What causes people to be Gay?

[Wombat]

It is genetic. Few people would make a choice to make their life significantly more difficult.

If that were true then everyone in high school would be playing football or cheerleading.

People that dress goth would not exist---People that think they are born with it can not see what happend to them when they were very young. Ages 1-4 nobody can remember and those ages where your mind is really at work. Of course we are born with instint but it is what we learn outside of the womb that builds who you are today. All parents think they bring there kids up equally. The truth is they don't and can't. Its impossible not to be drawn to one kid or the other. And the kid to be drawn to one parent or the other. Even if its just slightly. The mind picks it up and it has its effect even if you know it or not. Whats interesting is that lets say a man that his whole life was taught that he should be with woman. And everytime he is with one, it just doesn't seem right. He will feel like a failure and his mind will trick him into thinking that he must be with a man. This is not true but are his only options. If he doesn't like woman then he must like men. Fact is, he may not be attracked to either but is whole life a woman just didn't do it for him but he tells himself that the man is the only other choice. So hes always thinking about men after that. And has basically made himself gay He has basically brainwashed himself. With the help of society. The only support he would get would be from the men, who would tell him hes gay. A woman would tell him if he doesn't like woman then he has to like men. He is forced into being gay and could easily trick his mind into thinking that this is who he should be with. That it just feels right. When the fact is, its your only other choice or you would be a very lonely person if you didn't. So instead of being alone your whole life you let all your guards down and believe that a man is your answer. Nobody wants to go around in the world and be confused. When your mind thinks that you have found your answer to your questions, it will take it in and except it. But the truth is you are only settling for fear of being confused. Its just easier on your body and stress levels. But by choosing this, you open up a whole new level of stress levels but the diff--is you now have massive support in society today. And if you believe that, tug on my left nut it plays jingle bells

 

[Honeynut]

I think homosexuality is instinct - like I've said in other threads, I don't choose to feel the way I do about men - (on the contrary, I've even tried to talk myself out of it, for the sake of my sanity! lol) if I had a man's body, I'd be gay.

Whether I chose to admit it to myself, or to others, to "come out" - now yes, that is a choice - but its certainly not the high road. Anyone who "chooses" to be gay knows they're going to have a bitch of a time with it, they're going to be insulted, ostracized, denied - they're going to "dissapoint" people, and they're going to have some very lonely times.

But, that's nothing compared to the misery of living a lie.

I really admire gay people for their courage. Personally, I'm dissapointed at the people (gay and straight) that make homosexuality the defining charecteristic of a gay person - I mean, how much of your life do you actually spend having sex? Is it really anyone else's business how you get off? Out of bed, they're just like everyone else.

 

[JohnnyO]

<sigh> I post research with refereces of how to masculine-ize and feminze a pre-natal brain in rats and monkeys, in turn causing homosexuality in these animals, and STILL people have their own opinions on how it's caused.

I challenge anyone to go shoot up a pregnant rat with Sust 250 and see what happens.

 

[Wombat]

I think homosexuality is instinct - like I've said in other threads, I don't choose to feel the way I do about men - (on the contrary, I've even tried to talk myself out of it, for the sake of my sanity! lol) if I had a man's body, I'd be gay.

Whether I chose to admit it to myself, or to others, to "come out" - now yes, that is a choice - but its certainly not the high road. Anyone who "chooses" to be gay knows they're going to have a bitch of a time with it, they're going to be insulted, ostracized, denied - they're going to "dissapoint" people, and they're going to have some very lonely times.

But, that's nothing compared to the misery of living a lie.

I really admire gay people for their courage. Personally, I'm dissapointed at the people (gay and straight) that make homosexuality the defining charecteristic of a gay person - I mean, how much of your life do you actually spend having sex? Is it really anyone else's business how you get off? Out of bed, they're just like everyone else.

I just don't buy the argument that who would want to pick this and go through this. Who in the world would want to pick being fat and ugly. But there are millions if not billions that do. Certainly in most cases being fat is a choice. There is an argument about being ugly but there are certainly things people that are not the best looking people in the world can do to make themselves better looking. Why should being gay be any diff.----A person is choosing --either be with a man or a woman. Because if one doesn't feel right then it must be the other. And instead of being confused in ones whole life. You trick your mind into believing the 2nd choice is the right one. And one will find many other people that went through the same thing. And there is your connection and/or support group. You are now not confused or alone.

 

[spentagn]

<sigh> I post research with refereces of how to masculine-ize and feminze a pre-natal brain in rats and monkeys, in turn causing homosexuality in these animals, and STILL people have their own opinions on how it's caused.

I challenge anyone to go shoot up a pregnant rat with Sust 250 and see what happens.

They probably just have you on ignore Actually, I remember one of my former roomates, who is gay, saying something about decreased size of pituitary gland, or something to that effect. Does that sound right? I guess I should read that link of yours.

 

[Wombat]

Well, how many of us chose to be attracted to women? Probably not many. I think most gays have about as much choice in the matter as we do.

Actually not true--Society plays a major role in what types of women men should be looking at. Of course people have there own tastes but what is on t.v. is going to affect the young boys and girls of whats a turn on and whats not. Peer presure plays a major role in who men and women choose to be partners with.

 

[danielson]

a rat has a very small higher brain in comparisons to humans.

so maybe its partly what johhnyO's chattin' about.....but i think environment has alot to do with it for humans at least as they have such a big higher brain.....but homosexuality is seen sometimes in nature aparently (never seen it myself )

 

[Honeynut]

hi Wombat

I was writing my post as you wre writing yours. I admit you have a very interesting point, I've never thought of the possibility you suggested.

I do maintain my current convictions, based only on the gays and lesbians I know personally. I am in no position to generalize, everyone has different motivating factors. Thanks though, for bringing to light a point of view I hadn't considered before.

And Johnny O... You, as well, have hilighted a perspective that I'd never even heard of before. It's fascinating, it suggests why we are drawn to one sex or the other in a scientific way, which will hopefully lead more people to feel that it really is not a choice, and foster acceptance as a result.

 

[spentagn]

(never seen it myself )

ask corn, he's got pictures of himself and wodin.

 

[Citruscide]

Women and their entire ball of bullshit that is involved with them.

C