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the.gladiator1987

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Ok so I have about 1500 right now I could put for a car. Id owe my dad a little money but he would understand. Should I

-buy a $800-$1000 car and make sure it runs
-buy a $1500 car right now that is better than the $800 but still kinda crappy. At least has NO mechanical problems
-save up another $500 and buy a reliable 4 cyl car for $2000.

I would have to bum rides for a couple weeks if i wanted to save 500.
 
A car regardless of the price is a big purchase. Don't skimp on something cheap that will turn into a money pit. If 2k is your ceiling, look for 90's Hondas or Toyotas with reasonably low mileage for the year (use 15k as the average per year, and anything under is good.)


You want something reliable, and Honda and Toyota were that in the 90s.
 
yeah I would save up for the $2000 minimum. The good thing is since the economy is not good you may be able to get a pretty good deal
 
older yota or honda for sure. even a mid-late 90's cavalier or s10 pickup. no quad 4 motor and flush out the purple dex-cool and replace with antifreeze and distilled water. also if you can find a toyota with a 22re engine they are really tough and I've seen them go past 300k.
 
why don't you pull a chick and use your body to barrow their car and then you can save all that money for something later on! you need to convert to asshole'ism! it's bound to happen anyways so might as well conform asap.
 
redshirt27se said:
A car regardless of the price is a big purchase. Don't skimp on something cheap that will turn into a money pit. If 2k is your ceiling, look for 90's Hondas or Toyotas with reasonably low mileage for the year (use 15k as the average per year, and anything under is good.)


You want something reliable, and Honda and Toyota were that in the 90s.
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Yep if getting an older cheap car definitely get Honda or Toyota.
 
Honda accords/civics
Yota corollas, pickups (2WD)
Nissan pickups
mazda proteges, B series pickups

100-150k miles
1992-1996

Personally I would get a nissan or toyota 4 banger regular cab 2WD 5 speed pickup. Those are brick shithouses and cant die. If youre not into trucks best bet would probably be the corolla, those hondas tend to cost more all things being equal.
 
I think that for $1000, you can get something VERY reliable, as long as you aren't trying to impress anybody. I don't mean a green '89 Plymouth either... Just look for an older model Camry or Corolla, maybe with 150K miles and maybe been banged and fixed, or has other things that turn some people off but don't affect reliability. Even a 20-year-old Toyota with under 200K miles, if it passes smog, probably will run trouble-free for another 50K miles if you don't abuse it. You might even get a nice 2000 Corolla from an old lady for $1200. Just be sure NO MATTER WHAT CAR you get if it's older and has miles on it, that the timing belt has been changed in the last 50K miles, or the engine could suddenly self-destruct on you if the belt fails. (not true on all cars, but most Japanese cars of the last 20 years it is).

Other bros are talking trucks, which is fine, but my experience is that it'll be a POS if it's a truck under $1500. I wouldn't expect to find anything decent in an older reliable Toyota (or other small truck) for less than $2500. Only other thing I'd say is although I love American luxury cars too, you will be unhappy with an older GM or Ford, as my experience is that you better either enjoy working on them (me), or have plenty of money and a good mechanic on hand.

Charles
 
I gotta 1 owner 91 Buick with 63k original miles on it. I'll sell you that bish for 2500 if you wanna come to CO and pick it up. :)
 
i've had ford rangers and they are solid.
but always with the 6...for efficency, a reg cab s10 4banger is pretty gold.
and they are cheap, esp if you could score a stripped work model.
 
miplank said:
They s10's are damn near impossible to find anymore. Atleast in this area.
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Teh Yaris is popular amongst teenage girls in this area.

bino said:
out of the domestic small pickups what do you think is the most bullet proof?
my 4wd 6cyl ranger is pretty solid
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The 2.3L Mazda designed 4 banger FTW!

The 3.0L Duratec is very reliable too, but a bit of a gas hog even in the 2WD,
 
my dad is still rockin' my '96 accord 25th anniversary model around town...it's got about 300k on it and it still doesn't burn any oil :)
 
PICK3 said:
Teh Yaris is popular amongst teenage girls in this area.



The 2.3L Mazda designed 4 banger FTW!

The 3.0L Duratec is very reliable too, but a bit of a gas hog even in the 2WD,
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i got the bigger 6 4liter
definite gas hog, but the truck is solid.
 
bino said:
i got the bigger 6 4liter
definite gas hog, but the truck is solid.
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Wise choice ... considerably more power than the 3.0 with little difference in m.p.g.

There's a "mindset" that domestics manufactures don't/have not every built solid vehicles which is just not correct.

Conversely, everyone thinks imports (particularly Japanese) are bullet proof. The last generations of the popular Camry are borderline junk. Nissan, particularly the small cars and trucks (many made in Mexico), aren't too great either. Honda continues to be he benchmark in quality, but ride quality even in the new Accord, leaves much to be desired.

I wouldn't be surprised if the current generation Korean makes, particularly Hyundai, doesn't prove to be as reliable as anything on the road.
 
PICK3 said:
Wise choice ... considerably more power than the 3.0 with little difference in m.p.g.

