Whats jail really like?

[LiveFastDieHard]

Im going to jail...im being charged with 46 counts of possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver..all felonies...im fighting it but i am going to lose...i dont know if im going to a state or federal prison though...can someone tell me what prison is really like?

by the way i was caught with 2 pounds of pot, 40 OC80's, and like a very small amount of meth...and im in pennsylvania

 

[jerseyart]

Damn man, how long does your attorney figure he can plead you to bor.

And WTF?

.

 

[Lestat]

that sucks man, does't sound like you got caught with that much either.. who gives a shit about pot

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

the DA is not letting me plea bargain out of any charges..hes hitting me with the full 46...im only 19...im lookin at probably 3 years..maybe more

 

[Alpine]

Jesus man! Sorry to hear it. Good luck! BTW - How do you get 46 felonies? Is each OC a separate felony?

 

[wootoom]

man it sucks i was in there for 2 years for jaywalking. its not so fun

 

[Razorguns]

46 counts??? holy fuck.

Not to be a bummer dude -- but it doesn't look good for not going to jail. What's an OC80?

If you got a clean record -- you might get off lightly. Your lawyer is not plea bargaining for you?

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

oc80=oxycontin 80mg

 

[Gymgurl]

If you get county time it is easy..anything else I'm not to sure about

 

[Evil_Frisky]

man it sucks i was in there for 2 years for jaywalking. its not so fun

WTF

2 years for that?

 

[wootoom]

thats a bummer dude. say hello to all my buddies in D Block

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

its 100% guarannteed NOT to be county time...its real prison

 

[jerseyart]

WTF

2 years for that?







I think he was being sarcastic, or carrying some stoilen electronics, at the time.

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[chewyxrage]

its 100% guarannteed NOT to be county time...its real prison

well the trick is, to kill someone the first day, or become someone's bitch.




j/k that was probably uncalled for. Sorry for your trouble, spend all the money you can possibly get on a lawyer and arrange for someone on the outside to send you packages of stuff you can use in there.

 

[jerseyart]

My only advice kid si to make sure your getting the absolute best legal representation you can afford. The difference isnt minor. If you have a public defender, you're fucked. Beg,borrow,steal to get some cash and get a better attorney.


Isn't there some bitch you can rat out to buy off some time, or at minimum to determine where your sent. Don't go in if you dont have to man. Fuck your "friends." Just move.

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[Gymgurl]

Are you sure if this is your first offense....

 

[Gymgurl]

I just find it strange that they can't plea you down..though each state is different

 

[hamstershaver]

i would of given you more than 3 years

 

[Phaded]

the DA is not letting me plea bargain out of any charges..hes hitting me with the full 46...im only 19...im lookin at probably 3 years..maybe more

if you get 3 years for that you have a shitty lawyer..

 

[gab9681]

I would think if this your first offense you should be able to get that dropped some.

 

[hoosier]

I am pretty sure in PA that any sentence over 12 months is automatically a State prison and not a county

 

[Gymgurl]

But sometimes they will run things concurrant or time served for somethings whilehaving to serve out the others...they seem to work round alot of stuff if you have the right attorny and judge

 

[javaguru]

Federal prison is actually "better" as far as food/living conditions from what I've heard from those who have first hand experience. Also, the Supremme Court recently struck down certain provisions of minimum mandatory sentencing in fed cases, which is also good for you. A first time non-violent drug offender receives more time on average than a rapist or child molestor under federal minimum mandatories.

 

[Zebo]

Get a box of hair coloring and a plane ticket.


Oh, and learned Spanish.

 

[Gambino]

I've had a few friends get locked up, one for five yrs at a med. security pen.
They have all said the same thing, it's not like the movies. If you mind your
buisness and stay outta the way you should be fine...

 

[Razorguns]

oh and don't fuck up. ohterwise you'll be sent to maximum (level 5 is it?) pen. that's where you get treated like a dog, locked up 18 hours a day, and it's very violent.

