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What is my reason for lowered libido and soft erections?

pitbullrocco

pitbullrocco

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this is what i did:

dbol @ 40mg/day for first 3 weeks.
the following e3d for 12 days (4 total shots):
sust - 300mg
eq - 200mg
deca - 200mg
then i dropped the deca & went to twice injects weekly of following:
sust - 300
eq - 400

been using AIFM, 2 sprays day, aromasin 20mg e3d or so for good measure.

i'm on week 4 and i can't get that rock solid erection i'm known for.....its about at 80%.....and that other 20% makes a helluva difference.....

is it the deca thats killing me? i haven't shot deca the last 3 injects....should've used NPP. i also started proviron on monday at 75mg/day.....i'm hoping to have it kick in pretty good by the 26th....

is it possible the sus is underdosed?? and should i cease injections altogether for a few weeks, see what happens?

thanks for the help. on sust last time, i wanted to bang the air. i don't get it. i know its only 4 weeks, but i had a better libido at the first week of my cycle..... :worried:
 
pitbullrocco said:
this is what i did:

dbol @ 40mg/day for first 3 weeks.
the following e3d for 12 days (4 total shots):
sust - 300mg
eq - 200mg
deca - 200mg
then i dropped the deca & went to twice injects weekly of following:
sust - 300
eq - 400

been using AIFM, 2 sprays day, aromasin 20mg e3d or so for good measure.

i'm on week 4 and i can't get that rock solid erection i'm known for.....its about at 80%.....and that other 20% makes a helluva difference.....

is it the deca thats killing me? i haven't shot deca the last 3 injects....should've used NPP. i also started proviron on monday at 75mg/day.....i'm hoping to have it kick in pretty good by the 26th....

is it possible the sus is underdosed?? and should i cease injections altogether for a few weeks, see what happens?

thanks for the help. on sust last time, i wanted to bang the air. i don't get it. i know its only 4 weeks, but i had a better libido at the first week of my cycle..... :worried:
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hey bro i had the same problem a few months back its the fucking deca,all i take is hrt amounts and wanted to add a little deca for joints and it was only 100mgs weak and sure enough a couple weaks into it,half ass hard on no matter what i did 4 weaks into it i stopped the deca and took proviron 50 mgs day and that worked for me but not right away it took a couple of weaks for the deca to clear my system and then all was good,even with cialis it was only 80% for a few weaks that was scary,i will never take deca again,what about npp i have never tryed that.
 
200 mg of deca seems like it wouldnt do it, with all that test in there. Maybe too much estrogen supression? Are you positive all the gear is real?
 
skacorica said:
200 mg of deca seems like it wouldnt do it, with all that test in there. Maybe too much estrogen supression? Are you positive all the
gear is real?
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well, it did end up being about 800mg of deca in 12 days.....that is a lot

not sure about estro suppression.... i have missed a few sprays here and there, so i can't figure out if i'm not using enough or i've used too much!!! jesus vomit.

the gear is from a reputable contributor on EF and i've used the same sus last time (also with deca) and i was a walking boner after a while.....just hope the label didn't maybe accidently get put on a deca bottle....LOL

i was also told to increase the EQ and that would help.....but i'm thinking i want to stop for a few weeks or something.....
 
medrep said:
This has got to be quote of the week
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yeah its fucked up mane.....the deca should've even be hitting me this hard at this point.....somethings messed up
 
nandrolone- and expect it to last for a bit 10 day half life, 3 half lives to elimination. But also noting that nandrolone profoundly affect progesterone levels- there have been no studies on how long that lasts.
 
Vascular Freak said:
I would guess that its the high levels of anabolics mixed with a high dosage of anti-Es, that is what always kills my pole.
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so don't inject this week or lower for a few weeks?

or should i double the sus and do sus only for a few shots?
 
whatcha think VF?
 
pitbullrocco said:
well, it did end up being about 800mg of deca in 12 days.....that is a lot..
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not enuf imo to matter

the most likely culprit is you're overdoing it on the anti-e/a

unless you're completely hypersensitive to estrogen and had gyno before, try cutting them out, then only add them back at the first sign of tenderness or itchiness. peeps tend to overdo the protection and cause more problems.
 
