What causes people to be Gay?

[musclebrains]

No, the fact that it is deviant and a minority behavior certainly explains curiosity about it. It does not explain why anyone should have to "explain" it, which is what I took you to mean when you said you can't "figure it."

I can't "figure" women out, but I don't think they have to make an explanation of why they aren't male. I can't "figure" transsexuals, and I don't ask dball or any of his friends why they are the way they are.

Why is it not adequate just to say that somethings are given -- and if that's not adequate, then why not look a the total question of sexual orientation? I presume you know that heterosexuality was literally not identified, labeled, until homosexuality was.

 

[OMEGA]

kibbles and bits and bits and bits.



kibbles and bits and bits and bits.........


sorry just felt like singing that tune


any way we are all people. I don't ask, you do'nt tell and vice versa.


I only get involved in the questioning department, when adoption comes in to play.....and thats all i am saying for now

 

[Wombat]

Well, gee, thanks. But my question would remain the same. Why do so many threads about stinky manhole sex get posted by "straight guys" when those of us who are gay rarely post about the subject and certainly don't keep six threads going about stinky pussy hole?

In short, if you don't want the details, why keep bringing up the subject?

I think the subject of ones sexual preference is a lot deeper then stinky manhole sex etc. A lot of people that are straight do not in there every day lives have opportunities to disguss such things with gay men. When gay men or women have a chance to express themselves or feelings then that can only be healthy to all. I don't know how many times I have heard gay bashers say to MAY that they hated him etc. and these same people less then a month later were sticking up for him and have totally changed there view on gays. Is that a good thing? I think so.. Its not just good for you gays but to all and if you believe it not to be good for you then you should be the one not replying to these threads. Maybe someone starts the thread because they are doing a paper on the topic. Maybe they just found out there sister came out of the closet and what to understand more about the topic. There are so many diff-reasons for someone to want to talk about something. I don't see it being so black and white. The way I see you viewing it is that only gays should talk about being gay. If there is a scientist doing tests on it, then they should also be gay right? Any laws or or bills about gays wanting to go through congress should only be written by gays and passed by gays. Why gay pride parades? Why gay bars etc? You sound like these people should be back in the closet. If there is a gay thread that starts and 101 people reply to it and 100 of them are bashing gays and only 1 is sticking up for all gays then isn't that a good thing. These 100 people were going to think that anyway whether or not the thread started. So if one person can get there voice heard in a positive way on the subject, how can that be a bad thing? peace

 

[musclebrains]

Good points, Wombat. I know fully well that most people are not as hostile in real-life situations as they can be on the internet, sure.

I think I was pretty clear from the outset that my fascination is not why there is interest in homosexuality but why the interest occurs among people who claim to find it so disgusting and condemn it quite prior to investigation.

That question stands quite apart from whether I think discourse, angy or otherwise, is valuable. I said in my last post that I thought the subject of sexual orientation is of general interest.

 

[dballer]

what causes them to be gay is the attraction for those bouncy jello titties they try to get from scarfing Anadrol.

They see those big ol gyno slappers and just can't wait to sprout some up themselves.

 

[The_Mexican]

If a gay guy ate some hot pussy, he would be straight again!

 

[rmurf62]

I have 2 nephews ---one of them is 12 and plays football and all other types of sports and the other is 10 and plays with his sister whose 9 and all the little girlie games she plays with her friends. We all think this kid is going to be gay as hell. Why is this? His mother said at about the age 5 he started really getting really interested in his younger sister. At that time his brother who was 7 was in school and meeting diff-types of friends and would come home and tease his little brother about playing will dolls and other shit. She thinks it had a major effect on him. And he adapted the things that made him safe. And today he tries to do other things and he does. Bikes, football, things like that but he is very insecure and fem like. Was he born like this? I don't think so but at the time when he was very vunerable, he got let down and went to the safe zone. And one can tell he is stuck between both. These are brothers step-kids whos father left them around the age of 5. Although today we don't know if he is gay but if I had to bet the house on it that he will be!

Sad but true. Ask any gay guy, and 8 out of 10 will have some experience playing dolls, doing "girly" stuff at ages 5-6, etc. (I know I did.) I just hope that this kids parents don't try to fuck him up in order to make him "straight". Ain't NEVER gonna work, and just requires therapy down the road.

Interesting thread. Of course you make a conscious decision to go mack with a guy. Or with a girl, when you're fantasizing about guys. But the instinct is in the brain. Believe me, @ age 12 when the hormones started kicking in, I was all about guys. Couldn't acknowledge it until I was 23, though. You meet the right guy and suddenly, kaboom.

I've also known straight guys who have lots & lots of problems with women, and come to this idiotic conclusion that they must be gay. (An old roommate of mine - I asked him if he was attracted to guys, he said no, but he really couldn't talk to girls, and that means he must be gay.) Believe me, frustration with women is a DEAD-SURE sign of heterosexuality.

Is it possible for straight men to be curious without being "curious?" I mean, it is kind of an interesting subject.

Of course it is. I have lots of straight male friends, and lots them are curious, and definitely not "curious". They ask me about what sex w/a guy is like, I ask what sex with a girl is like. In this time of war, it is our patriotic duty as deviant americans to instruct and inform.

If a gay guy ate some hot pussy, he would be straight again!

Um, no. Trust me on that one.

 

[The_Mexican]

Um, no. Trust me on that one.

LOL.

did you eat a fish smelling one too?

 

[rippedboy]

Boneheads

People with even a low level of education know that you are born gay. Study after study after study has shown that it's genetic. That's why psychologists and psychiatrists REMOVED it from the list of "illnesses" almost 30 years ago. Men who are uptight about gays secretly have some unresolved issues about it. If you are truly straight, you could care less what other guys do in the privacy of their bedrooms! Jesus fucking christ, its 2001, wake up!

 

[buddy28]

I think people are naturally curious about deviant behavour.

Turn on A&E and its non-stop serial-killer biography week. Our culture stresses individualism, and nonconformity. Deviant sexual behavour and criminal behavour represent the ultimate form of nonconformity. Not that serial killers and gays are innately similar, but for the purposes of this discussion, they are inherently *unique*.

Secondly, science hasnt been able to tease apart how and why homosexual inclinations develop. Especially in todays society where gay rights are being hotly debated, citizens who wish to make an informed decision are more attuned to understanding what motivates homosexual behavour. This desire for understanding homosexuality is only exacerbated by America's promient Judeo-Christian culture that must reconcile Biblical interpratations of homosexuality, and "modern" views.

The *causes* of homosexuality can only come from 3 places:

1) genetics
2) enviroment
3) personal choice


Alot of you have already alluded reduced testosterone exposure in neo-natal fetus's causing homosexuality behavour in rats. Monozygotic twin adoption studies reveal a 30-40% concordence rate of homosexual lifestyles in identical twins reared apart. But what about the other 60%? Probably a combination of enviroment (upbringing and culture), and last but not least, personally choice.

I may get shot down for saying personal choice, but I know from experience, 2-3 hours of internet-porn a day can develop some pretty wacky fetishes. Im not joking either. "Plushies" and "Schezeraige" is just the tip of the ice burg.

Oh yea, and some of the guys here probably are closet homos. Trannies can be fun cause they are soo overtly feminine, but then u gotta deal with that shit in the morning. Nope.