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What hinders gains?

good question.if im taking adex ED. for my gyno how bad will it hurt me this close to my show.the gyno is almost gone.just some loose skin.should i go ahead and reduce it or just stop and take my chances.does adex hinder masteron and tren gains.i know it does test.
 
Theres several things that may hinder gains. Lack of sleep, not taking in enough water, ect. The same as when not on gear, but just to a lesser extent.
 
enacer420nj said:
percocet/vicodin?
lmfao...as i just cracked a perc and downed it
 
eddymerckx said:
wrong bro...goddamn for a moderator i got to correct you... shame shame.....lmfao....marriage is what makes me hit the weights harder,,,,to get as hard as possibel to fuck everyone except my wife,.......lmfao
 
HAYEZ said:
wrong bro...goddamn for a moderator i got to correct you... shame shame.....lmfao....marriage is what makes me hit the weights harder,,,,to get as hard as possibel to fuck everyone except my wife,.......lmfao

drug AND relationship problems? I see a correlation between it all haha.
 
ryno9000 said:
drug AND relationship problems? I see a correlation between it all haha.


LMAO....no dug problems here...just so happend my boy decided to give me a perc on his way to work...marriage yes thats a problem..dont do it...nobody ever do it....take my advice dont ever get married
 
airsmith2k said:
someone once told me that actually taking a painkiller before u workout does something with ur cortisol levels and makes u gain more


Did he take them? He may have said that just to justify himself taking them. I knew a few guys that said they took them because their shoulder was messed up and to work through the pain. Well a year later they were addictted to them. I've been there and never again!
 
Beachboy6294 said:
Did he take them? He may have said that just to justify himself taking them. I knew a few guys that said they took them because their shoulder was messed up and to work through the pain. Well a year later they were addictted to them. I've been there and never again!

no he hasnt but he has talkin to alot of bodybuilders and thats what he told me they do somethin with ur cortisol levels
 
airsmith2k said:
no he hasnt but he has talkin to alot of bodybuilders and thats what he told me they do somethin with ur cortisol levels


I've never heard that but we'll let some of the bro's that know alot more than me chime in.
 
years ago i sometimes would take vicodin on leg day to push thru the pain.Later on i became addicted to them and was taking up to 50 lortab 10mg a day.this is where my bodybuilding career ended.I didnt touch a weight for 6 years.well i got cleaned up shook the dirt off and getting back on stage in june.very deadly drug.heroin in a pill
 
Drugs
NSAIs
Mental Misfocus
Too many women
Too much food
Too Little food
Anger
Depression
Lack of Sleep
Lifting too Hard
Lifting too Little
 
bigpimpin25 said:
i have heard that ibuprofen does decrease protein synthesis......
Yes I would agree on that. I have been on 50mg Voltaren (NSAID) for a rotator tear for 3 months. During this time I dropped 6 kgs even though I was on gear & eating 4500-5000cal Ed. I stopped taking them 3 weeks ago & have put on 2.5kg . Definately steriodal drugs like prednisone are catabolic to muscle & there has been an article in MD lately to suggest that EFA's can decrease protein synthesis as well. I guess though, its a trade off esp for older lifters as to whether you lose a bit of growth to being able to train with all the wear & tear that the BBers body has been subjected to over the years.
 
theblondebomber said:
years ago i sometimes would take vicodin on leg day to push thru the pain.Later on i became addicted to them and was taking up to 50 lortab 10mg a day.this is where my bodybuilding career ended.I didnt touch a weight for 6 years.well i got cleaned up shook the dirt off and getting back on stage in june.very deadly drug.heroin in a pill[/QUOTE]


Thanks for sharing, bro. Some of these bros laugh it off like it could never happen to them. I've seen some tough ass guys go down the drain from booze, needles & pills. I mean - as in dead. Go ahead... pop away.
 
That thing about alcohol hindering gains is a load of crap. Me and my buddies drink every weekend and we continue to grow and look good. I can tell you that when I took x pills EVERY fri/sat nite and sometimes on tues nite wen we went out as well, they kept me cut like a mofo. Probably cause of the amphetamines in them. Cut me up more than tren ever did.
 
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Para_Shoot said:
That thing about alcohol hindering gains is a load of crap. Me and my buddies drink every weekend and we continue to grow and look good. I can tell you that when I took x pills EVERY fri/sat nite and sometimes on tues nite wen we went out as well, they kept me cut like a mofo. Probably cause of the amphetamines in them. Cut me up more than tren ever did.


bro imagine how big you would have been then without alcohol. There is no doubt that x will help you lose weight and be cut but to me it's not worth whatelse it does to you in the longrun. I know you'll probably say no but I know plenty of people that it messed with their serotonin and they had to get put on meds for it.
 
Para_Shoot said:
That thing about alcohol hindering gains is a load of crap. Me and my buddies drink every weekend and we continue to grow and look good. I can tell you that when I took x pills EVERY fri/sat nite and sometimes on tues nite wen we went out as well, they kept me cut like a mofo. Probably cause of the amphetamines in them. Cut me up more than tren ever did.

yeah i eat painkillers and xanax daily and i juice and it seems to keep me cut but i have a hard time putting actual size on
 
Beachboy6294 said:
bro imagine how big you would have been then without alcohol. There is no doubt that x will help you lose weight and be cut but to me it's not worth whatelse it does to you in the longrun. I know you'll probably say no but I know plenty of people that it messed with their serotonin and they had to get put on meds for it.

i think drinking is the worst possible thing you can do while training
 
number 1 to me stress!!.... i can actually see the muscle get smaller the day after a bad day of mental and physical stress..
 
spikemydog said:
number 1 to me stress!!.... i can actually see the muscle get smaller the day after a bad day of mental and physical stress..


+10--at least from mental stress + lack of sleep--not been to the gym in a month (b/c work) and i am certain i am small enough to slip through the grates in the sidewalk :worried:
 
enacer420nj said:
Besides alcohol and AI/SERMS, what hinders gains while on?
stress which leads to elevated cortisol levels will eat a physique like a fucking cancer......ie relationship/marital problems, financial instability...etc.
 
gautho said:
stress which leads to elevated cortisol levels will eat a physique like a fucking cancer......ie relationship/marital problems, financial instability...etc.
+1 Stress is one big factor in limiting gains. Question is, how to deal with it if you have huge workloads & the stress of running , in my case, your own business. Answer - sell up. Problem is I had two offers crash in the last 2 weeks, so I'm still stressed LOL. Lifes a Bitch, Then you marry one!
 
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