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string_bean00
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needtogetaas said:
how much does amp come to cost per workout/serving?
I'm a stiffwad and want to try it (need new pre-workout boost) but don't want to pay more than $1 or so per serving
What kind of supps is everyone taking nowadays
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how much does amp come to cost per workout/serving?
I'm a stiffwad and want to try it (need new pre-workout boost) but don't want to pay more than $1 or so per serving
needtogetaas
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http://www.agxsports.com/KillahBee said:
link to prodcut bro...link to my thread about it.....http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/s...ome-more-hype-omegas-amplify-02-a-556960.html
truly I stand behind it so much a really will come out of my own pocket to pay you back if you dont love it....
needtogetaas
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its 12 pills for people that are used to stems I will get omega in here but I think its around that coast bro.string_bean00 said:
needtogetaas said:
I knew it! That's why none of the sponsors can sell ephedrine for half of what gas stations do and still make a killing profit.
Okay, jeez -- so we have a total of:
1) Ephedrine HCl;
2) Ephedra, herbal, with std'd alkaloids;
3) Norephedrine, I believe as HCl salt, of the short-lived NYC stack;
4) Pseudoephedrine, of Sudafed;
5) Ephedrine SO4, which I haven't tried before;
6) Synephrine HCl, with a slightly different name;
7) Phenylephrine.
Holy crap, lol. Am I missing anything from the eph list?
Yeah, I've never tried synephrine, so I can't comment. But I've taken eph HCl for over ten years, so I know that stuff like the back of my hand. I should try it.
This would be significant to me, ITO differences: "to a lesser degree the beta receptors, which can increase heart rate and contractility. It appears that synephrine' primary action, though, is through activation of the beta-3 adrenergic receptors that are found on fat cells, thus promoting weight loss by breakdown of fat." So it would appear that the two substances have a slightly different mechanisms... but I don't know the specific mechanism of synephrine. Comparing to ephedrine, whos general mechanism is thus:
"Ephedrine is a sympathomimetic amine - that is, its principal mechanism of action relies on its indirect action on the adrenergic receptor system, which is part of the sympathetic nervous system or SNS. Whilst it may have weak agonist activity at α- and β-adrenergic receptors, the principal mechanism is to displace norepinephrine from storage vesicles in presynaptic neurons. The displaced norepinephrine is released into the neuronal synapse where it is free to activate the postsynaptic adrenergic receptors.
Ephedrine's mechanism of action on neurotransmission in the brain is wide. Its action as an agonist at most major norepinephrine receptors and its ability to induce moderate stimulation of the release of both dopamine and to a lesser extent, serotonin, is presumed to have a major role in its mechanism of action."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
Ephedrine:
Synephrine:
Where the only differences are the alcohol group on the fourth carbon of the benzene molecule and the methyl group on the whatever-it's-name-is chain. So they're not too different structurally.
needtogetaas
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i looked at it the same way...synephrine seems to be dam close and dose act on the same receptors.samoth said:I knew it! That's why none of the sponsors can sell ephedrine for half of what gas stations do and still make a killing profit.
Okay, jeez -- so we have a total of:
1) Ephedrine HCl;
2) Ephedra, herbal, with std'd alkaloids;
3) Norephedrine, I believe as HCl salt, of the short-lived NYC stack;
4) Pseudoephedrine, of Sudafed;
5) Ephedrine SO4, which I haven't tried before;
6) Synephrine HCl, with a slightly different name;
7) Phenylephrine.
Holy crap, lol. Am I missing anything from the eph list?
Yeah, I've never tried synephrine, so I can't comment. But I've taken eph HCl for over ten years, so I know that stuff like the back of my hand. I should try it.
This would be significant to me, ITO differences: "to a lesser degree the beta receptors, which can increase heart rate and contractility. It appears that synephrine' primary action, though, is through activation of the beta-3 adrenergic receptors that are found on fat cells, thus promoting weight loss by breakdown of fat." So it would appear that the two substances have a slightly different mechanisms... but I don't know the specific mechanism of synephrine. Comparing to ephedrine, whos general mechanism is thus:
"Ephedrine is a sympathomimetic amine - that is, its principal mechanism of action relies on its indirect action on the adrenergic receptor system, which is part of the sympathetic nervous system or SNS. Whilst it may have weak agonist activity at α- and β-adrenergic receptors, the principal mechanism is to displace norepinephrine from storage vesicles in presynaptic neurons. The displaced norepinephrine is released into the neuronal synapse where it is free to activate the postsynaptic adrenergic receptors.
Ephedrine's mechanism of action on neurotransmission in the brain is wide. Its action as an agonist at most major norepinephrine receptors and its ability to induce moderate stimulation of the release of both dopamine and to a lesser extent, serotonin, is presumed to have a major role in its mechanism of action."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephedrine
Ephedrine:
Synephrine:
Where the only differences are the alcohol group on the fourth carbon of the benzene molecule and the methyl group on the whatever-it's-name-is chain. So they're not too different structurally.
javaguru
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Luckily, the pharma drug is still sold OTC.samoth said:Really? I never knew that.
Figures, there's finally a perfect drug out there for me, and they find ways to screw with it.
I should take up smoking instead. Obviously, ephedrine is far too dangerous for me, and smoking is just as cheap.
I always took the pharma version, ephedrine HCL or sulfate, over the herbal derivatives....string_bean00 said:
YES!!
I got a box (9 bottles of 60-ct) of that standardized ephedra alkaloid crap, and it was nothing compared to ephedrine HCl.
The gauf never bothered me. Ever. And I can easily pop 8-12 of the 25/200 eph/gauf tabs a day and sleep like a baby. Some people I know have gotten nausious from popping 4-6 of those pills, and I'm guessing it's from the gauf, but hey, never bothered me. It's great for my asthma, too.
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