What should I do...

[superqt4u2nv]

Ok so there is an opening at my company for corprate sales trainner. I am pretty sure I would get it if I interviewed. However I can't make up my mind as there are pro's and con's to it.

Pro's
I would be leading a team training and coaching them.
I would be learning new skills which make me more marketable if I ever decide to leave my company. (Fat chance I love it there.)
I believe the new skills and experience would make me better and stand out when applying for the sales manager role when it opens up again.

Con's
I leave my customers and all my accounts which I worked my ass off to gain. I started there over 2 years ago with zero accounts some so so leads list, a phone and grew my account base tp over 150 accounts half of which spend over $50k a year with me. I am in the top 25 sales reps in the company of over over 200 reps. I love sales leaving it would be hard. (Holy long point. LOL)

I leave behind the perks of being in sales meaning lots of free shit from vendors including trips cars etc.

I go from pretty much setting me own hours with in reason to being more accountable for when I am in the office.

Some grey area's can't decide if they are pro's or con's or fall in the middle.

My base pay goes way up makes me more stable. However I do lose that uncapped income one of the top reps if not top he must be he makes $250 k a year doing my dam job.

I have to travel to some of the us office this might screw with my traininng and diet / contest prep etc. Travel is not that much 3-4 weeks of the year.

Also I would be the only person in the office in my department I would report into someone in the us.

 

[Mysterio]

Hard to say. I'm sure you'd do fine no matter where you go seeing your a hard worker and know the bussiness already. Sometimes your gonna have to change to grow but in the end you'll know what's best for you. Goodluck!

 

[Faizakafez]

Ok so there is an opening at my company for corprate sales trainner. I am pretty sure I would get it if I interviewed. However I can't make up my mind as there are pro's and con's to it.

Pro's
I would be leading a team training and couching them.

slut

 

[superqt4u2nv]

slut

OMG this from a person who texts are hard to figure out then 12th grade algebra

 

[needtogetarmy]

I think you have done an excellent job laying it all out.

I really can't make a recommendation. Weight the options and then make a decision. Just based on your posts here I can tell you are the type of person who gives 100% at whatever you do so I know you will succeed if you make the change.

 

[Smurfy]

um, is there a spell check at your work>? lol

i think you should do whatever strikes you as being more pleasing. i am one for lots of different experience so perhaps a strong thought towards the training position. is it a solid position? one that's been in existence a while and will likely not be extinguished down the road? i always take that into consideration too.

 

[bw1]

Did you say something? I was stareing at your avi.

 

[Faizakafez]

I said do it btw,

Is your income with the new position alot higher? ( i mean its capped, but is the new income (capped) realistically attainable.. I mean could you make the new amount right now with out working 200% overdrive?

 

[Dial_tone]

Simple - If the US office is in L.A. you take it...otherwise no.



(I already know where it is)

 

[superqt4u2nv]

I said do it btw,

Is your income with the new position alot higher? ( i mean its capped, but is the new income (capped) realistically attainable.. I mean could you make the new amount right now with out working 200% overdrive?

I have to find out the exact pay when I apply but I googled average pay for this postion is around $70k we tend to pay around market value or better. It is close to what I made in 07 don't even ask what I did with all my $$ I am shit with it I could had my boobs saved by now but that is another topic.

 

[Faizakafez]

If its close then ... hmmm thats a tough one.. I would say no, because your making about the same plus you have the perks too.. if u continue to do well, then you can apply for the sales manger when that opens up,sure you want have the trainer experince but if your preformance is crazy good they can't deny that fact, this person can sell and would make a good manager etc.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

If its close then ... hmmm thats a tough one.. I would say no, because your making about the same plus you have the perks too.. if u continue to do well, then you can apply for the sales manger when that opens up,sure you want have the trainer experince but if your preformance is crazy good they can't deny that fact, this person can sell and would make a good manager etc.