Mavafanculo said:
not enuf imo to matter

the most likely culprit is you're overdoing it on the anti-e/a

unless you're completely hypersensitive to estrogen and had gyno before, try cutting them out, then only add them back at the first sign of tenderness or itchiness. peeps tend to overdo the protection and cause more problems.
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ok, i hear ya.....i haven't had any tenderness or itchiness at all, probably b/c i don't need that much....you're prob right.....i'll try this out

thanks bro
 
All you need is a hot 18 yr old with big tits and an ass that tastes like French Vanilla Ice Cream and you'll be cured.
 
pitbullrocco said:
whatcha think VF?
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Exactly, I would cut back on the eq and deca and bump the sus and dbol a little. Also, cut back on the anti e's and let you estro levels come up a bit. You may notice a little water retention but that beats the hell out of having no sex drive if your with a chick.

I normally allow estro levels to stay up a bit if I getting laid often, if you're not and want to lean out a bit then up the anti-es'.

I am in the same boat as you right now, too much eq, primo, and letro/aifm to get good wood.
 
pitbullrocco said:
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i'm on week 4 and i can't get that rock solid erection i'm known for.....its about at 80%.....and that other 20% makes a helluva difference.....
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you're actually gay and just finally realizing that chicks dont do it for you?


:evil:

lol

:rainbow:
 
pitbullrocco said:
this is what i did:

dbol @ 40mg/day for first 3 weeks.
the following e3d for 12 days (4 total shots):
sust - 300mg
eq - 200mg
deca - 200mg
then i dropped the deca & went to twice injects weekly of following:
sust - 300
eq - 400

been using AIFM, 2 sprays day, aromasin 20mg e3d or so for good measure.

i'm on week 4 and i can't get that rock solid erection i'm known for.....its about at 80%.....and that other 20% makes a helluva difference.....

is it the deca thats killing me? i haven't shot deca the last 3 injects....should've used NPP. i also started proviron on monday at 75mg/day.....i'm hoping to have it kick in pretty good by the 26th....

is it possible the sus is underdosed?? and should i cease injections altogether for a few weeks, see what happens?

thanks for the help. on sust last time, i wanted to bang the air. i don't get it. i know its only 4 weeks, but i had a better libido at the first week of my cycle..... :worried:
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To counter "deca dick" try adding some winny, always worked for me. If you can't run winny, than drop the deca and go with eq

Good luck
 
Don’t worry about it, increase the test to 600mg per week for 3 weeks and pop some Viagra for the holidays,

You were not on enough Deca or on it long enough for it to give you Deca dick,


Something else is going on in your head.
 
BigCracker said:
All you need is a hot 18 yr old with big tits and an ass that tastes like French Vanilla Ice Cream and you'll be cured.
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I think I have some sort of problem that needs that cure also.
 
bmcadoo44 said:
Do yall think if he ran just NPP in place of the deca, it wouldnt shut his cock down?

thats what im hopin for
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No, it would get out of his system faster though.
 
Deca affects everyone differently, just like anything else... I personally keep my deca dosages between 400-600mg /wk.... Test is almost always at around 750mg. Minimal use of anti-e's. Never had much of a problem with ED during those cycles... I've also thrown in proviron in subsequent cycles at 50mg ED and that helped alot.... but as others have said, give it time....it takes about a week for it to kick in for me
 
bmcadoo44 said:
what about with some test prop at 100mg eod aslo for the npp as well.
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If he is that sensitive to the Deca than I dont see how increasing the test would help. Maybe, but if you get Deca dick on 200mg EW I dont think running prop instead of sust will do anything beneficial.

If you are worried about yourself, you may not have any problems with Deca so dont sweat it until your cock goes limp. Or if you are that worried dont run it or any other 19-nor.
 
bmcadoo44 said:
what about with some test prop at 100mg eod aslo for the npp as well.
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From my knowledge,
Always good to run test , as the foundation of any cycle. My first cycle ever I put on 28 lbs from a test E + Deca cycle. Never got shutdown or deca dick because the Test was always higher , and dont know if this was mentioned before in this post but its a good idea to stop running Deca before the Test ideally like 2 weeks. Don't know jack shit of NPP though =/ just trying to help if I can.

