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whats a good concealed carry gun for a chick?

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a friend of mine is now workin as a bar tender and a few nights ago she had some dude waiting outside the bar for her. the place is on a college campus but its still not the best area in the world so i wanna get her a permit with me

whats a good small one she can keep in her purse and stuff
 
Will your college campus even allow for students to carry a gun? Check into that first. In the meantime, have her carry a can of OC with +p
 
both good posts above....

ALSO, one of the doormen/bouncers should walk her to her car... I never worked in any bars where we did not do this for the female co-workers....
 
Don't do the purse thing. It needs to be ON her when she's outside, not in a stupid bag full of tissues and car keys. Small of the back is a good carry.

A .38 snubby would be a decent choice.
 
mdd said:
a friend of mine is now workin as a bar tender and a few nights ago she had some dude waiting outside the bar for her. the place is on a college campus but its still not the best area in the world so i wanna get her a permit with me

whats a good small one she can keep in her purse and stuff
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Desert Eagle 50 caliber semi-auto. Why conceal it?
 
A shotgun. Just walk with it in your hand and don't bother concealing it.

A concealed weapon means that the would be attacker doesn't know it is there and then still could attack - the gun owner then has to act quickly enough to get to it and then be able to use it.

Whereas brandishing a shotgun will very likely avoid any potential attacks in the first place.
 
For women who are not familiar with handguns, a revolver. It has less moving parts, never jams and is a bitch to break.
 
OMGWTFBBQ said:
A shotgun. Just walk with it in your hand and don't bother concealing it.

A concealed weapon means that the would be attacker doesn't know it is there and then still could attack - the gun owner then has to act quickly enough to get to it and then be able to use it.

Whereas brandishing a shotgun will very likely avoid any potential attacks in the first place.
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Wtf? Why a gun?

CS Gas or an alarm I can understand, but a gun?

Americas 1 fucked up place.
 
Deus Ex Machina said:




Q: What will CS gas or an alarm (lol) do to a determined attacker?

A: Nothing
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Q:
What will a gun do in the hands of someone that isn't trained to use it nor has ever been trained to draw it?

A: Nothing
 
Aside from getting bothered by cops everywhere you go, this isn't such a bad idea.

And in most states, is legal.

OMGWTFBBQ said:
A shotgun. Just walk with it in your hand and don't bother concealing it.

A concealed weapon means that the would be attacker doesn't know it is there and then still could attack - the gun owner then has to act quickly enough to get to it and then be able to use it.

Whereas brandishing a shotgun will very likely avoid any potential attacks in the first place.
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Deus Ex Machina said:




Q: What will CS gas or an alarm (lol) do to a determined attacker?

A: Nothing
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Really?

You try and attack someone who's spraying CS Gas in your face. I doubt you'll be too successful.

And if she's in a public place (i.e. outside a bar), then I doubt any attackers gonna stick around while some fucking loud alrams going off, unless he has a prison wish.
 
They train you in the military by swabbing your eyeball with mace, trust me if you're expecting it you can shrug it off. Same goes for tazers.

biggest_man_in_the_world said:


Really?

You try and attack someone who's spraying CS Gas in your face. I doubt you'll be too successful.

And if she's in a public place (i.e. outside a bar), then I doubt any attackers gonna stick around while some fucking loud alrams going off, unless he has a prison wish.
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colt .45 if she can hold on - she will only need to shoot once.

With quality bulletts a 45 hollow point could open a nice hole in the frame of an intruder.
 
My 3 choices:

- Walther PPK in .380ACP

- Kahr MK9

- S&W snubnose .38 (something like 2" barrel is enough)

They can be holstered almost anywhere...
 
Trigger pull on a PPK is ghodawful in double action, and I had all sort of jamming and feed problems -- got rid of that sucker a long time ago.
 
digger said:
Trigger pull on a PPK is ghodawful in double action, and I had all sort of jamming and feed problems -- got rid of that sucker a long time ago.
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You're just not cool like James Bond.
 
digger said:
Trigger pull on a PPK is ghodawful in double action, and I had all sort of jamming and feed problems -- got rid of that sucker a long time ago.
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Was it a german version of one of the crappy american made (S&W) ? The German made has a decent trigger pull. But if it's really a problem then a good trigger job should solve the issue.
 
only in america would the first response be to get a gun.
 
I personally would not see a gun helping me and therefore would be more of a risk for me to have one. I could do something stupid and have it go off, accidentally use it on the wrong person, or make a poor judgment call and kill someone in the heat of the moment.
Assuming that I had enough training, that would lesson the likelihood of such things, but not negate them.

Then there is the issue that the person that is confronting you takes the gun from you. They then assume additional power over you since your power previously relied on the weapon.