There's a "mindset" that domestics manufactures don't/have not every built solid vehicles which is just not correct.

Conversely, everyone thinks imports (particularly Japanese) are bullet proof. The last generations of the popular Camry are borderline junk. Nissan, particularly the small cars and trucks (many made in Mexico), aren't too great either. Honda continues to be he benchmark in quality, but ride quality even in the new Accord, leaves much to be desired.

I wouldn't be surprised if the current generation Korean makes, particularly Hyundai, doesn't prove to be as reliable as anything on the road.
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my accord rode kinda like a go-kart..the suspension was a little stiff/sporty..it was kinda fun on twisty roads, but certainly not a luxurious ride.
 
miplank said:
I gotta 1 owner 91 Buick with 63k original miles on it. I'll sell you that bish for 2500 if you wanna come to CO and pick it up. :)
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would you take $1500, delivered to NorCal?
 
bino said:
out of the domestic small pickups what do you think is the most bullet proof?
my 4wd 6cyl ranger is pretty solid
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The 4.0l ranger is a pretty decent truck. However, I don't think i'd personally own one with an automatic transmission. The manuals are the way to go for sure if you're wanting a ranger.

My personal choice would be the chevy s10. Damn shame they don't make them anymore.

But, really the small domestic trucks are kind of a waste of money in my opinion. If you're wanting a truck you might as well go with a fullsize as the gas mileage is damn near the same anyways.
 
bino said:
out of the domestic small pickups what do you think is the most bullet proof?
my 4wd 6cyl ranger is pretty solid
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I have a 4cyl Dodge Dakota Sport and that sucker is a champ I love it!

I got it for $500 down and 6 payments of $200 0% finance :P does have esthetic issues (scratched, dings etc) but nothing major....

Glad try getting a geo metro those suckers are good,cheap and great on MPG
 
i bought my grandma's 97 4 door purple cavalier for $1000 with 96k on the odo as a work car. still gets 30+mpg and never given me any problems so far. her neighbor has the same car with 220k on it and its still going strong. I alo had an s10 with the 4.3 vortech but had to get rid of it as it was a gas hog getting 15-16mpg. they also are fairly easy to wrench on.

My 08 subaru on the other hand popped a piston ring at 11k miles and ther stealership said go fuck yourself about my warranty due to my turbo back exhaust and ecu tuning even though ringland failure is very common with the ej257 motors due to detination/spark knock. luckily I'm pretty savy with wrenches and can do most of the work myself.
 
DannoMight said:
i bought my grandma's 97 4 door purple cavalier for $1000 with 96k on the odo as a work car. still gets 30+mpg and never given me any problems so far. her neighbor has the same car with 220k on it and its still going strong. I alo had an s10 with the 4.3 vortech but had to get rid of it as it was a gas hog getting 15-16mpg. they also are fairly easy to wrench on.

My 08 subaru on the other hand popped a piston ring at 11k miles and ther stealership said go fuck yourself about my warranty due to my turbo back exhaust and ecu tuning even though ringland failure is very common with the ej257 motors due to detination/spark knock. luckily I'm pretty savy with wrenches and can do most of the work myself.
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I don't think Glad has much of an attention span, so he'll see all the HONDA TOYOTA HONDA TOYOTA HONDA TOYOTA posts and never really see this one. You are spot on though in your recommendation of GM 4 bangers, Crap4 notwithstanding.

In our family we bought a '93 Cav new and it ran great until 190k miles when we sold it and bought a new '98 Sunfire and then it ran great until we sold it with 220k miles. The Sunfire still even had the original clutch in it as well.

I know nothing about Chrysler or Ford I4 econocars, but the GM cars in that class of the last 20 years are the best kept secret around. Americans have convinced themselves that they cannot make a good car anymore. If Chrysler makes a shit car, then they conclude that no American made car could be good.

I'd say a 10-12 yo Sunfire/Cav would be a great choice, or a Hyundai/Kia of slightly newer vintage.
 
miplank said:
The 4.0l ranger is a pretty decent truck. However, I don't think i'd personally own one with an automatic transmission. The manuals are the way to go for sure if you're wanting a ranger.

My personal choice would be the chevy s10. Damn shame they don't make them anymore.

But, really the small domestic trucks are kind of a waste of money in my opinion. If you're wanting a truck you might as well go with a fullsize as the gas mileage is damn near the same anyways.
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do you have a preference for the manual or does the auto mechanically suck?
and meh fullsize suck in congested areas, a bitch to park, gas a little worse...think i'm gonna buy a g6 coupe in the fall fuk trucks
 
DannoMight said:
older yota or honda for sure. even a mid-late 90's cavalier or s10 pickup. no quad 4 motor and flush out the purple dex-cool and replace with antifreeze and distilled water. also if you can find a toyota with a 22re engine they are really tough and I've seen them go past 300k.
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+1 on the 22re


also the 22r as well.. those and the Jeep 4.0Ls of the 90's are absolutely bulletproof.
 
RottenWillow said:
I don't think Glad has much of an attention span, so he'll see all the HONDA TOYOTA HONDA TOYOTA HONDA TOYOTA posts and never really see this one. You are spot on though in your recommendation of GM 4 bangers, Crap4 notwithstanding.