 

[samoth]

Over 12 months will be prison. Prison is a better place to be than county, relatively speaking.

You got caught with a large amount intened for distribution. Did you have the weed baggied off already? If so, you're in pretty deep.

You will probably get some of the charges dropped, but not all of them. You will be serving time if you're not rich or come from a powerful family. How much, no one can say. Your goal will be to get the minumum time possible. Talk to multiple attorneys and find out who's willing to do the most for you. Figure out what kinda plea bargin you will be doing. You might be able to get down to a few months and five or so years CS. You will likely get out early on probation as well.

 

[samoth]

And try to get an attorney who has experience handling cases similar to yours. That can make a world of difference.

 

[Griz1]

Good advice from Samoth.

Throw EVERYTHING you have at the BEST lawyer you can get.

Fuck! OJ goes free, and for some pot and stuff you get time...what a country.

Best of luck atcha!

 

[Mr. Black]

My guess would be lots of dry raping anal sex. Better hit the weights hard before you go in....

 

[BrothaBill]

well the trick is, to kill someone the first day, or become someone's bitch.

No, no conjugal visits that Ive heard of!! Office space.

That really sux guy. I just heard of that case a few months ago where the kid got life for having pot, the DAs totally screwed him to make an example out of him. Hope they dont play that kind of hardball with you.

Yeah, Ive talked to people that said the big house was far better than county is, "aint shit to do in county" Im not sure what exactly they meant but I got the point. In the pen you have better commisary, better and more food, classes and education. I spose its all different though from state to state. I wouldnt want to do noooo time in the South like Alabama or something. At Huntsville prison in Bama youd be out working on the chain gang, if youre lucky youd be in the fields tending crops to feed the prison. Some serious convicts there.

Prison is what you make I heard. If you go being ass then you'll get run over hard. If you do your own time and stay out of people's bidnezz then youre much less likely to have a problem from what Ive heard.

 

[Carmen]

that sucks man, does't sound like you got caught with that much either.. who gives a shit about pot

my father got 8 years in federal prison for drug trafficking- all pot.
it was international, and HUGE amounts.
he tried saying he had nothing to do with it, but the underground solar greenhouse on his property in california that was used as a holding tank gave it away.
he got out in 4 years because hurricane andrew blew the prison away- the one in homestead florida. the place he was in was all white collar criminals. he roomed with manuel noriega, which i said in another post. he had friends who were in for bank fraud, insider trading, embezzlement.
He said it was horrible, but i'll be honest with you- my father was in his 50s when he went in and used to a life where he brought in TONS of money and did no work. He lived on a ranch in the hills and spent his day tanning, smoking pot, and picking up the women that were always around. he drove mercedes, had exotic animals (mountain lions) and sculpted in his studio every day.
To him, being behind walls was horrible enough.
while he was in, he got his paralegal degree by spending most of the day in the library. He said the other inmates were quiet and respectful- they weren't hardcore criminals.
After the hurricane came, they had to consolodate prisons and they put him and most of the other inmates he was with into a maximum security place with murderers and stuff. These weren't people he would have talked to outside of prison and now he lived with them.
within 2 months, they let him go on an early release. He was wierd for the next year but got over it.

 

[BrothaBill]

"Anyone take my cornbread, there will be consequences and repercussions!"

 

[UA_Iron]

get your ass to a liberal doctor in CA and get a prescription for that marijuana - my buddy did that.

Too bad you didnt have that already - unless you're being tried in a federal court, you're fucked.

I've always heard prison is better than jail - foodwise, respect from the guards etc. In Jail you're the bitch, and you meet some weird people.

 

[CFZB]

Kinda like the Army Only Your sposta Kill People.

 

[mountain muscle]

Time to start a heavy cycle. and lift every day you can.
Sucks to hear that bro and that the DA is being a shit. Pot is nothing.
Oxy is some nasty shit though, I have a driller that would shoot that up and run the rig while I was in the derrick.
3 years is a long stretch for drugs. But our country is fucked when it comes to our drug policies.
Best of luck bud.
I have never been. from what I hear from friends who have though is fuck up some baby raper or other person who actually deserves to be there and you may be left alone.
Hope things work out, and don't forget to appeal.