And I never understand when people say that the best defense against someone else with a gun is to have your own gun.
Does owning a gun suddenly make you bulletproof?
It is not the best defense, it is the best offense - you can attack from far away - that is it. If they have a gun, you can shoot back - that isn't defense.

The only way I could see a gun being useful is in the case that I mentioned - if the person sees that you have a gun and it therefore deters them.
 
What would be REALLY cool is if chicks could get those nipple guns like in Austin Powers. That'd be sweet.
 
OMGWTFBBQ said:

Then there is the issue that the person that is confronting you takes the gun from you. They then assume additional power over you since your power previously relied on the weapon.
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this happens quite a bit. you pull a gun out on someone you better be sure to use it, or else it'll get used on you.
 
guards said:
only in america would the first response be to get a gun.
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Well we could be more like the British and imprison old men who shoot intruders, due to the fact that the police won't assist the populace anymore, then deny him parole because he is a "threat to burglars".
 
OMGWTFBBQ said:
I personally would not see a gun helping me and therefore would be more of a risk for me to have one. I could do something stupid and have it go off, accidentally use it on the wrong person, or make a poor judgment call and kill someone in the heat of the moment.
Assuming that I had enough training, that would lesson the likelihood of such things, but not negate them.

Then there is the issue that the person that is confronting you takes the gun from you. They then assume additional power over you since your power previously relied on the weapon.

And I never understand when people say that the best defense against someone else with a gun is to have your own gun.
Does owning a gun suddenly make you bulletproof?
It is not the best defense, it is the best offense - you can attack from far away - that is it. If they have a gun, you can shoot back - that isn't defense.

The only way I could see a gun being useful is in the case that I mentioned - if the person sees that you have a gun and it therefore deters them.
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Let me ask you a question: Would the lack of a gun be greater than, less than, or equal to the possession of one in cases of personal defense, since all scenarios are not conceivable?
 
as was said, if she isn't trained to use it, it does her more harm than good. too risky if she is afraid to use it. only way to get her used to it is by repeated handling and firing. slow fire then progress to rapid draw and fire. and even then, she might not be prepared to use it in her own defense.

never been pepper sprayed or had CS gas sprayed at me, but i have experienced CS gas 3 separate times in the Marine Corps. judging from my experiences with CS gas, i could probably continue attacking after being sprayed, and i'd be more determined after that to inflict pain on someone than i was before getting sprayed. i don't intend to find out for sure on this anytime soon though.
 
mdd said:
a friend of mine is now workin as a bar tender and a few nights ago she had some dude waiting outside the bar for her. the place is on a college campus but its still not the best area in the world so i wanna get her a permit with me

whats a good small one she can keep in her purse and stuff
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I own a Walther P99 which I received last year from my dad (him and my bro are both gun freaks). I'm no expert but it's probaly the easiest gun to shoot I've tried. And it comes with a set of backstrap so one of them will fit my hands for sure. Of course, you can't conceal carry a firearm in Canada but :anon: :fistfullo







nevermind....
 
Does SHE want a gun? If she's not comfortable with it, it's not going to be effective.. what about mace, like some others suggested?

My dad bought me this big thing of mace when I went off to college, with the instructions "spray first, ask questions later" LOL.

I'm pretty sure he was kidding

Like BBQ said, it could help if it's visible to others.. also, I don't know how people can continue attacking after that.. I got pepper sprayed once, only lightly and I couldn't breathe or open my eyes.. how could a person still fight? Do you get used to it? :confused:
 
atlantabiolab said:


Let me ask you a question: Would the lack of a gun be greater than, less than, or equal to the possession of one in cases of personal defense, since all scenarios are not conceivable?
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For me personally, I would feel less safe having a gun if attacked.

I have shot about 5 guns in my life, and I don't personally feel that any experience in my life would have been improved had I been carrying one - including times I have been beaten up and/or mugged.

I also don't carry a knife.

Women have the chance of being raped, where for men it is usually money or anger issues.
Were I a woman and in the case that is being discussed on this thread, I would do exactly as I said and carry a shotgun very visibly between the club and the car.
But would not necessarily carry it with me to say, the mall, or a movie theater.
 
Code said:
In Canada ya'll have Die Witness sprays.
How's that working for ya?!
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Pretty good considering our murder rate is about 1/100th of the US of A.


A gun in a the hands of a panicking and untrained person is a SERIOUS danger. You GOTTA agree with me on that.

Don't get me wrong, i am very pro gun, but i am also anti-stupidity and needless violence.
 
There was this awesome gun I saw, it is electronically controlled, and it only fires if you're wearing the ring that activates it, so if someone takes it away, they're not likely to kill you with it.

I don't know when this thing's gonna be available, but until phasers are a reality, it's a nice step in between...
 
