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what is it with average looking wimmins

calveless wonder

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i don't even think i could get with one if i tried.
i was just testing a theory tonight about how average looking women(like 6's-6.5's or so...maybe a little lower) act awkward around me most of the time. not that i really want to get with them other than on a rare super wasted occasion, but it makes for lame social interactions. just get a weird vibe....bad body language, etc. not all, but a majority

is it a self esteem thing on their part? it's a crazy phenomenon....The girls that i meet that are 7.0-8.5 are always very friendly and the easiest for me to click with and bust on a little bit...they kinda get my personality i think.9-10's take a little bit of cracking but warm up to me as long as i don't buy into their bullshit.

anyone else ever notice this?
 
put a bit of effort into the initial (ie smile, fluff, or better yet drop a dlv about yourself) and theyll warm up to you. sounds like youre too high value from the outset. its probably something youre doing with your BL or just overall value projection

lots of the better looking guys or those who carry themselves well get this sort of stuff just from the passive aspect of their presentation (myself included) so you need to get the active part (verbal, tonality bla bla) to offset it

its a good filter tho...clingy 6s are not cool when there are equally clingy 8s lol
 
GoldenDelicious said:
put a bit of effort into the initial (ie smile, fluff, or better yet drop a dlv about yourself) and theyll warm up to you. sounds like youre too high value from the outset. its probably something youre doing with your BL or just overall value projection

lots of the better looking guys or those who carry themselves well get this sort of stuff just from the passive aspect of their presentation (myself included) so you need to get the active part (verbal, tonality bla bla) to offset it

its a good filter tho...clingy 6s are not cool when there are equally clingy 8s lol

lol...makes sense about the value thing. i need to give myself a bit more credit i guess. Usually my verbal aspect is to bust their balls a little (like anybody guy/girl i meet, really) but they respond the wrong way. either way it's not a big deal because i don't "go" for those type of girls, but the dynamics behind it are interesting.

btw puddle, if you treat a girl with low esteem like shit (i.e. they know they're not that attractive), it'll make them feel like shit and hate you. that only works with better looking girls
 
going CF or busting on them if their value is too low usually results in a negative knee jerk reaction - they blow you off because youre squashing their self esteem and so arent having fun

try making fun of yourself/telling a self deprecating joke instead. theyll be on you like splooge and sublimes chest

(hiiiii sublime lol ;) )
 
calveless wonder said:
i don't even think i could get with one if i tried.
i was just testing a theory tonight about how average looking women(like 6's-6.5's or so...maybe a little lower) act awkward around me most of the time. not that i really want to get with them other than on a rare super wasted occasion, but it makes for lame social interactions. just get a weird vibe....bad body language, etc. not all, but a majority

is it a self esteem thing on their part? it's a crazy phenomenon....The girls that i meet that are 7.0-8.5 are always very friendly and the easiest for me to click with and bust on a little bit...they kinda get my personality i think.9-10's take a little bit of cracking but warm up to me as long as i don't buy into their bullshit.

anyone else ever notice this?
im ugly bro
 
go in there and sit right next to her and keep glancing up at her and looking away without saying anything, then say hi and look away and pretend shes not there so she cant answer. make it so fucking awkward
 
SublimeZM said:
go in there and sit right next to her and keep glancing up at her and looking away without saying anything, then say hi and look away and pretend shes not there so she cant answer. make it so fucking awkward

that's creepy.........especially if you keep breaking eye contact like that.
i do shit like that minus the creepyness factor. it's fun to throw people out of their own little world.

you're also right scots, that makes a ton of sense.......whatever you feel internally always seems to come out in one way or another. even when i try to be nice just to have a good interaction and not in a sexual way, i'm sure it still resonates in my head
 
calveless wonder said:
that's creepy.........especially if you keep breaking eye contact like that.
i do shit like that minus the creepyness factor. it's fun to throw people out of their own little world.

you're also right scots, that makes a ton of sense.......whatever you feel internally always seems to come out in one way or another. even when i try to be nice just to have a good interaction and not in a sexual way, i'm sure it still resonates in my head
haha very creepy which is why its funny. or look past her or at her ear so shes not sure if ur talking to her or not and doesnt know whether to answer and feels super insecure and awkward like shes talking to someone with autism
 
My standards are so insanely high I feel bad for myself. I will only pursue a 7.5 MINIMUM, at which point I still need to factor in personality.
 
i have no idea what "number" i am... whatever average is.

i have no trouble talking to anyone. good looking or not. eventually, they all realize that I'm spectacular.
 
stilleto said:
i have no idea what "number" i am... whatever average is.

i have no trouble talking to anyone. good looking or not. eventually, they all realize that I'm spectacular.

every now and then i'll fall for some 6-7 chick because of her personality or some other feature that i can't get over (hair, eyes, vulnerability)

not saying you're a 6-7 sweets, just noting how attraction is not a choice and sometimes it has nothing to do with your general number rating
 
swole said:
every now and then i'll fall for some 6-7 chick because of her personality or some other feature that i can't get over (hair, eyes, vulnerability)

As you get older, the "scale" of a woman means nothing.
Eventually you will want personality more than hottness.