 

[chewyxrage]

My guess would be lots of dry raping anal sex. Better hit the weights hard before you go in....

http://dickcream.com/h/04/0329/

 

[JustJacked]

Its not that bad. just keep your mouth shut and dont bother nobody. and whatever you do DONT look at someone unless their talking to you. and NEVER look in another mans cell. dont reach over someones food. dont get all buddy buddy with people cause you never know who your talking to. Its still sucks really bad because you dont have all the luxeries that you do on the street but youll get used to it. when you get there ask some of the guys what the rules are. some prisons have diferent rules. and dont take shit from no one. if anyone starts with you SMASH 'EM. dont let no one disrespect you. you go in there with your man hood and you want to leave with it. Have fun!



oh yeah, AND DONT DROP THE SOAP!!!

 

[PICK3]

They are just trying to scare the fuck out of you now, they'll offer you a plea ... but you'll have to rat.

 

[Spartacus]

oc80=oxycontin 80mg

hell I figured that one out

 

[deltreefitness]

if you get 3 years for that you have a shitty lawyer..

I have to agree. Don't plea bargin, fight it. I don't a whole lot about law but I do know someone in PA who was caught with coke ( I think with intent to distribute). No time at all. Some light rehab.

This makes me sick. US drug laws are disgusting. Get a better lawyer. Then read Jacob Sullum's "Saying Yes"

 

[PICK3]

My guess would be lots of dry raping anal sex. Better hit the weights hard before you go in....

You can hit the weights all you want ... when it's 20 to 1 ... you lose.

 

[biteme]

I was arrested once when I was about 19. I had a paper route and it was early morning and I had my shirt off as I was driving down the road and throwing papers. I get pulled over and handcuffed for having a ticket out that I hadn't paid. My friend came to get me out of jail and he was laughing his ass off at my mug shot because I looked like a real hardened criminal with my shirt off and black newspaper print smeared all over my face.

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

i cant afford any good lawyer..i have to use the DA..and my parents wont help me pay for any lawyer..so the DA is the best I can do....i was hoping i could make a deal with the DA that if i joined the marines they would just put me on probabation or something..since i was planning on joining the marines anyway.......the only thing going my way so far is that it doesnt look like the federal govt is going to prosecute me..its just going to be state..at least for now

 

[PICK3]

the only thing going my way so far is that it doesnt look like the federal govt is going to prosecute me..its just going to be state..at least for now

You'd MUCH rather do Fed time than State time!!!

 

[chewyxrage]

i cant afford any good lawyer..i have to use the DA..and my parents wont help me pay for any lawyer..so the DA is the best I can do....i was hoping i could make a deal with the DA that if i joined the marines they would just put me on probabation or something..since i was planning on joining the marines anyway.......the only thing going my way so far is that it doesnt look like the federal govt is going to prosecute me..its just going to be state..at least for now

wait, so you don't even have a defense lawyer? the DA is the proscecutor

 

[Festina Lente]

Good luck man, you gonna need it. I think up to to years is still county jail .

 

[chewyxrage]

up to 1 year is jail, anything over is prison.

 

[biteme]

Im going to jail...im being charged with 46 counts of possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver..all felonies...im fighting it but i am going to lose...i dont know if im going to a state or federal prison though...can someone tell me what prison is really like?

by the way i was caught with 2 pounds of pot, 40 OC80's, and like a very small amount of meth...and im in pennsylvania

Skip bail and leave the country. Fuck jail. You shouldn't go to jail for that, especially if it's your first offense. But we live in a country contolled by the conservatives now. They'll probably give you time. Assholes.

 

[Hangfire]

I call bullshit. LMAO anyway at all of the advice.

