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what roid have you used before and HATED??

I wouldnt say I hate it, but the first time I used test I was using Cyp, and I had a allergic reaction and had to go to the doc and spill the beans. I finished the cycle (cyp only) and the gains were good but I got fat and had to get new pants. THAT REALLY pissed me off. Just for my personal preference I am probably just going to do anabolic cycles with very little androgens thrown in. Because I really hate bloat and putting on any sort of fat from gear, I like the most lean gains possible, even if its only 7 or 10 pounds a cycle.
 
Fina! It really changed my personality for the worse, I had trouble sleeping, and it reduced my stamina. On the other hand, I lost fat while gaining muscle, so while I hate it, I love it more than I hate it so I'm going to do it again. I'm just going to do a lower dose and add some EQ next cycle.
 
Winstrol,

after just a week on it my joints were killing me, stopped it and now im ok again.

Every time Ive taken it joint pain was a real problem - never again!
 
I think I would have to say D-bol. Tired of the acne and fat bloat. Doesn't seem to help with adding muscle mass just pudge for me. Even though they are a little more harsh I will go with A-drol over these anyday.
 
so far, deca-winstrol-dbol are tied in first place.

Actually I loved winstrol.... I used all combinations (brands, injects, orals, etc..) when I was on it for 34 weeks and I never had any joint pain.
 
mrflexdiesel said:
I think I would have to say D-bol. Tired of the acne and fat bloat. Doesn't seem to help with adding muscle mass just pudge for me. Even though they are a little more harsh I will go with A-drol over these anyday.
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dbol for sure. Jesus i gained like 100000000 lbs of water from just looking at the stuff.


aside:
 
FaCkAnBaSsTeRd said:
(Clen) never again screwed up my vision. My cortisol levels hit the roof from 1 pill.
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Clen is not a steroid. It also has little to no impact on cortisol. It is a fairly pure beta 2 agonist.

No D-bol or Zambones here!
 
AAP said:
so far, deca-winstrol-dbol are tied in first place.

Actually I loved winstrol.... I used all combinations (brands, injects, orals, etc..) when I was on it for 34 weeks and I never had any joint pain.
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how was the hair line after that?
 
suspension, worst injection pain every and just not worth the pain
 
Zagreus said:


Clen is not a steroid. It also has little to no impact on cortisol. It is a fairly pure beta 2 against.

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I know it is not a steroid, but I totally disagree that it has no impact on cortisol levels. Your body produces cortisol when stressed, clen raises your heart rate, blood pressure etc, which would put stress on the body. I suffer from CSR

CSR is a condition which causes temporary or permanent impairment of vision. The symptoms are loss of sensitivity in dim light, usually in an oval shaped gray or brown area, blurring or distortion of the visual image. It is a result of the detachment of most of the layers of the retina (the back of the eye) from its supporting tissue as a result of the buildup of fluid. The buildup of fluid appears to be due to one or more small breaks in the retinal pigment epithelium. CSR is associated with high cortisol levels.

I haven't had an attack for years till I took that 1 fucking clen.
It raised my cortisol levels, and I had an attack in my left eye 6 hrs after taking it. I had to go for laser surgery to stop the leak, it worked but I have permanent damage to my retina.

Zagreus, you could say what you want about clen and what you read, but I talking from the actual experience of the effects and what I'm living with everyday because I took that fucking pill. I know I'm not the only one that has had bad experience with clen, alot of the other boards don't recommend even touching the shit.

One of the biggest mistakes I made was listening to post like these and not researching enough before I took the shit!
QUOTE]Originally posted by Zagreus


Clen is not a steroid. It also has little to no impact on cortisol. It is a fairly pure beta 2 against.

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anadrol and winny......

anadrol made me into a violent sack of water.

winny made me shed like crazy on only 200 mg's a week for 5-6 weeks....took 6 weeks post cycle, which was about 3 days ago, to stop shedding.

test enathate sucks too.....i got the worst acne you've ever seen on my back and shoulders from that shit. switched to sust and the sides went way down for whatever reason
 
zoom said:
Fina! It really changed my personality for the worse, I had trouble sleeping, and it reduced my stamina. On the other hand, I lost fat while gaining muscle, so while I hate it, I love it more than I hate it so I'm going to do it again. I'm just going to do a lower dose and add some EQ next cycle.
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get some EQ anxiety to go with the Tren Rage :( .
 
FaCkAnBaSsTeRd said:
(Clen) never again screwed up my vision. My cortisol levels hit the roof from 1 pill.
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if anything, clen is supposed to be anti-catabolic. how do u know cortisol hit the roof? if not by blood/saliva but by appearence of eye symptoms, perhaps something else other than cortisol triggers it as well?

also, perhaps somethiong else triggered stress-induced cortisol increase. if on clen probably also doing severe dieting &/or lots of aerobics/overtraining all of which cause you to produce mass quantities of cortisol.
 
