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What cycle gave you most trouble? Harsh sides.

winny... tren... I stay away from anything harsher then those 2 lol I'd rather feel good on cycle then deal with a slew of sides
 
Test E/Tren E, irritable all the time....smashed a chair over a table one day...

Tren ace doesn't give me that problem...

~EZ
 
im on my first cycle but i just switched to prop and i couldnt walk for 3 days after i did a quad shot with it. id say that is a side effect. i almost had to call off of work today.
 
babushka said:
Whats up with winny?
Which sides did you get?
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felt like utter crap the entire cycle no energy horrible mood joints would pop and creak I had micro tears in both my elbow tendons lol but I gained 20 lbs on it so I don't regret it just won't run it again
 
RADAR said:
Tren Ace , I loved it ,but it shut down my sex drive for over a year! so no the sides were not worth it!
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do you remember the PCT you ran?

also how long did u run this cycle and what did u run with it? were you shut down for a year or was your sex drive just gone for a year?

I am very curious as I am planning on POSSIBLY running tren for the first time this winter. I know you have mentioned you will never touch tren again but no one ever asked you for specifics about the cycle and PCT you ran.
 
stevesmi said:
do you remember the PCT you ran?

also how long did u run this cycle and what did u run with it? were you shut down for a year or was your sex drive just gone for a year?

I am very curious as I am planning on POSSIBLY running tren for the first time this winter. I know you have mentioned you will never touch tren again but no one ever asked you for specifics about the cycle and PCT you ran.
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Steve i ran several PCTS Everything from Clomid,Nova to tribulis,Unleashed,HCG you name it i did it. i will never touch it again.
 
snorkles said:
wow. does it make so much difference from Enathate to ace?!
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Well, I was also in between jobs @ the time and was being told I was overqualified, etc, etc...

~EZ
 
I've always made it a point never to do any vet gear, but once I got EQ being passed off as Primo. God, I felt like shit. Fucking horse medicine crap.
 
snorkles said:
So tren seems to be the problem here. at what dosage were u taking it guys?
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When I was smashing chairs I was taking a tren homebrew from a friend of a friend....1 cc tren/1 cc test every 3rd day.....don't know the mg's on the tren since it was homebrew....yes, very stupid move

~EZ
 
Jaxtwo1 said:
Of the dozen cycles I have done, I have never had any harsh sides, crashed, or used a PCT. .
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either a. You're cool or b. You're full of and shooting sh*t
 
The only real aggrevating side that ive encountered is literally not being able to walk after my first shot of prop!
This was my first cycle and did a quad shot! Next day i hobled my arse to gym just to train, couldnt train legs for weeks! i fukn love prop but the first 2 weeks were HELL

ive never had any other harsh sides cause i always dose conservatively, ive never used tren though lol
 
i never really had noticable sides, but i can tell you of two guys and their experiences with tren

1st one was my workout partner, we added tren the last 4 weeks of our cycle, about week 3, he gets a blood test, kidney values are through the roof, doc told him that unless he wants to be on dialysis, get off of whatever your on

2nd guy was a guy from my gym, smaller guy but bodybuilt, was doing trent o cut up, got his blood work done, good cholesterol was 0, bad cholesterol was double what it should have been, 1 yr later(last month) he had a heart attack
hes trying to get back on it

i will never do tren again, too many sides that you dont see
 
5x10 said:
i never really had noticable sides, but i can tell you of two guys and their experiences with tren

1st one was my workout partner, we added tren the last 4 weeks of our cycle, about week 3, he gets a blood test, kidney values are through the roof, doc told him that unless he wants to be on dialysis, get off of whatever your on

2nd guy was a guy from my gym, smaller guy but bodybuilt, was doing trent o cut up, got his blood work done, good cholesterol was 0, bad cholesterol was double what it should have been, 1 yr later(last month) he had a heart attack
hes trying to get back on it

i will never do tren again, too many sides that you dont see
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Shit man thanks for info.I run fake tren last cycle-and now I am glad that is was fake.
With those sides-Hell no.
Keto diet cut me pretty well))
I do prop/winny or prop/var next time.
 
5x10 said:
i never really had noticable sides, but i can tell you of two guys and their experiences with tren

1st one was my workout partner, we added tren the last 4 weeks of our cycle, about week 3, he gets a blood test, kidney values are through the roof, doc told him that unless he wants to be on dialysis, get off of whatever your on

2nd guy was a guy from my gym, smaller guy but bodybuilt, was doing trent o cut up, got his blood work done, good cholesterol was 0, bad cholesterol was double what it should have been, 1 yr later(last month) he had a heart attack
hes trying to get back on it

i will never do tren again, too many sides that you dont see
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and people wonder why I always advocate staying natty as long as possible and only doing AAS once you reach your genetic potential and are older.

i would bet that the first dude led a crappy lifestyle (drinking, poor sleep)
and the 2nd probably was obese and had crappy cholesteral to begin with.
 
thatbloke said:
lol man u do realise this is just one experience

also tren has been proven nto to effect the kidneys, so either the poster lied about the first guy or he was taking oral steroids and the poster was unaware of it

as for the second guy well i cant argue as it could be factual

but from my expereince, ive been on tren almost 5 months (doses have gone from low to high) and experienced insomnia and cholestrol is a little off but nothing to worry about

just saying
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you were in good shape before going on tren. i bet those guys already had issues before, but jumped on anyway, and the tren made their issues worse.