Yes plus you have to also take into account year over year growth in sales it is happening I made around 15k more then I did last year and if things progress the same way it will be the same type of growth. I am actually shotting to be one of the 6 figure earners for 08 there is around a dozen or so now. I guess I kinda made my mind up.

 

[billfred]

This one is quite easy for me - interview for the new job.

Always take an opportunity to learn new skills and re-invent. It only make you more valuable down the line. Also, you are going to get paid more and a steady salary - very important as we are coming into some rough times in the economy.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

This one is quite easy for me - interview for the new job.

Always take an opportunity to learn new skills and re-invent. It only make you more valuable down the line. Also, you are going to get paid more and a steady salary - very important as we are coming into some rough times in the economy.

Not in Canada

Also if it were to trickle down here then that job would be gone as it is based on new growth I would primarly be training new hires so my current postion would be safe as I am a high prefomer.

 

[redshirt27se]

whats the pay difference?

 

[ponyfitness]

Personally even the extra money (which it sounds like it wouldn't be for long) isn't worth not making your own hours and losing a business you just spent two years building. Think about the flexibility you would lose and the fact you would be stuck in an office all day.

If you have been in your position for two years you should be up for a promotion, especially if you are performing like you say you are. Start pushing for one and get your extra $$$ that way.

 

[Scotsman]

Not in Canada

Also if it were to trickle down here then that job would be gone as it is based on new growth I would primarly be training new hires so my current postion would be safe as I am a high prefomer.

Never assume your job is safe, all it takes with most companies is a bad month and they will forget about all you have done prior.

I say at least interview for it. It's always a good thing to add to your resume. Also if it will help you get the manager job then why not? The key to sustiaining yourself in a company/profession is to diversify yourself so you are a more valuable asset.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[jerseyrugger76]

Personally, I thought of sales as sort of a limited career path. Having been a stockbroker prior to going to grad school, it seemed as though the only thing sales had to offer was money and that was about the extent of it. I needed more. Perhaps the type of selling you do and/or your firm has more to offer. In the end, however, if you leave and find that you really prefer sales, you can always go back, as the contacts you have now are contacts that you can keep going forward no matter what you do.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

My experience in our business is that the more tools you can gain in your tool chest (no pun intended) the better. If it increases your pay and gives you the opportunity to excel in yet another area of your company go for it. You won't be disappointed. Your company will see you as versitile and agile, plus it makes you more marketable.

If it dosent work out are you really burning any bridges by takeing it? Can you most likely go back to your old job? If yes the what do you have to lose.

 

[vixensghost]

Never assume your job is safe, all it takes with most companies is a bad month and they will forget about all you have done prior.

I say at least interview for it. It's always a good thing to add to your resume. Also if it will help you get the manager job then why not? The key to sustiaining yourself in a company/profession is to diversify yourself so you are a more valuable asset.

Cheers,
Scotsman

BINGO!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Never assume your job is safe, all it takes with most companies is a bad month and they will forget about all you have done prior.

I say at least interview for it. It's always a good thing to add to your resume. Also if it will help you get the manager job then why not? The key to sustiaining yourself in a company/profession is to diversify yourself so you are a more valuable asset.

Cheers,
Scotsman

I am in sales most of my success come from being so confidant. I have seen a lot of reps get them self in a bad slump with negative thinking. This opportunity will likely come around again in the the next year if I am not a manager by then I will then take my shot at it. I have some goals I haven't hit in my mind to be the best sales rep I need to be to be a great manger. I have yet to ship half a million in a month and all though I make good money I am not making 6 figures and I can. I need to be balling to build confidence in the members that get me as a manager. In my mind it is not a matter of if it is only when and I can be patient it is something I need to work on before I start at a manager. I love what I do I am lucky I know so many people that hate there jobs.