:)
 
its the deca. Your progesterone levels are probably all out of wack. Takes a awhile to normalize.
 
If you are taking a higher level of anabolics than test you will most likely lose your dick.

Thats how it always works for me anyway. All the proviron and cialis in the world did nothing for me when I was hitting high primo and eq dosages. The simple solution was to almost drop the anabolics and anti e's and bump the proviron to 75-100mg ed along with atleast 500mg test. Then you'll be "banging":)
 
ok, i'm back from vacation. well almost.

did the prov for 12 days....a few days at 100.....the rest at 50.....it did nothing for me. i also popped some winny for 12 days alongside the prov. didn't feel a damn thing.

got some viagra. the real deal. little blueys. did absolutely nothing for me. even at 200mg. yes, i sure did. it just gave me a soft erection for 6 hours. i prayed for a 357 magnum to fall out of the sky.

its been 3 weeks, almost 4, since last deca shot. i still have no libido and a soft dick. i am almost 100% convinced the sus i have is not sus. either its deca or bunk. at my doses, i shouldn't be having this problem.

so here i am 5 weeks in my cycle and i'm quitting. fuck this shit. it aint worth it. you can't ever be for sure the shit you get is right. so i'm starting my pct as soon as i get back home. hcg, clomid, aifm.

i'm having my gear tested too. i will report back.

thanks for the comments and responses. except the guy that said i'm gay. you wish. lol
 
Looks like either suppression from nandrolone or too much AI. I'd drop the Aromasin and just use AIFM.

BMJ
 
Vascular Freak said:
I would guess that its the high levels of anabolics mixed with a high dosage of anti-Es, that is what always kills my pole.
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Yeah I run A LOT of anti-E's precontest and my libido drops in the toilet. wood is the same but not the desire to use it much....could also be the 3.4% bf at the time. Proviron ALWAYS increases my libido, wood and load! I love the stuff! Good luck man!

Quad
 
MR. BMJ said:
Looks like either suppression from nandrolone or too much AI. I'd drop the Aromasin and just use AIFM.

BMJ
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i stopped the aromasin on dec 15th. also completely stopped the AIFM a few days after that. been waiting for puffiness or itchiness, but i haven't had neither at all yet.

my last 2 shots were on the 21st and 25th and were 450mg of sustanon only. i feel nothing....except killing myself b/c i can't fuck.

i have to question the proviron and the sustanon......hate to do that, but i am.
 
bmcadoo44 said:
Im on test prop 100mg eod and npp 100mg eod. Will my libido be affected by this dose or should i be good to go?
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if you're anything like me, you're function will be broke too. even though its npp. keep us updated.
 
get456 said:
just trying to help! LOL
:p
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sorry. didn't help.

thx though
 
Sometimes once depressed, it will take sex drive awhile to return.....this will vary between each individual.

Fake/bunk gear could be an issue as well. Although only a lab analysis can determine this with 100% certainty.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
Sometimes once depressed, it will take sex drive awhile to return.....this will vary between each individual.

Fake/bunk gear could be an issue as well. Although only a lab analysis can determine this with 100% certainty.

BMJ
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what would be making me depressed? don't feel it.....

i think the sus tests are upwards $200. thats just to find out whether i should continue with same source or get new one. then the fkn cycle starts all over again. i think i'll send off for it anyway.....just to put it to rest.

crapness.
 
Could be from suppressed libido/test levels or too low or too high estrogen levels. It's hard to tell. If known whether the gear is legit....this would help eliminate some of the guessing. Also, not getting the results from a cycle alone (regardless of whether it is a fake) can make one feel depressed.

If you have or can get some test Prop, then i'd add that in......if low test, then this will definately help. Take it with Proviron if possible.

BMJ
 
Also, the more you worry about sex drive, then the worse it makes it. You need to feel loosened up and relaxed. I've done this in the past.....to much emphasis on the whole sex thingy can make things worse from the added stress.

