right , we don't realize the seriousness of what were getting into ! Dylan's right it is marathon and not a race . Thx guys !


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i will tell you I'm the same way.. when i want to do something I research it from A to Z thoroughly.. i remember before i ran tren I read every piece of literature i could about the compound, every study.. looked at logs.. learned from mistakes of others.

its like guys are making gumbo and just throwing in a bunch of things into a pot and seeing what happens instead of analyzing everything step by step.

 

[Jigga14]

But mister Montana can you plz tell me how much more gains I achieve if I run one gram of deca with testosterone or without. Help me plz just want a good cycle i have Nolva for pct.

Haha JK! Love the work you put in Nelson, agree with your post. Noobs be mirin.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

100% agreed....too reckless, too inexperienced, too too too much attitude here lately

And another thing....I'm really fucking tired of these noob fuck sticks asking for reviews on a FIRST cycle with deca only. Or 600-750mg test. Or 80-100mg of var ED. Are you fucking serious?
Why was 250-300mg of test a killer first cycle 15-20 years ago but now its less than half of whats expected? 500mg of test is way more than necessary for a first cycle. This more is better mentality is for fucking retards....yes.....you noobs....most of you are just that....retards. WHy? Because you post some bullshit that some ass hat from the gym or some roid dealer told you to do. You don't research PCT, you don't research or have a fucking clue how the drugs you want to use work in your body. Nothing about ancillaries, your pct's suck ass. Get off your lazy entitled stupid ass and do some fucking research. If you are too lazy to put together a solid cycle plan and know how to train and diet then you have no business putting chemicals in your body.

 

[TheSVPdeal]

And another thing....I'm really fucking tired of these noob fuck sticks asking for reviews on a FIRST cycle with deca only. Or 600-750mg test. Or 80-100mg of var ED. Are you fucking serious?
Why was 250-300mg of test a killer first cycle 15-20 years ago but now its less than half of whats expected? 500mg of test is way more than necessary for a first cycle. This more is better mentality is for fucking retards....yes.....you noobs....most of you are just that....retards. WHy? Because you post some bullshit that some ass hat from the gym or some roid dealer told you to do. You don't research PCT, you don't research or have a fucking clue how the drugs you want to use work in your body. Nothing about ancillaries, your pct's suck ass. Get off your lazy entitled stupid ass and do some fucking research. If you are too lazy to put together a solid cycle plan and know how to train and diet then you have no business putting chemicals in your body.

250mg test is the best first cycle and all I recommend to first timers.

Problem is that people don't like being new and live in their microwave society where they are use to instant gratification.

 

[Essie]

I couldn't agree more. Another thing thing that gets to me is the fact that they are nowhere ... totally lost and when you try and assist AND you give an explanation of WHY you say what you do, they still question you and decide to ignore you flat, because they read somewhere else that it is okay. Like Burn said, the new thing of running crazy dosages for a first cycle. I always advise no more than 350mg/wk of Cyp/Enan for a first cycle, but then I get the "but I read on so-and-so's post that he is running 600mg Test and 400mg Deca with DBol first 4 weeks and Winny last weeks' ... Bro ... seriously ... also note that it is NOT so-and-so's FIRST CYCLE! And then the Noob will only have Nolva for PCT. No on cycle support, no proper PCT ... don't even know what HCG is, how it works, what it does or what a HPTA is and how it is affected ... DAMN IT this is so frustrating. When did people get to the point where it is no longer necessary to KNOW what you are putting into your body? Why don't they realise that these are synthetic hormones, which are VERY powerfull and have the potential to really mess you up?

 

[nh3master]

yes. Peeps are so lazy these days. They cant even do a simple search for what they are doing.For me personally, I did two ana half years of research before I did a simple test
cycle. There gonna do, What their gonna do, I guess. FFS at least be informed in what u are doing. The ops topic should be pinned. lol

 

[bonacris]

I agree with you if its the guys 1st or 2nd cycle but there was one thread within the last 7days where the guy was 250lbs and looking for help on his up coming cycle and instead of help he got into an argument because someone didnt agree with his doses even though they were quite conservative for a guy of 250lbs. They guy got berated

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[Nelson Montana]

I agree with you if its the guys 1st or 2nd cycle but there was one thread within the last 7days where the guy was 250lbs and looking for help on his up coming cycle and instead of help he got into an argument because someone didnt agree with his doses even though they were quite conservative for a guy of 250lbs. They guy got berated

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That was along the same lines that I'm talking about. This isn't just about newbies doing too much. It's about guys who just post cycles of a bunch of shit and then ask advice. What advice are they looking for? How do you fine tune a 5 gram cycle of ten compounds ? And what are you fine tuning it for? When none of that is even mentioned, it's pointless. Yet, people think they're helping by saying to do more of this or that. It's silly.

 

[stevesmi]

That was along the same lines that I'm talking about. This isn't just about newbies doing too much. It's about guys who just post cycles of a bunch of shit and then ask advice. What advice are they looking for? How do you fine tune a 5 gram cycle of ten compounds ? And what are you fine tuning it for? When none of that is even mentioned, it's pointless. Yet, people think they're helping by saying to do more of this or that. It's silly.

hard to argue with that.

if i was competing i would be asking for last minute advice on show prep, thats gonna make the difference between 3rd place and winning