 

[n0th1ng]

i cant afford any good lawyer..i have to use the DA..and my parents wont help me pay for any lawyer..so the DA is the best I can do....i was hoping i could make a deal with the DA that if i joined the marines they would just put me on probabation or something..since i was planning on joining the marines anyway.......the only thing going my way so far is that it doesnt look like the federal govt is going to prosecute me..its just going to be state..at least for now

Even if that were an option I don't think the Marines would take you. They did miss their recruiting goal but I don't think they are desperate enough to start accepting drug dealers and felons just yet.

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

military takes felons...

and y would u call bullshit...what would i possibly have to gain from making this up?

 

[Razorguns]

just thank god you're not in cali.

so many people get arrested, they just throw you in jail and yell "Next!"

 

[Hangfire]

military takes felons...

and y would u call bullshit...what would i possibly have to gain from making this up?

I don't know what your motives are, but you don't seem to know a whole lot about the details of a case that, if true, will have permanent damaging impact on the rest of your life.

If it is true........well, you reap what you sow.

 

[H_T_]

If you get county time it is easy..anything else I'm not to sure about

where are you located? and how big are you? county time ain't easy around here..........

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

what details would u like hangfire?...i dont know if ur one of those retards that goes around internet message boards trying to fight people but you can think whatever you want

 

[deltreefitness]

If it is true........well, you reap what you sow.

Do you any idea what discussing board you'e posting in?

This from someone who is a member of a forum primarily dediced to discussing illicit drug use? It's not OK unless it's your drug of choice, right? Our drug policies are bent. All you know about this case is that he had a lot of drugs and may have been distributing them. You may not like the undergroud drug market but it's only a biproduct of prohibition. If the US would be more honest (and maybe less greedy) about drugs (includes alcohol and tabbacco) there wouldn't be such a lucrative black market and such a stigma attached with drug use.

 

[Razorguns]

Word to drug users:

If you're gonna use it -- for heaven's sakes -- DO'NT DRIVE AROUND WITH IT!!!!

It's how 90% of drug users are busted.

Keep that shit in da house! You don't see us steroid users getting busted in crack neighbourhoods do you? Our shit's in da cupboard behind the frosted flakes!

 

[deltreefitness]

Word to drug users:

If you're gonna use it -- for heaven's sakes -- DO'NT DRIVE AROUND WITH IT!!!!

It's how 90% of drug users are busted.

Keep that shit in da house! You don't see us steroid users getting busted in crack neighbourhoods do you? Our shit's in da cupboard behind the frosted flakes!

Most americans have no idea that they can say no when ask to search their vehicle. Hell most forget they have a right to remain SILENT.

 

[Razorguns]

Most americans have no idea that they can say no when ask to search their vehicle. Hell most forget they have a right to remain SILENT.

True. But then they can sit in the back of the car until a canine comes and sniffs the entire vehicle. Then they can rip it apart as much as they want. Either way -- they'll get to it.

Do what my chulo 18th street gangbanger does (u didn't hear it here). Got a little trap door underneath his legs. coke, etc. is in a little pouch. If he gets pulled over -- press a little button and all of it falls to the ground underneath the car. Real smooth. Cops can search forever, unless they're real real keen and lok underneath the car.

amazing how smart, innovative and organized those mexican drug cartels are. Only like 10% of drugs acutally get stopped. They supply like 90% of the coke snorted by hollywood folks. Lotsa cash there folks. LOTSA cash.

 

[deltreefitness]

True. But then they can sit in the back of the car until a canine comes and sniffs the entire vehicle. Then they can rip it apart as much as they want.

Really. Are you certain? I am almost sure that without anything in "plain view", a warrant, proable cause, your permission police are not allowed to just search or enter your vehicle.

 

[Gymgurl]

where are you located? and how big are you? county time ain't easy around here..........

I'm talking Oakland County no big deal....Wayne County a little different due to the population

 

[BrothaBill]

Really. Are you certain? I am almost sure that without anything in "plain view", a warrant, proable cause, your

I am positive, if they bring a canine and it hits on a smell, they will tear that car apart b/c of it. The staters do that on known drug routes every day of the year.

