What ancilliaries should I buy?

[Beachbum1546]

Here's my cycle I'm beginning as soon as I order from AG-guys.

1-15 test prop 500mg/wk
1-15 npp 200mg/wk
3-11 tren ace 525mg/wk
9-15 winny 700mg/wk

What I'm worried about is progesterone gyno and regular estrogen related gyno. I was under the asumption that both can be taken care of as long as my estrogen levels are low. So, should I buy some liquidex? How about Nolva? Anything else?

I want to keep the products I need to minimum because I'm already poor enough buying the cycle, all my protective supplements, and food.

K for any help.

 

[JuicedAthletics]

I would buy Liquidex and Novaldex... Run those correctly and if you need Dostinex, buy it later. AG guys is very quick to ship so its not like you'll be waiting for a month to get your stuff.
I usually say buy it all and be safe, but with Dostinex, some people need it some people dont.. I would tackle the estrogen related sides first and then see if your progesterone sides hit you.. The Winstrol might be enough, but if not the Dostinex is there at your disposal...

 

[Beachbum1546]

I would buy Liquidex and Novaldex... Run those correctly and if you need Dostinex, buy it later. AG guys is very quick to ship so its not like you'll be waiting for a month to get your stuff.
I usually say buy it all and be safe, but with Dostinex, some people need it some people dont.. I would tackle the estrogen related sides first and then see if your progesterone sides hit you.. The Winstrol might be enough, but if not the Dostinex is there at your disposal...

Okay, cool. I just want to be clear as to what does what. Liquidex reduces estrogen in the body and Nolvadex stops estrogen from binding to receptors in the breasts. Correct?

Now, if I was running Liquidex and my estrogen was very low how would running Nolva be beneficial seeing that there is no estrogen in my body to block?
What I'm getting at is liquidex alone enough?

What about running Nolva alone? (I can already see holes in the argument)

 

[big_boy_1]

Here's my cycle I'm beginning as soon as I order from AG-guys.

1-15 test prop 500mg/wk
1-15 npp 200mg/wk
3-11 tren ace 525mg/wk
9-15 winny 700mg/wk

What I'm worried about is progesterone gyno and regular estrogen related gyno. I was under the asumption that both can be taken care of as long as my estrogen levels are low. So, should I buy some liquidex? How about Nolva? Anything else?

I want to keep the products I need to minimum because I'm already poor enough buying the cycle, all my protective supplements, and food.

K for any help.

You should only worry about npp and test, and this arent high doses, youll likely be fine with 20 mg nolva, unless you are very prone to gyno.

 

[swordfish151]

Okay, cool. I just want to be clear as to what does what. Liquidex reduces estrogen in the body and Nolvadex stops estrogen from binding to receptors in the breasts. Correct?

Now, if I was running Liquidex and my estrogen was very low how would running Nolva be beneficial seeing that there is no estrogen in my body to block?
What I'm getting at is liquidex alone enough?

What about running Nolva alone? (I can already see holes in the argument)

a-dex and nolva do seperate things in your system..a-dex mainly used for bloating (water retention) and arimidex's mechanism of action -- blocking conversion of aromatizable steroids to estrogen, while nolva blocks estrogen from estrogen receptors and, in those tissues where it is an antagonist, causes the receptor to do nothing....basically nolva for gyno and a-dex for water retention....both in conjunction work great..

 

[JuicedAthletics]

You are correct about the uses of liquidex and novaldex.. Liquidex alone should be enough...

Run 1mg Liquidex ED.. That should eliminate all estrogen related sides... The novaldex is used to keep lipid profiles in check, alleviates gyno and is used for PCT.. Its always good to have on hand...

So just start with 1mg Liquidex ED and if you still get gyno symptons run Novaldex for a few days at 40mg. If the gyno doesnt clear up, then I would drop the npp and tren and or buy some dostinex.. But I would think it would be easier to combat the estrogen sides first, before dealing with the NPP tren gyno..

 

[bilter]

have you experienced progesteron induced gyno in the past from tren or NPP? The chances that you will are less than 1%. I always include 20mg nolva per day with any cycle as it does provide some other benefits beyond prevention of gyno.

 

[Beachbum1546]

have you experienced progesteron induced gyno in the past from tren or NPP? The chances that you will are less than 1%. I always include 20mg nolva per day with any cycle as it does provide some other benefits beyond prevention of gyno.

I've never run tren or npp before.

Here's an interesting article I found about aromasin and using it in conjunction with nolva for PCT. It's definatly something I'm going to looking into.
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/aromasin-exemestane.htm

I think I'm going to buy some liquidex and nolva. I'll use the liquidex during the cycle and if gyno symptoms appear I'll run nolva but I will also use nolva for PCT.