I'm gonna try tren later this year, and you better believe I will be in top shape before going on. I'm going natty until then and I will be conducting bloods prior and making sure everything is good to promote a smooth cycle. if my cholesterol (good or bad) is even a point off normal values I am not gonna touch it.
 
those guys porlly were on bad stuff..thats one story of a million,i am about to jump on a tren cycle(first tren time)
 
It is always comes to this phylosophical question
To tren.....or not to tren
Damn I am so tired from this fake gear floating around now thinking about homebrew .
 
thelocal said:
those guys porlly were on bad stuff..thats one story of a million,i am about to jump on a tren cycle(first tren time)
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well i ran a deca/sust cycle and my kidney values were off for a month after my cycle was over.

if you run a blood test during cycle you will see a lot of things that get thrown off, its a question of getting back to normal after cycling.
 
I will start tren (acetate) for the first time late April. I can't fukcing wait
week 1-8 test prop 525mg per week
week 1-8 tren ace 350mg per week

to answer the op's question, nothing has really given me bad sides. Then again, all I have used is test prop, npp, and dbol
 
babushka said:
It is always comes to this phylosophical question
To tren.....or not to tren
Damn I am so tired from this fake gear floating around now thinking about homebrew .
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I have ran over priced gear but never bunk gear stick with trusted sources...
 
stevesmi said:
well i ran a deca/sust cycle and my kidney values were off for a month after my cycle was over.

if you run a blood test during cycle you will see a lot of things that get thrown off, its a question of getting back to normal after cycling.
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i agree things get thrown off no dout,but if they started jucing because they got it form a friend,but they didnt eat clean,and they got drunk alot,that explains it..i am about to start blasting and crusing,lol trying to catch up to thatbloke
 
I can no longer do oral winny anymore (long story) and was thinking about doing tren (have never tried it) but after reading everyone of these posts Im not sure I want to.
 
Couter said:
I can no longer do oral winny anymore (long story) and was thinking about doing tren (have never tried it) but after reading everyone of these posts Im not sure I want to.
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Do injectable winny lol
Anyway I'll run prop/inj winny starting from may 1st and see how results will be.
I'll try prop/masteron prop/winny prop/var prop/tbol and if this is not enough I'll may throw tren in there as my last resort.:evil::evil::evil:
 
5x10 said:
i never really had noticable sides, but i can tell you of two guys and their experiences with tren

1st one was my workout partner, we added tren the last 4 weeks of our cycle, about week 3, he gets a blood test, kidney values are through the roof, doc told him that unless he wants to be on dialysis, get off of whatever your on

2nd guy was a guy from my gym, smaller guy but bodybuilt, was doing trent o cut up, got his blood work done, good cholesterol was 0, bad cholesterol was double what it should have been, 1 yr later(last month) he had a heart attack
hes trying to get back on it

i will never do tren again, too many sides that you dont see
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This ^^ Just finished a 12 weeker. 12 weeks Test E, 500mg/week, Tren E, 300mg/week. Had blood work done last week as part of my regular annual physical. My lipid profile was fucked up, and my liver enzymes were elevated. LDL- 170, HDL- 17, ALT- 78. And of course, all the standard side effects were there...insomnia, insane night sweats, increased aggression. I love the results of Tren, but the sides are definitely no joke.
 
thelocal said:
most dont run tren at 12 weeks but no dout its a hardcore drug,did u tak any support supps?
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I'm assume you were asking me. I didn't run the Tren for 12 weeks, sorry for the confusion. Tren E for 10, ran the Test E 12. I usually only run Tren for 8 weeks, but I wanted to stretch it out a little. Yes, I ran all the supporting ancillaries. I wouldn't think of touching Tren without Caber and Aromasin. And I always keep Letro on hand if my nips start to get sensitive or puffy. Regardless, 10 weeks or 8 weeks my HDL levels are horrible. I don't think the extra 2 weeks is what did the damage, lol. My HDL pre-cycle was 56, and besides the ancillaries, I wasn't taking any orals.
 
I HAD THE SAME EXACT ISSUE AS RADAR.

TRENNN.

only thing is, he said his sex drive/libido was lost for a yr. try almost 3 yrs. and no i am not lying. did a number of pct's. saw radiologists, endocrinologist's, etc...could not get the libido back. somehow, my libido all of a sudden came back, (am on 1250mg/wk test) lol but its back, and my god is it back. im 34 now and it is like im 18 again, obviously the test has a lot to do with it, dosage, etc... but yeah tren, although amazing results, that dieting down can get you in peak contest shape, can wreck your life. i almost went thru a divorce because of it. luckily my wife stuck around thru it all. now shes getting fucked inside out daily. hah!

other than that, have never had any other sides from anything else. although i have not tried deca.
 
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