They had a simple magnetically-controlled one back in the 1970's. Mas Ayoob (cop and gun writer) swears by his.
 
F117A Active Stealth said:
I don't know when this thing's gonna be available, but until phasers are a reality, it's a nice step in between...
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please excuse my ignorance - but what makes a gun that will only fire if you have the ring on one step closer to a phaser over a gun that doesn't have that?
 
guards said:


Q:
What will a gun do in the hands of someone that isn't trained to use it nor has ever been trained to draw it?

A: Nothing
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OMG!

Something we agree on.


And I say that as a female, that is trained with a permit and two hand guns.
 
mdd said:
a friend of mine is now workin as a bar tender and a few nights ago she had some dude waiting outside the bar for her. the place is on a college campus but its still not the best area in the world so i wanna get her a permit with me

whats a good small one she can keep in her purse and stuff
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She should speak to the manager or owner of the bar and have someone escort her to her car or home after her shift or arranged to be picked up from work.

If that doesn't work - she should get another job.

You don't want her to have a gun take it out and have someone else use her own gun against her.
 
The first and most important question that your friend needs to answer is, can she pull that gun and shoot to kill another human being?

If the answer to that is no, or I don't know, then she has no business with a gun. Too many people think that they can pull a gun and the attacker is going to turn and run. If you pull a gun on someone you better be ready to kill them.
 
Oh and if you must - must get one get a Glock 19 or 26, they require little maintenance, easy to use, reliable, accurate and there are more holster styles available then you could really need.

I highly recommend proper training if you are hell bent on the idea.
 
velvett said:
Oh and if you must - must get one get a Glock 19 or 26, they require little maintenance, easy to use, reliable, accurate and there are more holster styles available then you could really need.

I highly recommend proper training if you are hell bent on the idea.
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I like my glock, but I wouldnt recomend it as a first gun. Its a semi-auto, and its got almost a single action trigger. I firmly believe that a novice gun owner should get at revolver, or an automatic with a double action trigger.
 
Or if you really want to catch the attacker off guard - just as he is about to start getting medieval on your ass, pull out the gun and shoot yourself in the face.
I doubt any attacker would expect that one coming.
 
velvett said:
Oh and if you must - must get one get a Glock 19 or 26, they require little maintenance, easy to use, reliable, accurate and there are more holster styles available then you could really need.

I highly recommend proper training if you are hell bent on the idea.
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Most females I know dislike the Glock trigger reset.

Actually the best one and probably the most popular among girls with some pesos is the H&K P7M8. I bought one for my GF last year. An OPP surplus for less than 600$. Once you get used with the this weirdo, you'll feel like having the Porsche of the handguns. But only problem: new they go for over 1300$ easily...

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anabolicmd said:


I like my glock, but I wouldnt recomend it as a first gun. Its a semi-auto, and its got almost a single action trigger. I firmly believe that a novice gun owner should get at revolver, or an automatic with a double action trigger.
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With proper training this would not be a problem.

:o
 
If single action is an issue on a Glock, get a NYPD connector. But the trigger reset will still be a bitch for many novice.
 
manny78 said:


Most females I know dislike the Glock trigger reset.
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Hmmm?

It's pretty easy to tell if the gun is loaded or not.

Do you mean cocking the gun?

I like Glocks - not to say that you H&K isn't a great pick - it's just more costly.

I like how the glock sits low in the web in hand so when you aquire the taget you have good vision over the slide of the gun.

Anywho.

I still stand by my first comment.
 
anabolicmd said:


Yeah, I agree, but proper training is pretty rare.
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That's just stupid and that person doesn't deserve the right to have a gun permit. An untrained gun carrier is simply a menance and a danger to others.
 
velvett said:


That's just stupid and that person doesn't deserve the right to have a gun permit. An untrained gun carrier is simply a menance and a danger to others.
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Yeah, but the kind of training most people do is not enough. To be really handy with a semi auto, regular use and maintenance is necessary. A revolver can be shot once or twice a year and kept in the nightstand for emergencies, thats all. But I totally agree, with training comes proficiency.
 
velvett said:


Hmmm?

It's pretty easy to tell if the gun is loaded or not.

Do you mean cocking the gun?

I like Glocks - not to say that you H&K isn't a great pick - it's just more costly.

I like how the glock sits low in the web in hand so when you aquire the taget you have good vision over the slide of the gun.

Anywho.

I still stand by my first comment.
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I was refering to the trigger travel for discharge. Yes, the trigger pull is almost like a single action but the travel looks like a double-action (over 0.5"). On the other hand, a P99Q&A for example has less than 0.25" I think. Same for the P7M8. I'Ve witnessed many newbies not being able to double-tap cause of that. They're expecting a typical single action pull.

But hey, the G29 in the hands of a trained shooter is sooooo powerful !!!!
 
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