 

[Razorguns]

Really. Are you certain? I am almost sure that without anything in "plain view", a warrant, proable cause, your permission police are not allowed to just search or enter your vehicle.

Cops can do anything outside your car. You have no right to tell a dog to buzz off. Kinda like how after 9/11, they had dogs everywhere around the city sniffin' every car going onto bridges sniffin' for explosives.

 

[jay1]

Just mind your business and dont let anyone intimidate you no matter how big they are. Also dont join any gangs. You dont need that shit. You go in by yourself and you leave by yourself.
I hope you have a girl to write you letters everyday cause it sucks to see everyone else get mail when you dont.
Speaking from experience.

 

[JustJacked]

Cops can do anything outside your car. You have no right to tell a dog to buzz off. Kinda like how after 9/11, they had dogs everywhere around the city sniffin' every car going onto bridges sniffin' for explosives.

ya, this is a new law they just had past a couple weeks ago. cops dont need suspicion or probable cause anymore to have the dogs sniff your car.

bush is also trying to pass a law that would grant the US the right to have someone locked up for life without a trial.

 

[H_T_]

I'm talking Oakland County no big deal....Wayne County a little different due to the population

Pontiac and Flint are just as bad.

 

[Alpine]

i cant afford any good lawyer..i have to use the DA..and my parents wont help me pay for any lawyer..so the DA is the best I can do....i was hoping i could make a deal with the DA that if i joined the marines they would just put me on probabation or something..since i was planning on joining the marines anyway.......the only thing going my way so far is that it doesnt look like the federal govt is going to prosecute me..its just going to be state..at least for now

I tried to join the military when I was in a tight spot like that once. This was after Sept. 11 too. The DA said she wouldn't let me join the military instead of the punishment I got, because they're "letting anyone join nowadays." ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME! The DA would rather me sit in jail than fight for our country....and possibly die???? While I was in court, I saw a guy get sentenced to 10 years for manufacturing crystal and then right after him they gave a guy 8 months for beating up and raping a girl. What a fucking joke! I would think a violent crime against another human would get more time than a guy manufacturing/selling drugs! I talked to my lawyer after watching these 2 guys get sentenced and he said "that's the war on drugs for ya." The drug laws in this country are just FUCKED UP!

 

[samoth]

I would strongly suggest a plea bargin. Two pounds of weed. I don't know the details, but I'm going to guess that you had it portioned off. If that is the case, "fighting it" would only see you serving more time. You don't attempt to fight it unless you have a good chance of winning, or an ace up your sleeve. Ask your lawyer about that one. If you're fighting it (if he's fighting it for you), what exactly is your defense going to be?

Your goal should be to do whatever steps necessary to reduce time spent. Whether military, community service, whatever. Anything it takes to get the minimum time.

 

[samoth]

Whether or not anyone agrees with or likes the drug laws in our country, it takes a far stretch of the imagination to argue moderate consequences for two pounds of marijuana. That's not small-time dealing or personal use. The oxys just add insult to injury.

Regardless, he needs to concentrate on his present and pending future situation.

Is there any way you can take out loans (or something) in order to get the best attorney possible?

 

[Alpine]

ya, this is a new law they just had past a couple weeks ago. cops dont need suspicion or probable cause anymore to have the dogs sniff your car.

bush is also trying to pass a law that would grant the US the right to have someone locked up for life without a trial.

Seriously? Jesus! Talk about not having any rights!

 

[JustJacked]

Seriously? Jesus! Talk about not having any rights!

Its this big bull shit terrorist thing that bush has caused to make americans scared so he can pass all his laws.

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

the 2 pounds where not portioned off...there was 1lb each in 2 bags...