I mean I am not speaking from experience since I am both super hot and have a stellar personality ;-)
 
blueta2 said:
As you get older, the "scale" of a woman means nothing.
Eventually you will want personality more than hottness.

I mean I am not speaking from experience since I am both super hot and have a stellar personality ;-)

what is it with you older people? you always use your so-called words of wisdom to make up for the fact that all the hot older people are taken and you're stuck basing everything on personality

i DO want personality more than anything, even at my oh so young age of 25...i've broken up with 9's who didn't challenge me as a person

i bet you wouldn't challenge me either
 
swole said:
what is it with you older people? you always use your so-called words of wisdom to make up for the fact that all the hot older people are taken and you're stuck basing everything on personality

i DO want personality more than anything, even at my oh so young age of 25...i've broken up with 9's who didn't challenge me as a person

i bet you wouldn't challenge me either

It's pretty much the lowest form of generalization around. "I've been on earth more years than you so I'm automatically smarter/wiser". Fuck, then what happened to all the really dumb older people then?! lol. All being older means is that you have an even longer time to fall deeper into poor behavior patterns which means you have an even larger climb back to normalness.

EDIT: In many cases age does indeed lead to wisdom and increased awareness, but typically those select few are not the ones saying "I'm older so I'm smart". :)
 
KillahBee said:
EDIT: In many cases age does indeed lead to wisdom and increased awareness, but typically those select few are not the ones saying "I'm older so I'm smart". :)

that's the vibe i get from gonelifting. seems like a really wise, genuine dude.
 
KillahBee said:
It's pretty much the lowest form of generalization around. "I've been on earth more years than you so I'm automatically smarter/wiser". Fuck, then what happened to all the really dumb older people then?! lol. All being older means is that you have an even longer time to fall deeper into poor behavior patterns which means you have an even larger climb back to normalness.

EDIT: In many cases age does indeed lead to wisdom and increased awareness, but typically those select few are not the ones saying "I'm older so I'm smart". :)

you and swole seriously have some sort of complex

I never said "older meant smarter"

It's called evolution. As one gets older, their needs and preference change. That is what I was saying.
When you kids grow up, you'll have a "ah ha" moment and realize what us "older" ppl are saying was true.
 
blueta2 said:
As you get older, the "scale" of a woman means nothing.
Eventually you will want personality more than hottness.

I mean I am not speaking from experience since I am both super hot and have a stellar personality ;-)

just out of curiousity, do you have noticeable scars on your face from melanoma?
 
nimbus said:
just out of curiousity, do you have noticeable scars on your face from melanoma?

Yes, but only on the hairline. I have long bangs so you don't see it unless I wear my hair in a ponytail
 
blueta2 said:
you and swole seriously have some sort of complex

I never said "older meant smarter"

It's called evolution. As one gets older, their needs and preference change. That is what I was saying.
When you kids grow up, you'll have a "ah ha" moment and realize what us "older" ppl are saying was true.

Well said, you didn't just prove me right in the least bit.

I'm glad you realize what you're typing as you type it. You definitely are more educated, aware, socially integrated, and experienced than me.
 
KillahBee said:
Well said, you didn't just prove me right in the least bit.

I'm glad you realize what you're typing as you type it. You definitely are more educated, aware, socially integrated, and experienced than me.


I didn't prove anything....I was just being a wise guy!
 
blueta2 said:
you and swole seriously have some sort of complex

I never said "older meant smarter"

It's called evolution. As one gets older, their needs and preference change. That is what I was saying.
When you kids grow up, you'll have a "ah ha" moment and realize what us "older" ppl are saying was true.

do older people like rofls??? because that's what i'm doing right now
 
needtogetaas said:
lol I love the meh.I get the meh Idea completely

for the record last time i went into a blind date with meh she was totally into me
 
swole said:
for the record last time i went into a blind date with meh she was totally into me
was she really a meh though.or was that just your vibe even though she was not a meh.lmao you think you can understand that.
 
needtogetaas said:
was she really a meh though.or was that just your vibe even though she was not a meh.lmao you think you can understand that.

she was a meh

but one time a date wasn't a meh but i still gave her a meh, she was totally diggin it

lol

gotta play the meh right
 
needtogetaas said:
I just love the meh.

