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whats so bad about doing 1g of test on your first cycle?

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I don't understand whats wrong with doing 1g of test on your first cycle. The gains will be greater than 500mg. You wont get shut down anymore than if you do 500mg (think about it, you are already completley shut down at 500mg, another 500 can't shut you down any further, length of cycle can but not amount). If gyno happens, anti-e's will take care of it (i have ldex and nolva on hand).

SO, whats wrong with 1g on a first cycle?
 
My friends first cycle was with 1cc of test every 4 days for a total of 10cc's. He definately got stronger and bigger. If that's all ya got (as in his case) run with it. But there are much better cycles if you have the resourses.
 
1) you can gain just as much with a lower dose
2) you dont know how your body is going to react to AAS
3) next time u do a cylce you are more likely going to use even more
4) its your first cycle therefore you don't need to go overboard.

im not expert or anything but these things should be common sense
 
This is the typical attitude of the young these days and it's one of the many reasons gear will be illegal for a long time to come. If two Advil are okay for a headache, hell why not 100? More more more. How do you know the gains will be better than 500? Have you even tried 500 ? For a first timer, your receptor's are fresh, untouched. You will respond excellently for a first timer at 500mg and I'd venture to say that you'd have responded just as well on possibly lower. Hell, I gained 15 lbs from a mere 200mg of Deca per week and kept all of it. The gains just aren't from the test bro, it's your training, your diet, and how well you respond to it all. Love to see what's gonna happen when all that water weight comes peeling off you, are you gonna panic? Cause I hate to break it to you, the majority of it is not solid muscle. Then again, your solution seems to be, got a problem add another drug, an anti e, a diuretic, maybe a bit more test, what have you. Hell, you should bump it up to 2g and then 3g's. After all, you won't shut down any harder right? and the gains, well, they would be soooo much better.
 
yea it really not a good idea to load ur body with a gram of test a week esp. when u dont know how ur body will respond to aas....expierenced users dont always have to use a g a week...why should a virgin to aas like you?
 
Syphonfilter said:
This is the typical attitude of the young these days and it's one of the many reasons gear will be illegal for a long time to come. If two Advil are okay for a headache, hell why not 100? More more more. How do you know the gains will be better than 500? Have you even tried 500 ? For a first timer, your receptor's are fresh, untouched. You will respond excellently for a first timer at 500mg and I'd venture to say that you'd have responded just as well on possibly lower. Hell, I gained 15 lbs from a mere 200mg of Deca per week and kept all of it. The gains just aren't from the test bro, it's your training, your diet, and how well you respond to it all. Love to see what's gonna happen when all that water weight comes peeling off you, are you gonna panic? Cause I hate to break it to you, the majority of it is not solid muscle. Then again, your solution seems to be, got a problem add another drug, an anti e, a diuretic, maybe a bit more test, what have you. Hell, you should bump it up to 2g and then 3g's. After all, you won't shut down any harder right? and the gains, well, they would be soooo much better.

you make good points, but lets not assume that im going to start using 2 or 3 g's just because i used 1g for my first cycle.

as for the gains, do you honestly think a first timer would gain the same at 500mg as 1g? i disagree. i think both cycles could give good results, but 1g will give better results. i guess im trying to say that you are correct i dont NEED 1g to grow, but i do think 1g will give me more muscle than 500mg, do you agree with this? i dont see how its different for a newbie then a vet, higher dosages should give better results, no matter where you are in your cycle experience.

as for keeping the gains, if i am very far from my genetic limit, wont i just as easily keep the 40lbs i gain from 1g as the 30 i gain from 500mg (im just throwing out numbers as an example)?
 
Don't a lot of us discuss this on your earlier thread?
 
bigerisbetter said:
You will grow just as good with half that and you wont waste money.

yeah bro, im a college student so money is a problem for me. i still don't see how people can say i will get the same gains though.
 
THEEGAME2544 said:
Don't a lot of us discuss this on your earlier thread?

people called me an idiot for using 1g on my first cycle, but no one really told me why. i would like to hear someone give me a scientific explanation of how a. i will harm my body and b. how i will get the same gains at 500mg.

i realize that 500mg is safer, but i don't understand why people think 1g is so dangerous for a first cycle. it seems like every time a person mentions this they get flamed, i think 1g for a first cycle is safer than using DNP, but no one calles people idiots for using DNP (something i would never touch)>
 
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