 

[Pappichulo]

First of all what are you doing out of jail your bond must not have been that high and with that said the judge doesn't seem to think that you are much of a risk to do something stupid like flee the country so thats a good sign but for sure get a good lawyer none of that public defender bullshit believe me that will make all the difference in your case.You will do some time Im not familiar with your states laws but prison time does seem very possible for the amount you were caught with.Prison life well movies kind of show the real side of it either you join a gang or you'll be sold like a bitch left and right.Best advise find new friends as soon as possible and NEVER bitch out even if fucking mike tyson is in there and calls you out.Other than that its a lifters paradise haveing access to weights everyday fuck yeah! Yes roids are easy to get in there so look on the bright side your going in and coming out yoked.Just hope for the best and expect the worst.

 

[Singleton]

Word to drug users:

If you're gonna use it -- for heaven's sakes -- DO'NT DRIVE AROUND WITH IT!!!!

It's how 90% of drug users are busted.

Keep that shit in da house! You don't see us steroid users getting busted in crack neighbourhoods do you? Our shit's in da cupboard behind the frosted flakes!

If you're eating that crap, gears the least of your worries.

 

[Dags]

Federal prison is actually "better" as far as food/living conditions from what I've heard from those who have first hand experience. Also, the Supremme Court recently struck down certain provisions of minimum mandatory sentencing in fed cases, which is also good for you. A first time non-violent drug offender receives more time on average than a rapist or child molestor under federal minimum mandatories.

Same over here in Australia bro.I did more time for drugs than half of those kiddie touchers.

 

[Dags]

Same over here in Australia bro.I did more time for drugs than half of those kiddie touchers.

Oh yeah,my answer to the question is jail sux.

 

[Pappichulo]

This post is all bullshit he says he doesnt have the money for a good attorney bet yet he has paid his bail(obviously cuz he's home typing this bullshit on this forum) which would be a couple grand even with the 10% bailbondsman thing you can do.Aint buying it buddy

 

[LiveFastDieHard]

i didnt have to pay bail fucknuts...im out on $10,000 UNSECURED...i was not a flight risk...

 

[JustJacked]

i didnt have to pay bail fucknuts...im out on $10,000 UNSECURED...i was not a flight risk...

dont worry about it. youll be fine.

 

[deltreefitness]

Cops can do anything outside your car. You have no right to tell a dog to buzz off. Kinda like how after 9/11, they had dogs everywhere around the city sniffin' every car going onto bridges sniffin' for explosives.

Gotcha. In your post you I was under the impression that you meant officier can just go ahead and sit in your back seat.

 

[reltihrj]

Im going to jail...im being charged with 46 counts of possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver..all felonies...im fighting it but i am going to lose...i dont know if im going to a state or federal prison though...can someone tell me what prison is really like?

by the way i was caught with 2 pounds of pot, 40 OC80's, and like a very small amount of meth...and im in pennsylvania

jail in phillys pussy shit compared to cali ive been to both keep your mouth shut, first nigger to fuckin even look at you the wrong way you better put it down hard as fuck,theres muslims jews riding up all over the pennsylvania dutch area you be all alone pussy and they'll rape you . do you want to stand there and die? while some pussy fuckin your bitch,the oc problem spells you do ,you get an extra year for trying to escape,you only get 30 days for rippin someones face off.heroin is not allowed in the white race thats all i can tell you,i dont give a fuck about anyones views a little meth good for you,stay satan dont go god going and hold hands unless your fooling them into less time

 

[JustJacked]

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When you think about the differences between work and prison, maybe prison isn't so bad...

IN PRISON.......You spend the majority of your time in an 8x10 cell.
AT WORK........You spend most of your time in a 6x8 cubicle.

IN PRISON.......You get three meals a day.
AT WORK........You get a break for 1 meal and you have to pay for it.

IN PRISON.......You get time off for good behaviour.
AT WORK........You get rewarded for good behaviour with more work.

IN PRISON.......A guard locks and unlocks all the doors for you.
AT WORK........You must carry around a security card and unlock and open all the doors yourself.

IN PRISON........You can watch TV and play games.
AT WORK.........You get fired for watching TV and playing games.

IN PRISON.......You get your own toilet.
AT WORK........You have to share.

