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whats so bad about doing 1g of test on your first cycle?
- Thread starter big pumper
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Damn, there is so much ignorance on this thread it's actually funny.
Pumper - You want a scientific explanation as to why 1 g test is better (or not) than 500 mg? OK, I will type s-l-o-w-l-y so you can keep up, LOL.
One reason is that you only have so many androgen receptors and everyone is unique in this respect (i.e. everyone will have different numbers of AR's). If you saturate your receptors, adding more test will not further increase anabolism but it will proportunately increase the risk of sides (acne, testicular shrinkage, increased risk of prostate cancer, gyno, etc.). Also, saturating your receptors can actually down-regulate your androgen receptors and make AS even less effective. 500 mg ew test may ALREADY saturate your receptors (you don't know how many you have). Jumping right into a gram ew was just plain irresponsible and will not necessarily give you more gains then you would have had at 500 mg ew.
You are 160 lbs at 5'11" (or was it 5'10") and have been working out for 4 years? Anyone who knows how to diet and train should have been able to do better than that. That's why a lot of people are "assuming" you know nothing of diet and training.
I can relate to some degree. I am a classic ectomorph hardgainer who weighed 130 lbs soaking wet at 5'8" for most of my adult life. I didn't know shit about how to diet or train either and mostly ended up eating the wrong kinds of food and severely overtrained to boot. No wonder I was small! I have put on 35 lbs of mostly muscle in the past 9 months with as a lot less gear than you are taking. I attribute much of my success to learning how to diet and train; gear is secondary.
At 19 years old, you are likely done growing taller but you are probably still growing thicker and gear (especially at the foolish doses you are on) will put a stop to that very quickly. Ironically, if you had waited just a few more years before you started shooting gobs of test, you probably would have had a much better base on which to grow. It is likely that you have actually stunted your growth by taking AS to early.
Look, there are a LOT of very knowledgable people who have contributed to this thread and EVERY SINGLE ONE has been in agreement that you are taking way too much test to be healthy or even grow properly. A smart person would recognize that and think twice about their choices. A moron would just say "they don't know shit" and just do it anyway, likely fucking his health royally in the bargain. Which one are you?....
Pumper - You want a scientific explanation as to why 1 g test is better (or not) than 500 mg? OK, I will type s-l-o-w-l-y so you can keep up, LOL.
One reason is that you only have so many androgen receptors and everyone is unique in this respect (i.e. everyone will have different numbers of AR's). If you saturate your receptors, adding more test will not further increase anabolism but it will proportunately increase the risk of sides (acne, testicular shrinkage, increased risk of prostate cancer, gyno, etc.). Also, saturating your receptors can actually down-regulate your androgen receptors and make AS even less effective. 500 mg ew test may ALREADY saturate your receptors (you don't know how many you have). Jumping right into a gram ew was just plain irresponsible and will not necessarily give you more gains then you would have had at 500 mg ew.
You are 160 lbs at 5'11" (or was it 5'10") and have been working out for 4 years? Anyone who knows how to diet and train should have been able to do better than that. That's why a lot of people are "assuming" you know nothing of diet and training.
I can relate to some degree. I am a classic ectomorph hardgainer who weighed 130 lbs soaking wet at 5'8" for most of my adult life. I didn't know shit about how to diet or train either and mostly ended up eating the wrong kinds of food and severely overtrained to boot. No wonder I was small! I have put on 35 lbs of mostly muscle in the past 9 months with as a lot less gear than you are taking. I attribute much of my success to learning how to diet and train; gear is secondary.
At 19 years old, you are likely done growing taller but you are probably still growing thicker and gear (especially at the foolish doses you are on) will put a stop to that very quickly. Ironically, if you had waited just a few more years before you started shooting gobs of test, you probably would have had a much better base on which to grow. It is likely that you have actually stunted your growth by taking AS to early.