i love playing meh while on steroids

because all i give a shit about is myself and i could give two shits about anything lately
 
swole said:
what is it with you older people? you always use your so-called words of wisdom to make up for the fact that all the hot older people are taken and you're stuck basing everything on personality

i DO want personality more than anything, even at my oh so young age of 25...i've broken up with 9's who didn't challenge me as a person

i bet you wouldn't challenge me either

don't count me in on that "older" bs. I don't subscribe to that shit at all.... :)
I'm dating a guy who's 22... thats 15 years younger. lololololollo
and honestly, I'll say he's more intelligent than any man I have ever dated TWICE his age, without the hangups you get in older guys.. and he's fukkin hot. :chomp: I agree, if you can have personality AND hotness why would you settle for less?
 
caligirl said:
don't count me in on that "older" bs. I don't subscribe to that shit at all.... :)
I'm dating a guy who's 22... thats 15 years younger. lololololollo
and honestly, I'll say he's more intelligent than any man I have ever dated TWICE his age, without the hangups you get in older guys.. and he's fukkin hot. :chomp: I agree, if you can have personality AND hotness why would you settle for less?

It's not about settling for less, it's about finding more in a person that looks.

By the way, my last boyfriend of 2 1/2 yrs was 12 yrs my junior. He was 23 when I met him. Let's just say, as he got older, he wanted different things.
 
blueta2 said:
It's not about settling for less, it's about finding more in a person that looks.

By the way, my last boyfriend of 2 1/2 yrs was 12 yrs my junior. He was 23 when I met him. Let's just say, as he got older, he wanted different things.

like a woman who challenged him?
 
swole said:
like a woman who challenged him?

no, a woman who wanted kids. And trust me, it doesn't take much work to challenge a young guy. Show some tits and ass, and you're all set. Well you know
 
blueta2 said:
It's not about settling for less, it's about finding more in a person that looks.

By the way, my last boyfriend of 2 1/2 yrs was 12 yrs my junior. He was 23 when I met him. Let's just say, as he got older, he wanted different things.

overall, maybe. but I'm a WAYYYYYYYYYYYY visual person. I take damn good care of myself and expect anyone who I spend time with to do the same. I wont date a guy based on "personality" alone.
yeah, it may sound shallow but at least i'm honest.

it is what it is. if you are going to get involved with someone that much younger, you better go into it prepared to let them go if they so choose... But I'd say thats the same with anyone at any age.
 
caligirl said:
overall, maybe. but I'm a WAYYYYYYYYYYYY visual person. I take damn good care of myself and expect anyone who I spend time with to do the same. I wont date a guy based on "personality" alone.
yeah, it may sound shallow but at least i'm honest.

it is what it is. if you are going to get involved with someone that much younger, you better go into it prepared to let them go if they so choose... But I'd say thats the same with anyone at any age.

Your shallolololow.
 
blueta2 said:
no, a woman who wanted kids. And trust me, it doesn't take much work to challenge a young guy. Show some tits and ass, and you're all set. Well you know

OMG.. I'm VERY dissapointed in you Blue, bite your tongue! Sounds like you had a mindless experience with your dude.
 
caligirl said:
OMG.. I'm VERY dissapointed in you Blue, bite your tongue! Sounds like you had a mindless experience with your dude.

It wasn't mindless at all. The guy was highly intelligent. He had issues, but the experience I had was that of someone 12 yrs young who was no where near where I was in life. We both wanted different things.
No need to be disappointed. We all need to experience mistakes :-)
 
swole said:
every now and then i'll fall for some 6-7 chick because of her personality or some other feature that i can't get over (hair, eyes, vulnerability)

not saying you're a 6-7 sweets, just noting how attraction is not a choice and sometimes it has nothing to do with your general number rating

no, i understand what you mean.
maybe that's why i have no trouble with people- because my personality is a 12, so it evens out to "close to perfect".
:)
either way, i rely on my personality when i meet people, not my looks. Works out better that way and insecurity isn't usually an issue, because i know they'll enjoy my company.

they have to... its ME we're talking about.
 
blueta2 said:
no, a woman who wanted kids. And trust me, it doesn't take much work to challenge a young guy. Show some tits and ass, and you're all set. Well you know

This pretty much works for all guys :chomp:
 
lol...I like someone who has a decent personality. If a person says that they only date extremely good looking people, I can pretty much count on them being shallow, vacuous, uninteresting, and way more proud than they should be. Those people can't hold my interest.
 
stilleto said:
no, i understand what you mean.
maybe that's why i have no trouble with people- because my personality is a 12, so it evens out to "close to perfect".
:)
either way, i rely on my personality when i meet people, not my looks. Works out better that way and insecurity isn't usually an issue, because i know they'll enjoy my company.

they have to... its ME we're talking about.