IN PRISON.......They allow your family and friends to visit.
AT WORK........You cannot even speak to your family and friends.

IN PRISON.......All expenses are paid by taxpayers with no work required.
AT WORK........You get to pay all the expenses to go to work and then they deduct taxes from you salary to pay for prisoners.

IN PRISON.......You spend most of your life looking through bars from inside wanting to get out.
AT WORK........You spend most of your time wanting to get out and go inside bars.

IN PRISON......There are wardens who are often sadistic.
AT WORK.......They are called supervisors.

IN PRISON.......You have unlimited time to read e-mail jokes.
AT WORK........You get fired if you get caught

 

[PICK3]

IN PRISON ..... You have a roomate named Bubba who tries to slip it in dry
At Work ........ Your boss "slips it in dry"

 

[showtime2004]

bro. i've seen people get caught with more junk than that who got probation. keep your fingers crossed and hopefully you'll end up in the same situation. best of luck brother, keep your head up.

 

[tatman3177]

chances are youll be goin to a state prison. if it were fed you know it by now they dont play games. i did 6 yrs. in a state prison. and the da is probably talkin shit to scare ya. he says take to trial to scare you into takin a bs plea deal. you need to have your lawyer look into all the little details to see what might be able to be droped. everything is details at this point fight every one they might have to drop b/c of technicality.

 

[BigTmMan009]

First off I would find a new lawer. It my cost 5000/10000 but it will be worth it. 3 years for that I dont now. Its your first time. If you go to jail they won't put you with killers and shit. Your young and they put like crimes together. So you wont be with buba serving 30 to life who knows your ass will be the only ass he will ever get. If you do go try to get an early release program or bootcamp. When in do pushup and shit come out in shape. Some prisons have programs so you can learn stuff too. Like auto body, computers. Keep your head up not end of the world.

 

[peach0341]

From what I hear federal time is the easiest.

 

[Vectork39]

dude i have very littel sympathy for people that sell OC's, pot is one thing, but OC's that shit is no joke and leads to a fuckoad of teen overdoses... and carries minimum of 8 yrs in most states, and with the quantities you said, it sounds like its even worse

but i spent time in dc jail, no fun, food sucked, have sleeping problems and back problems but dont think for a minute that someone twice ur size automatically has superiority over u, who cares if u get beaten down, you'll live to see another day, but getting raped or gang beaten with soap or a thick platic shaving mirror inside of a sock or pillow case is god awful

 

[romoranger]

yeah.. jail wasn't as fun as recess in elementary school. just don't step down from anyone, doesn't matter who they are, and friends are a good idea.

 

[wootoom]

im in lockdown right now. they let me carry my laptop in here though. its wireless

 

[deltreefitness]

dude i have very littel sympathy for people that sell OC's, pot is one thing, but OC's that shit is no joke and leads to a fuckoad of teen overdoses... and carries minimum of 8 yrs in most states, and with the quantities you said, it sounds like its even worse

What most people don't understand that most of problems with drug use is a byproduct of prohibition. "Controlled substance" is almost a misnomer. Substances like opioids are actually uncontrolled. When you have a black market it leaves little incentive for a dealer to check for ID, or even sell a real product. Illegalizing these substances does not solve the problem.

 

[DIVISION]

military takes felons...

and y would u call bullshit...what would i possibly have to gain from making this up?

No they don't. I'm a veteran.....they don't take convicted felons, because they aren't legally able to be armed with a weapon again. Once you are a felon you can't bear arms in the military......ARMY anyway.....not sure about Marines. During my last deployment we had a guy who was called up but had a felony conviction, therefore he was not allowed to deploy with the rest of us......essentially he was discharged.....

Military accepts misdemeanors, but not felonies.




DIV

 

[hikneeken]

i love the plastic sandals

 

[JustJacked]

i love the plastic sandals

Foot thongs!