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I'd have to say never again with Sust. If I wanted the flu I'd get the real flu. Followed closely be EQ, which makes me break out with acne in places I didn't think I could have zits. But I can't say I'll never use it again since I have a stash of it. Waste not want not.
 
Test - I'm never using it again. Dbol + fina works much better with fewer sides (for me). Test makes me a mad man, a sexual tyrannosaurus, but my wife hates it. I have a controllable sex drive on the other gear. No zits either. That's one thing i hated was breaking out on test. That and test bloat.
 
Havn't met a roid yet I didn't like. Guess I am lucky but my sides always seem to be pretty minor or manageable.
 
FaCkAnBaSsTeRd said:
(Clen) never again screwed up my vision. My cortisol levels hit the roof from 1 pill.
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Wow, sorry to hear about you eye problems... hope that improves for you, bro.

I'll give my vote to clen too. The sides - in my case chest pain - definitely outweigh any benefit for me. Scary stuff.
 
I'm on deca right now and I'm not much of a fan to be honest. I want to add some fina badly but I'm not gonna risk the crash of deca plus fina at the end of this one. Live and learn.
 
Fina due to insomnia, night sweats, etc. I also don't like winny or dbol.

I'm a picky juicer. Test only for me.
 
bad attitude on dbol and eq made me brake out in places I never have b4, tris a bunch of inflamed little pimples, and Im still not completely clear:( will be soon though thanks to isotrex(topical accutane)
 
Winny and EQ. Had experienced significant hairloss and minimal gains with both... never got the EQ hunger and vascularity others seem to get with it either. I loves my test/tren...
 
Holy crap. This entire thread almost puts me off juice, I can't stress ALMOST enough however.

I've never done winny, put was planning a test/winny/clen cutter in the spring, this scares me a bit, is it really gonna turn me into a bald, tired man with arthritus. Not sure thats what I'm looking for. Some one chirp in and tell me the results are top notch!!
 
QV EQ because it sucks. Its worthelss. Its weird how roids affect people differently. The roids that give me sides are fina and dbol and they are both worth the sides i get. My fuse gets really short on both and if i take them together i have to really watch it or i start to break stuff. lol. EQ kills my hair also but i love the veins it gives me.

Also no matter what roid i am on i get better wood. I am on fina 75mg ed and my boners are crazy. I know it does not make any sence but i am not complaining.
 
I'm suprised at some of these responses. For those that mentioned side effect related reasons, alot of those sides should only be kicking in at reasonably high dosages. Were any of you guys getting those winny sides at a dose of 50mg ED or less? Or are we talking 100mg ED? Obviously any steroid in high dosages will create sides. No flame, just curious what the dosages were.
 
Yes i am curiouis also. I have used just about every winny but i always keep it at 50mg ed. Zamboons IMO are by far the strongest.

Stillgoing said:
I'm suprised at some of these responses. For those that mentioned side effect related reasons, alot of those sides should only be kicking in at reasonably high dosages. Were any of you guys getting those winny sides at a dose of 50mg ED or less? Or are we talking 100mg ED? Obviously any steroid in high dosages will create sides. No flame, just curious what the dosages were.
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Sust. Results were good, but pain was unbearable.
 
Organon yellow tops nandrolone......Fake shit from my i'st time and last time good supplier in chez.
All that poking and nothing!!!!! and don't get me started on IP!!!!!

RADAR
 
I have only used two compounds so far... EQ and winstrol. I loved both, but on the winstrol, when I was stretching my zambons out... I would do an inject on one day, and 50 mg orals the next day... I used thai 5mg winstrol I got from a dude (PP) that I have seen around for a LONG time, and the third day on them, I was crapping blood in the toilet. I discontinued using them and started with another brand, it stopped. I gave the Thais away the guy I gave them too complained of the same thing. I posted a thread here and a few other people said those did it to them as well.
 
I want to spend next year on EQ, Fina and Test prop.
 
I personally love winny... oral or depot

cant take TEST PROP, OMNI's, etc. I actually bruise from the shot and cant move for a few days.
 
muscleup said:
DECA....The worst drug EVER as far as HPTA supression....I WILL NEVER TOUCH IT AGAIN...
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Dead on there muscleup. I hate that stuff, but the real bitch is that it made me grow like nothing else whilst I was on, but once I was off, the real challenge was to get my penis to grow - wasn't having any of it!!:(
 
It isn't that I don't like any of them, but I would rather not use sust., but mainly because of the Prop in it. I don't like propinate.

Whiskey
 
STEN... I fucking broke out for the first time ever when taking stuff. I gave the remainder to my buddy and the same shit happened to him. Ever since then I get some acne on my bach when cylcing. Never had it before in my life until SSSTTTTEEEENNNNN... Sorry, repressed memories!
 
Well, I am on fina right now and I love the strength and hardness to my muscles, but I fucking hate the emotional rollercoaster it has put me on. I feel like a 13 year old again. Everything makes me angry or sad or overly-happy. I can't find any middle ground. I can even feel the mood swings coming but I can't do anything about them. I have been on for 4 weeks now and I have almost left my wife twice over stupid shit from the past that I thought I had buried long ago. I will never do fina again. I think my wife would kill me if i did. I would have to spend the 6 weeks in a cabin far away from her I think. It's too bad too, because like I said, the strength and fat loss are awesome. I just wish I could control the mood swings.

