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What A Bunch Of CRAP!

gjohnson5 said:
If you said that on bb.com you would get redded to death...

Yeah, they talk about zma and 6 oxo like they're planning their next cycle of tren and dball.

Ya know, all someone has to say is "What about the Roid Store?" But they jump to conclusions because they're so eager to make a contrary point, even if it's wrong.

Of course, business is business but it really bothers me when people decieve. I don't even mind hype, exageration or being told Jay Cutler uses Nitro Tech, but for Crissakes, at least let the product have some merit and don't charge 80 bucks for some baking soda and vitamin E.

As mentioned, I wrote about what I found to be helpful long before I desined my supps. When asked to do so, those were the ingredients I used. I never altered that stance. Good supps can add an extra 5% to gains and give some insurence in regard to health -- if they're good. It's dispicable if someone is expected that little advantage and they get ripped off. And even worse, is when some garbage chemical being passed off as a supplement can actually be health damaging. That pisses me off.

Okay, second rant over.
 
I can understand posting about supplements in relation to cycles etc on the AAS forum, but why the hell does a thread that does nothing but bitch about supplements belong here? Because they are labeled to make one think they are AAS?

Lets face, there is no truth in advertising, never has been, never will be.
 
Zyglamail said:
I can understand posting about supplements in relation to cycles etc on the anabolic androgenic steroids forum, but why the hell does a thread that does nothing but bitch about supplements belong here? Because they are labeled to make one think they are AAS?

Lets face, there is no truth in advertising, never has been, never will be.

Zyg -- where the hell have YOU been?

Well, there are a lot of guys here who use supps for various reasons and a lot of noobs who are making the transition over to real gear. It's just information. There are far more unrelated and insignificant topics being discussed.

And yes, all advertising -- and that includes promoting any typre of business you may be involved in -- requires making the product as attractive as possible. But don't sell a BMW and deliver a Hydai. That's wrong. And it's fair to be called on it.
 
Zyglamail said:
I can understand posting about supplements in relation to cycles etc on the anabolic androgenic steroids forum, but why the hell does a thread that does nothing but bitch about supplements belong here? Because they are labeled to make one think they are AAS?

Lets face, there is no truth in advertising, never has been, never will be.

Until the general public realizes the truth, There is no limit as to how much we should bitch about supplements. I think we should have a sticky saying "warning, Muscletech products are not what they appear"
 
nelson- once again I think you are all over it. I have made much better gains using supps from you legit bros(protein factory, agxsports) then I did when I was an eas baby. and I know there is other good supp. bros out there,other then the ones I listed.I am in the process of trying them out as well. this is why I think this site is by far the best on the web. we have very smart and knowledgeable bros that want to help us be the best we can. And at the same time if they make a product that really works, then they should be pushing it. I also think the guys that are making the better supps. should be bitching about the ones that don't(as long as you can prove what you are saying) because it gives supplement companys all over a bad name when a few put out bad products.


just my .02
 
mickeyb69 said:
Until the general public realizes the truth, There is no limit as to how much we should bitch about supplements. I think we should have a sticky saying "warning, Muscletech products are not what they appear"

Thats all fine and dandy, but this is the EF anabolic androgenic steroids forum, this is not the "supplement police forum". I hate the way companies try and push off their crap as legit stuff as much as the next guy, but simply put, one of the reasons I, and I am sure many others, are so scarce around here is because you have to wade through so much bullshit to get to what the forum is supposed to be about.

For the most part, your preaching to the choir here and if this is such a personal war for you then your time educating the masses would be much better spent elsewhere.
 
Point well taken. I just get impulsive sometimes when I want to speak my mind. Theres a kid at my gym who spent about $150 on pills (Creakic, Leukic and some other Muscletech garbage) It just pisses me off to know he got his info. from some bullshit magazine. Oh well, you live and you learn.
 
buddha7974 said:
nelson- once again I think you are all over it. I have made much better gains using supps from you legit bros(protein factory, agxsports) then I did when I was an eas baby. and I know there is other good supp. bros out there,other then the ones I listed.I am in the process of trying them out as well. this is why I think this site is by far the best on the web. we have very smart and knowledgeable bros that want to help us be the best we can. And at the same time if they make a product that really works, then they should be pushing it. I also think the guys that are making the better supps. should be bitching about the ones that don't(as long as you can prove what you are saying) because it gives supplement companys all over a bad name when a few put out bad products.


just my .02

Thanks for saying so bro. That's exactly the point. It's all about information and this is a great place to get it.

Zyg -- lighten up bro. There's plenty of space for everything.
 
buddha7974 said:
I also think the guys that are making the better supps. should be bitching about the ones that don't(as long as you can prove what you are saying) because it gives supplement companys all over a bad name when a few put out bad products.


just my .02


Bitching won't level the playing field because the shady companies make more $$$ because they sell you a turd. There's a reason Cell Tech has the advertising budget it has. Their product quality is low, so they can put more $$$ into advertising and packaging. The more they advertise, the more turds they sell, the more $$$ they make and so on...etc.

I love how the trend is for supplement companies to go with a Rx look now-even with creatine, etc. The theory must be that the more it looks like a drug, the stronger it must be, the better it's gonna work. LMAO. Some peeple ar too stoopid to no iny bedder.
 
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