 

[Vectork39]

hey romoranger believe me i know all about the problems of prohibiting substances and i know the argument for legalizing them too. i have worked with David Borden on many occasions with DRC net and have helped promote stopthedrugwar.org but i have very little sympathy for oc dealing. its different than pot, he must ahve know the consequences of dealing this drug, its no fucking joke. i've seen what this drug can do in upper class suburbia, in 1999-2000, deaths per year were less than 1000, but from 2001- to present the deaths have more than quadrupled and the age group is under 25....

 

[Bruce]

Im going to jail...im being charged with 46 counts of possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver..all felonies...im fighting it but i am going to lose...i dont know if im going to a state or federal prison though...can someone tell me what prison is really like?

by the way i was caught with 2 pounds of pot, 40 OC80's, and like a very small amount of meth...and im in pennsylvania

my friend got light probation instead of 2 years in jail, and he pulled a gun out while intoxicated at multiple people and he had a scale and shrooms and pot. my other friend was caught with 100 pounds of ganja and 10 pounds of shrooms, he did time in a half way house that he checked into at night, did school at madison during the day, and another friend who was caught with 2 kilos of cocaine, and he got probation. get a nasty junk yard dog lawyer, you will get probation, oc's and pot will not put you in jail if you fight it correctly. your mentality is that you are already going to jail. make it your lifes mission to stay out of jail, you will be successful with those weak charges. good luck my friend. i really think you can win.

 

[onemoreset]

Im going to jail...im being charged with 46 counts of possession of controlled substances with intent to deliver..all felonies...im fighting it but i am going to lose...i dont know if im going to a state or federal prison though...can someone tell me what prison is really like?

by the way i was caught with 2 pounds of pot, 40 OC80's, and like a very small amount of meth...and im in pennsylvania

Ok, here is my observations. I have never worked in a jail(county), so I can't be of much assistance there. I can tell you about state prisons, at least in my neck of the woods.

First, if you do a little county time first, don't fuck anybody up, or get any "tickets" . Your behavoir will follow you into the state system. This is where you get classified or "scored". Drug score(not good 4 you), Violence score, Education/trades....yadayada. The lower score you can get, will get you on a lower custody yard. This means more freedom for you and other inmates(and technically these inmates have less propensity to do "bad things" for fear of getting classed up to a higher yard).

When you see your counselor to get classed, tell them any line of bull that you can think of that will get you a good job in the prison. Automechanic, Building maintenance, etc. U will probably have to prove your self first on a crappy detail.

As far as prison being like "American Me" , well that depends on where u go. The more modern prison, the better. Better living conditions and safety. USUALLY, the worst prisons hold the worst inmates. Sounds like u should b ok though. I have seen violence even on minimum yards, but you REALLY have to disrespect(big time) or owe a huge gambling or drug debt.

Advice? It's going to sound contradicting, but ... don't be disrespectfull to anyone and don't be a mark(punk). Do your own time, not anyone elses. Try not to get in any gang....Aryan Brotherhood (w), Eme (M), or any others.
If you are white, you will hang with other whites, it is just the way it is.

Try not to worry to much, it doesent have to be like the movies. My first cycle was 2 months before I booted in. I too was afraid that if I didn't weigh 275 ripped to shreds, that i was dead meat. Don't believe the hype.

hope this helps-onemoreset

 

[jay1]

my friend got light probation instead of 2 years in jail, and he pulled a gun out while intoxicated at multiple people and he had a scale and shrooms and pot. my other friend was caught with 100 pounds of ganja and 10 pounds of shrooms, he did time in a half way house that he checked into at night, did school at madison during the day, and another friend who was caught with 2 kilos of cocaine, and he got probation. get a nasty junk yard dog lawyer, you will get probation, oc's and pot will not put you in jail if you fight it correctly. your mentality is that you are already going to jail. make it your lifes mission to stay out of jail, you will be successful with those weak charges. good luck my friend. i really think you can win.

Who gets caught with two kilos and only gets probation ?
Where do you live, Colombia ?

 

[deltreefitness]

Who gets caught with two kilos and only gets probation ?

Those that don't plea bargain. Besides, anything's possible. Look @ OJ.