Look, there are a LOT of very knowledgable people who have contributed to this thread and EVERY SINGLE ONE has been in agreement that you are taking way too much test to be healthy or even grow properly. A smart person would recognize that and think twice about their choices. A moron would just say "they don't know shit" and just do it anyway, likely fucking his health royally in the bargain. Which one are you?....
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DaddyX
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~ThaGame~ said:yeah i should be banned because the almighty daddyx doesn't like me.
i didn't really understand anything you said, must not have been able to hear you with JA's cock in your mouth.
nay, i was just commenting how your too young and dumb to be doing any AAS. you are of no knowldge and help absolutly nobody out or ask for help. your presents is here just to talk shit cause thats all you know how to be is a computer tough guy. BTW dumbass, you don't listen on a computer you read. your in tenth grade so you should have learned how to read right ? well have fun junior year kiddo
~ThaGame~
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actually i will be a senior, at around 220lbs by then
seriously though daddyx, you live in michigan right? well i have a competition on November 1st in Grand Rapids, you should know where that is. If i have to earn your "respect" for being "too young" why don't you stop by the show. i will give you the addy and my real name so you can look for me. i'll be the one in the teen section waiting to go to nationals after i win that show. thanks man
seriously though daddyx, you live in michigan right? well i have a competition on November 1st in Grand Rapids, you should know where that is. If i have to earn your "respect" for being "too young" why don't you stop by the show. i will give you the addy and my real name so you can look for me. i'll be the one in the teen section waiting to go to nationals after i win that show. thanks man
J
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~ThaGame~ said:yeah i should be banned because the almighty daddyx doesn't like me.
i didn't really understand anything you said, must not have been able to hear you with JA's cock in your mouth.
You really are an ignorant fool that contributes nothing to this board other than useless insults and bad advice. I can't believe you would recommend 1g of Test a week to a newbie who has never cycled before and is still in his teens like you are. You are obviously some teenage puck still going through puberty. There should an age requirement to post on this board. I bet you're not even old enough to buy a lotto ticket. Take your flames, juvenile comments and piss poor advice and go some chat room where the maturity level is on par with your own. This board, the people and the discussions that place are far beyond your Sub 80 IQ.
J
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~ThaGame~ said:
Case in point. Go somewhere else.
big pumper
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Spidey said:
hey bro, thanks for the reply, that is what i was looking for.
one part im not sure about is downregulation of the AR, i thought this was a myth? i think that i have read that if you use gear longer than 12 weeks the AR can downregulate, but it actually upregulates over the period of a 10 week cycle, im not sure where dosage fits into this. But i dont see how having more test in your system can downregulate the AR, if they are saturated how will the extra test have any effect on the AR (it will have the same half life still). also, i dont agree about the sides. if you dont get more gains how will you get more sides, doesn't the AR control ALL the actions of androgens, sides and gains? i think thats why its said that if you dont gain from AAS you wont get the sides either, because every action of an androgen has to go through the androgen receptor, thats why compounds that bind strongley to the receptor cause sides, and weak AR agonists don't give many sides. this is how i understood it atleast, but i will look more into it.
what do you mean about getting thicker though? do you mean my bones? as far as height i have been 5 ten since i was 15, so thats not an issue.
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DaddyX
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~ThaGame~ said:actually i will be a senior, at around 220lbs by then
seriously though daddyx, you live in michigan right? well i have a competition on November 1st in Grand Rapids, you should know where that is. If i have to earn your "respect" for being "too young" why don't you stop by the show. i will give you the addy and my real name so you can look for me. i'll be the one in the teen section waiting to go to nationals after i win that show. thanks man
grand rapids is a little too far for me to drive. im by detroit......thats like a 2 hour ride. you will never get my respect. you have not posted one positive thing to this board. you say your going to be a senior in highschool then why are you on this board. you are not even 18 years old. train,eat and lift hard. being 220lbs means nothing. your weight means shit son. i could be 260 but i would be a fat ass. instead im 225 with a good bf%. can you post a link to a thread of yours that was actually helpful. i can't find one