In our family we bought a '93 Cav new and it ran great until 190k miles when we sold it and bought a new '98 Sunfire and then it ran great until we sold it with 220k miles. The Sunfire still even had the original clutch in it as well.

I know nothing about Chrysler or Ford I4 econocars, but the GM cars in that class of the last 20 years are the best kept secret around. Americans have convinced themselves that they cannot make a good car anymore. If Chrysler makes a shit car, then they conclude that no American made car could be good.

I'd say a 10-12 yo Sunfire/Cav would be a great choice, or a Hyundai/Kia of slightly newer vintage.
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Totally. Also don't forget the 3.8l. that too was another solid powerplant from gm. My bonneville had close to 180k on the clock before my intake manifold warped(plastic)ad i sold it to a co-worker. twas another of my gram's rides i bought after her years of abuse:)
 
PICK3 said:
The last generations of the popular Camry are borderline junk. Nissan, particularly the small cars and trucks (many made in Mexico), aren't too great either. Honda continues to be he benchmark in quality, but ride quality even in the new Accord, leaves much to be desired.

I wouldn't be surprised if the current generation Korean makes, particularly Hyundai, doesn't prove to be as reliable as anything on the road.
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Sadly I agree. The 90s probably saw the last of the bulletproof Japanese cars & trucks. My '79 Toyota 4x4 has Lord knows how many miles (odometer crapped out in 1995 or so, at just under 300K miles. No rattles, no frame problems, all locks, windows, and stuff still work fine. My 2005 Tacoma Prerunner has 120K miles, and I just replaced the U-joints and carrier bearing, and the body is squeaky, and the plastic headlights need to be replaced. When I bought it, it needed a $500 wire replaced in the air bag in the steering column, and half of the light bulbs were out in the dash and the shift indicator bulb was out. AND it's been garage-kept and dealer-serviced until I bought it this January. And by the way, I noticed when I reinstalled the drive shaft after getting the new carrier bearing and U-joints put on, the rear transmission seal is leaking. The truck was built in California.

And agreeing on your second point with Korean cars; If you look at Samsung and LG electronics, those are now seeming superior in quality to Sony or Mitsubishi, which were once the benchmark of quality in consumer electronics. When I was still in TV repair, I saw rotten quality on the late 90s and newer TVs. The Sonys and Mitsubishis from the 70s and 80s; many of which are still in use today, were bulletproof.

Charles
 
kx250rider said:
My 2005 Tacoma Prerunner has 120K miles, and I just replaced the U-joints and carrier bearing, and the body is squeaky, and the plastic headlights need to be replaced. When I bought it, it needed a $500 wire replaced in the air bag in the steering column, and half of the light bulbs were out in the dash and the shift indicator bulb was out. AND it's been garage-kept and dealer-serviced until I bought it this January. And by the way, I noticed when I reinstalled the drive shaft after getting the new carrier bearing and U-joints put on, the rear transmission seal is leaking. The truck was built in California.
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That's why teh Yaris has a "J VIN" = 100% parts & labor from Japan :)
 
btw, equating "bulletproof" engines with vehicle reliability is pretty much moot.

Most modern engines that are properly maintained (even the dreaded Chrysler products) can easily exceed >100k miles. It is the peripheral systems, e.g. fuel systems, a/c, power accessories, suspension, exhaust, etc ... that go first. Then when multiple systems fail it become cost prohibitive to sink good money into the vehicle.

I think GM is a perfect example. As mentioned in this thread the 2.2l ecotec, 3.8l, and a few other GM engines are very good designs. But, many of these engines are fitted in GM models that don't compete favorably with its competition in terms of overall quality.
 
Damn things sure are cheaper in the states lol

If you're looking for a reliable honda / toyota with low mileage...you're talking 5k+ (before taxes and registration)
 
gm ftw!

Malibu, Cavy, Sunfire, Monte Carlo, Lumina,

Its going to be difficult to find a vehicle that needs no work at all for 2g's or less.

Lets be realistic. Unless you fall into a steal or a family member helps you out, 1500 bucks doesnt get much on ANY platform.

I have 700 bucks in my 95 lumina beater, stole that bitch!.. Family friend of course.

Oh yeah, i work on cars for a living and has the hookup on tires and parts.
 
My dad has a 1997 chevy 1500 full size pick up...he still pulls the cattle trailer with it and up until he retired he drove it to commute to work as well. The truck has over 350,000 miles on it. Like all chevys he had to replace the water pump and thermostat at around 60,000 but since then it has always ran great. I had a 98 ford f150 that was at 130,000 and never had a single problem with it the whole time. I bought it new and had it for 10 years. SO i think a full size domestic truck in that year range was built pretty well by both companys.
 
bino said:
do you have a preference for the manual or does the auto mechanically suck?
and meh fullsize suck in congested areas, a bitch to park, gas a little worse...think i'm gonna buy a g6 coupe in the fall fuk trucks
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I think the auto's suck mechanically. Everyone i've ever driven or taken on trade had issues. While the manuals seem to do great.
 
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