It doesn't hurt that you're a pretty solid 9 in the looks dep. :qt:

Although I mainly like you because you're almost as twisted as I am. :evil:

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
swole said:
i love playing meh while on steroids

because all i give a shit about is myself and i could give two shits about anything lately
I know what you mean.I shoved some girl out of my way yesterday because she was standing in front of this mirror I wanted to use.the pore waitress was trying to do up her hair or some shit.should have seen the look on her face.like that who the fuck dos this guy think he is look,but I am her boss so she just put her head down and walked away.

I have noticed there are girls that are constantly putting there hair up.like 50 times a day I see them with there arms all up in the air sticking there ass out as far as it will go trying to show as much tits and navel as they can.that shit pisses me off.dont know why.
 
I tend to go for 1's. I do this solely for when I post here about it, hopefully people think it's a typo and think I'm going with 10's.

I'm so sneaky.
 
blueta2 said:
no, a woman who wanted kids. And trust me, it doesn't take much work to challenge a young guy. Show some tits and ass, and you're all set. Well you know
well I really dont know what to say.just showing some tits and ass would make my head tern but it wont stop me from terning my head to the next girl doing the same thing.its only going to keep me entrusted for a small moment but I am 27 so I dont know If I am old or young any more.lol my kids call me old.some of the girls at work make small jokes at me that I am old to,but I dont feel old and dont want to be old.yaaa wtf I'm I even saying here never mind

tits and ass are a dime a dozen
 
i'm 35 but i look 33. i'm fucking blessed. and i have the mentality of a 15 year old.
 
Blueta never ceases to amaze me.

Just when I think an adult couldn't possibly make any less valid points or stupid comments in an argument, she outdoes herself.
 
jnevin said:
Blueta never ceases to amaze me.

Just when I think an adult couldn't possibly make any less valid points or stupid comments in an argument, she outdoes herself.
she's got to be a wildcat in bed to keep a bro....
 
needtogetaas said:
well I really dont know what to say.just showing some tits and ass would make my head tern but it wont stop me from terning my head to the next girl doing the same thing.its only going to keep me entrusted for a small moment but I am 27 so I dont know If I am old or young any more.lol my kids call me old.some of the girls at work make small jokes at me that I am old to,but I dont feel old and dont want to be old.yaaa wtf I'm I even saying here never mind

tits and ass are a dime a dozen

I get what you're saying. Not all young dude think like you though.
You've been married a long time (same woman) and have kids. You have had to grown up in that respect
 
jnevin said:
Blueta never ceases to amaze me.

Just when I think an adult couldn't possibly make any less valid points or stupid comments in an argument, she outdoes herself.

Which points do you find stupid or not valid?!
 
i'm torn. do i be nice to blueta2 because we're now e-dating steadily, or do i maintain a strong Cnc hand and verbally slap the hoah around? FUCK.

cmarc, help a nougat out.
 
jackangel said:
i'm torn. do i be nice to blueta2 because we're now e-dating steadily, or do i maintain a strong Cnc hand and verbally slap the hoah around? FUCK.

cmarc, help a nougat out.


OH MAN...........HAHAHAH (he will kill me for saying this but I have to). My nick name for him is NOUGAT!

Oh and yes be nice to me, Don't play like the haters
 
jnevin said:
Blueta never ceases to amaze me.

Just when I think an adult couldn't possibly make any less valid points or stupid comments in an argument, she outdoes herself.

Valid points in this thread.
As you get older, looks do become less important than they were in your 20's and 30's.
 
swole said:
My standards are so insanely high I feel bad for myself. I will only pursue a 7.5 MINIMUM, at which point I still need to factor in personality.

i totally agree....this is how i am. it was just a social experiment and observation i've come to see. as i said, has nothing to do with me wanting to get with "average looking wimmins"..just couldn't figure out why they would react this way.

i think the "Meh" thing scotsman said is huge. even if somebody wants to nice or is, im sure you can project a certain energy inside your head thinking "i hope this girl doesn't think i'm trying to hit on her becuase she's definetely not my type" or "i'll try to be nice, but she's not very attractive or valuable to me"
 
CMarc said:
Valid points in this thread.
As you get older, looks do become less important than they were in your 20's and 30's.


oh fuck, you didn't just post that......... yikes
 
calveless wonder said:
you mean like every single one of your threads or posts, EVER?

actually, you're not confident enough to be conceited. you're just the purest form of attention whore ever
:rolleyes:

sure, little boy, sure.
 
to a man, it would be. :lmao:


and blueta is right, as people mature normally they have more important attributes than looks alone in finding a mate.
 
I'd imagine a man would shrug off a ding-dong comment like that and be able to move on.

And although the older you get, superficial things become less important, it doesn't mean you quit looking for what you like. You just learn to see more in people than you did when you were 21 and following your id. And wang.
 
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