Yes, it could be stress related as well, as stated earlier. This effects me tremendously at times.

BMJ
 
MR. BMJ said:
Could be from suppressed libido/test levels or too low or too high estrogen levels. It's hard to tell. If known whether the gear is legit....this would help eliminate some of the guessing. Also, not getting the results from a cycle alone (regardless of whether it is a fake) can make one feel depressed.

If you have or can get some test Prop, then i'd add that in......if low test, then this will definately help. Take it with Proviron if possible.

BMJ
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i'm only in week 5, so i'm not looking for physical results. i just know that my last dbol-sus/deca-winny cycle i wasn't having this problem.....matter of fact, it was just the opposite and starting around the same week.....i put a word in with my dude, so i'm gonna see what he thinks

thx bro
 
MR. BMJ said:
Also, the more you worry about sex drive, then the worse it makes it. You need to feel loosened up and relaxed. I've done this in the past.....to much emphasis on the whole sex thingy can make things worse from the added stress.

Yes, it could be stress related as well, as stated earlier. This effects me tremendously at times.

BMJ
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i am aware of this. i know how to 'get it done.' this is not a mental thing. i do not believe its stress-related either.

but i hear ya and you have a good point in general.
 
DieselGunz said:
what lab where you using?
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i'd actually rather not publicly say at this point. it's a highly respected, used and recommended lab however.
 
Everybody always blames deca for hard on problems. And I am sick of hearing that bullshit. Any steroid can cause problems with erection, because all steroids suppress natural production of testosterone. Normally this happens later or at the end of a cycle. give some HCG a shot that will fix your problem. Even if it is in the middle of your cycle.
 
uhhh i will never run deca again...it never fucked with me...but i hate all these horror stories...hope all works out for you bro...let the prov do its thing and I'm sure you will get over the hump
 
Big Wes said:
Everybody always blames deca for hard on problems. And I am sick of hearing that bullshit. Any steroid can cause problems with erection, because all steroids suppress natural production of testosterone. Normally this happens later or at the end of a cycle. give some HCG a shot that will fix your problem. Even if it is in the middle of your cycle.
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i'm ending my cycle early. starting hcg next week before clomid.

what do you think? 500iu eod for 2 weeks?
 
pitbullrocco said:
i'm ending my cycle early. starting hcg next week before clomid.

what do you think? 500iu eod for 2 weeks?
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EQ and winny gave me the same problems. Didn't feel 100% when hard.
 
would it be too suppressive to do 50-100mg of ethanate/week while doing a few weeks of hcg?
 
bro, I had some dick problems and thought it was from this compound, that supplement, etc....it was all mental and totally killed me....more I thought worse it got! I'd be afraid it might get even worse going into PCT for you
 
i'll let you know in 3 months whether it is mental or not.

thx
 
What is you BP?

If it is raised, then this can effect libido as well.

Just something to think about.

BMJ
 
my BP? not sure....can't you check that in drug stores at that little machine you put your arm in?
 
pitbullrocco said:
this is what i did:

dbol @ 40mg/day for first 3 weeks.
the following e3d for 12 days (4 total shots):
sust - 300mg
eq - 200mg
deca - 200mg
then i dropped the deca & went to twice injects weekly of following:
sust - 300
eq - 400

been using AIFM, 2 sprays day, aromasin 20mg e3d or so for good measure.

i'm on week 4 and i can't get that rock solid erection i'm known for.....its about at 80%.....and that other 20% makes a helluva difference.....

is it the deca thats killing me? i haven't shot deca the last 3 injects....should've used NPP. i also started proviron on monday at 75mg/day.....i'm hoping to have it kick in pretty good by the 26th....

is it possible the sus is underdosed?? and should i cease injections altogether for a few weeks, see what happens?

thanks for the help. on sust last time, i wanted to bang the air. i don't get it. i know its only 4 weeks, but i had a better libido at the first week of my cycle..... :worried:
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i had exactly the same problem while on 750mg sus week. after examining everything it turned out to be my girlfriend, she was too fat! ive since upgraded to a slimmer fitter model and im happy to report rock solid boners the second i lay my hands on her... definately worth a try imho
 
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