 

[Jon79]

I am in sales most of my success come from being so confidant. I have seen a lot of reps get them self in a bad slump with negative thinking. This opportunity will likely come around again in the the next year if I am not a manager by then I will then take my shot at it. I have some goals I haven't hit in my mind to be the best sales rep I need to be to be a great manger. I have yet to ship half a million in a month and all though I make good money I am not making 6 figures and I can. I need to be balling to build confidence in the members that get me as a manager. In my mind it is not a matter of if it is only when and I can be patient it is something I need to work on before I start at a manager. I love what I do I am lucky I know so many people that hate there jobs.

im in sales too....once you are in sales its hard to go and do anything else

 

[javaguru]

Where will you make the most money over the long term?

 

[crazyjoe]

Ok so there is an opening at my company for corprate sales trainner. I am pretty sure I would get it if I interviewed. However I can't make up my mind as there are pro's and con's to it.

Pro's
I would be leading a team training and coaching them.
I would be learning new skills which make me more marketable if I ever decide to leave my company. (Fat chance I love it there.)
I believe the new skills and experience would make me better and stand out when applying for the sales manager role when it opens up again.

Con's
I leave my customers and all my accounts which I worked my ass off to gain. I started there over 2 years ago with zero accounts some so so leads list, a phone and grew my account base tp over 150 accounts half of which spend over $50k a year with me. I am in the top 25 sales reps in the company of over over 200 reps. I love sales leaving it would be hard. (Holy long point. LOL)

I leave behind the perks of being in sales meaning lots of free shit from vendors including trips cars etc.

I go from pretty much setting me own hours with in reason to being more accountable for when I am in the office.

Some grey area's can't decide if they are pro's or con's or fall in the middle.

My base pay goes way up makes me more stable. However I do lose that uncapped income one of the top reps if not top he must be he makes $250 k a year doing my dam job.

I have to travel to some of the us office this might screw with my traininng and diet / contest prep etc. Travel is not that much 3-4 weeks of the year.

Also I would be the only person in the office in my department I would report into someone in the us.

Who stole me pot o' gold?

 

[superqt4u2nv]

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If it dosent work out are you really burning any bridges by takeing it? Can you most likely go back to your old job? If yes the what do you have to lose.

I could go back but all my accounts would be gone and I would start at ground zero. One thing about taking the natural progression to sales manager from rep is all my accounts come with me my teams tops reps would get them and they would still have me. Good sales is all about personal relationships and I have great relationships in most off my larger spend accounts them knowing when I jump up the ladder I will still be there for them is a big advantage over other organizations.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Where will you make the most money over the long term?

That is pretty easy SALES!

 

[Razorguns]

stay where ur at.

 

[javaguru]

That is pretty easy SALES!

Then your question is answered....

 

[Dial_tone]

I could go back but all my accounts would be gone and I would start at ground zero. One thing about taking the natural progression to sales manager from rep is all my accounts come with me my teams tops reps would get them and they would still have me. Good sales is all about personal relationships and I have great relationships in most off my larger spend accounts them knowing when I jump up the ladder I will still be there for them is a big advantage over other organizations.

You need to be cultivating this relationship right here, ho.

 

[FriendlyCanadian]

I think you already answered your own question, your con list is massive and detailed while your pros list is short and cold.

based on your list alone it would be seriously ill advised for you to take the position and clearly you'd be unhappy about your decision if you took it.

 

[billfred]

That is pretty easy SALES!

Are you sure that is true? Do many people in your industry get promoted to sales to various Sr. positions?

I am not an expert in the sales field. I will tell you that I work in the oil and gas industry for about 25 yrs now and from my observation is that people who stay in the sales side, see little great growth in salary (I am talking 2 or 3 times) and usually stay in position for their entire career while the rest of the organization move up and beyond.

Pardon the pun but don't sale yourself out too early.

 

[galaxy]

What job will provide the most security is the one I would go with. I wouldnt factor your training into the equation. You've always been dedicated so that wont ever be an issue. You will work that out easy.

 

[Sub-Zero]

when do we bang?