-G
 
well i only have tried dbol deca and winny oral, but this thread is about tried and hated so......

dbol, it gave me low back pumps that actually stopped me training. twice. full blown flu doesnt stop me nor does an injury, but this shit did! and i didnt feel any stronger from it. the distinct benefit was that i did put on some new muscle.

on the other hand, winny i like, strength immediate,

maybe i just like strength drugs


err isnt dbol a strength drug?
 
My last cycle included deca and winny the winny was Zambon but I believe old, so did not see great results. For the first time on any cycle I was hit bad with Deca Dick, so staying away from it for a few years.
 
AAP said:
I have only used two compounds so far... EQ and winstrol. I loved both, but on the winstrol, when I was stretching my zambons out... I would do an inject on one day, and 50 mg orals the next day... I used thai 5mg winstrol I got from a dude (PP) that I have seen around for a LONG time, and the third day on them, I was crapping blood in the toilet. I discontinued using them and started with another brand, it stopped. I gave the Thais away the guy I gave them too complained of the same thing. I posted a thread here and a few other people said those did it to them as well.
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Never anything besides EQ and winstrol? Why not test? Yeah it androgenic and can aromatize like no one's business but it IS the real thing adn I seriously doubt that any of the REALLY big guys could have done it without test. Got a love/hate thing going with Deca. Hate that it shuts me down for, oh, I don't know, 200 years, but hallelujah for the joint relief.
 
this thread is hilarious.

i'm not going to show it to my wife though, she will make me do things i dont want to do, like stop sticking pins in my bum
 
Without a doubt

FINA!!

I like sex way to much and with that shit I didnt even think about sex.

Worse fucking drug on the planet. Took me months to get over it too... even with Clomid.
 
I don't hate any of them, but I have a list of complaints.... just things I learn to live with I guess... I'll name the good and the bad:

FINA: I stink like FINA all day and My pee has a strong smell to it.... I have to stay away from using the Urinal in a restaurant if there is anybody else there because the smell of FINA pee is strong, I have gotten weird looks before, I also get knotts on my ass after injection and they last for about three days, I'm sure there is some scar tissue build up too. after an 8 week cycle of glute shots my ass begins to look bigger than JLo's. +sides: Strength gains are awesome, Anger/Drive makes for some great workouts...

Sust: Bloat, Pimples, Bloat and more Bloat.... aside from the bloat no other sides. + Great strength/size gains and just an overal good feeling. Brigns out my Animal side makes me territorial and competitive.

EQ: Back Acne... + Sides: Awesome hardness vascularity, and when combined with Test... great size.

DECA: blOat! ... + My joints feel great while on it, 0 injuries while on Deca cycles...

Those the ones worth mentioning.
 
Jeez so many people on this thread hate drugs that aromatise.

Thats why we have anti-e's fella's :)

Ill comment on what I dislike about drugs:
-Test + anti e' -- great drug, I hate the acne from it though.
-Deca -- deca dick, need I say more
-Dbol -- high BP, although thats easily controllable (for me
anyway)
 
Nothing that I really hated per se. I like test as a drug but I get gyno even at super low dose so anti-e's are a must.
I also like Fina but after 8 weeks or so the lethargy was so bad I had to come off. I woud use it again but not more than 6 weeks and probably only 75mg EOD.
 
hellorhih2o said:


Never anything besides EQ and winstrol? Why not test? Yeah it androgenic and can aromatize like no one's business but it IS the real thing adn I seriously doubt that any of the REALLY big guys could have done it without test. Got a love/hate thing going with Deca. Hate that it shuts me down for, oh, I don't know, 200 years, but hallelujah for the joint relief.
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I have only done one cycle. I am using test in my next cycle.
 
AAP said:


I have only done one cycle. I am using test in my next cycle.
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Just be a doll and warn the greater FT Lauderdale area first. If you're that frisky on just EQ, someone will end up in the ER when you add 1g of test.

(damn it AAP, I'm trying to get a rise out of *you* and all the other new mods on GS's thread but you're not biting one bit. What are you now, nice? :mad: )
 
I hate winny
Tried it a few times at different doses and saw pretty much no results and got terrible joint pain. Some of my friends swear by it and I dont see how.
 
two years ago I was using deca 600mg per week.....in my third week....in a dark room......with my girl friend.........somebody was performing a good job.....really good and then.........puff.........die.....everything was quiet......and my girlfriend was blew....blew and blew.....and nothing happened ....2 days later a was single...........I HATE DECA....by the way.....I was with 1 gram of test...with reforvit I got a lot of zits in chest and back ...and proviron almost let me bald.......I hate them ....he,he,he...
 
dbol

i have done it twice and i hated it everytime. it gives me gyno super easy and im lethargic as fuck on it

never again
 
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