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Well I think I know whats wrong with my car

SoKlueles

I love Mava
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My dad drove it and he said it misses when its down shifting the gear. He told me when it starts jerking, put it in drive instead of overdrive and see if it stops......if its the overdrive, it will stop. Well, it stopped......
So, if its my overdrive, what will they have to do? Pull my motor or what? and how much will it cost?
i reallllllllllly dont need this crap right now
 
JustJacked said:
sounds like your dad messed it up. make him pay. j/k
no actually, my dad took excellent care of it....it sickens me that he can afford to do that lol
but anyhoo......do u know how much it will cost? Will i have to have the transmission pulled or the motor?
 
Beachbum1546 said:
just for overdrive?!! snap!


yea, my buddy owns a garage and I just ask him with the info soklu gave and he said they would probably have to rebuild the transmission.
 
sounds like a tranny. The engine has a very stupid job. Just go and up and down. It's the tranny that swaps gears and runs the engine faster or slower.

I'd have it looked at by a tranny shop. Hope it's something simple like fluids, or pressure or something.

Oh and take it to TWO tranny places for inspection. To be sure u don't get ripped off. :)
 
Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."

Doctor: "Well, then don't do that."

Just don't use the overdrive. You'll be fine. The only difference will be that your gas mileage will suffer a little. How often do you go on long-distance trips, anyway?
 
Mr. dB said:
Patient: "Doctor, it hurts when I do this."

Doctor: "Well, then don't do that."

Just don't use the overdrive. You'll be fine. The only difference will be that your gas mileage will suffer a little. How often do you go on long-distance trips, anyway?
Well I drive on the Interstate every day......wll it be ok to drive on the IS in drive instead of OD?
its weird, it dont sputter when im going 75-80 just like when i come off the IS and it gears down or something......
coudl it just be possible its a spark plug or wire?
and soon(i hope) im making a 9 hr drive
 
JustJacked said:
yea, my buddy owns a garage and I just ask him with the info soklu gave and he said they would probably have to rebuild the transmission.
ask him if its ok if i just use the drive instead of OD and thanks for takign the time to ask someone for me:)
 
SoKlueles said:
Well I drive on the Interstate every day......wll it be ok to drive on the IS in drive instead of OD?
its weird, it dont sputter when im going 75-80 just like when i come off the IS and it gears down or something......
coudl it just be possible its a spark plug or wire?
and soon(i hope) im making a 9 hr drive


If it behaves normally when you have it in Drive, you're probably okay. I'd still get an opinion from a couple of transmission shops.
 
Mr. dB said:
If it behaves normally when you have it in Drive, you're probably okay. I'd still get an opinion from a couple of transmission shops.
yeah, i dont know what to do, i dont want nor can i really afford a car payment..and ive had this thing for less than a year...well its a 91 astrovan and my mom and dad have owned it since 90. so basically its a one owner vehicle and its just got 140000 miles on it
 
SoKlueles said:
ask him if its ok if i just use the drive instead of OD and thanks for takign the time to ask someone for me:)


he says its ok. but take it to a specialist. take it to a few cause they will try and fuck you over. you dont want to be driving it down the street have have it break down on ya.
 
JustJacked said:
he says its ok. but take it to a specialist. take it to a few cause they will try and fuck you over. you dont want to be driving it down the street have have it break down on ya.
so i should take someone with me? i hate when they try to screw over a female
 
OD is just another gear speed to help fuel milage, you can drive it all day with no problems with OD off, My Nissan had the exact same problem.
When you get ready to have it fixed a good trans shop will rebuild & give you a lifetime warrenty-the downside is it will cost around 1200.00
Do not opt for the partial rebuild about 1/2 the price it will not last.


Been there done that!

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
OD is just another gear speed to help fuel milage, you can drive it all day with no problems with OD off, My Nissan had the exact same problem.
When you get ready to have it fixed a good trans shop will rebuild & give you a lifetime warrenty-the downside is it will cost around 1200.00
Do not opt for the partial rebuild about 1/2 the price it will not last.


Been there done that!

RADAR
oh shit 1200????
 
You can drive it in drive and not OD, but it is only a 3 speed with OD in that vehicle, so I would try to keep it under 60 MPG. You can get a used trans from a junk yard for a lot cheaper than rebuilding that one. Rebuilding would not be worth it for a vehilce that old with that many miles on the rest of the drive train.

Checkl out www.car-part.com for a good auto recycler in your area. Then just find someone to swap the trans for you and your set. I would imagine you can find that transmission for under $400, and get someone to install it for a few hundred more. That is about half what a rebuild will cost you.

If you cannot afford to fix it now, just frive it in drive until the whole thing goes, but I would start saving money now.
 
Here's a thought....I had a car that was doing basically the same thing as you are describing. Once it got into overdrive it would constantly shift from OD to D and never seemed to find the right geat at cruising speed(usually around 55-60)

I took it in and they found out the spark plug wires were cracked(they were graphite and had cracks in the graphite) causing the transmission to constantly shift back and forth. It didn't have any problems around town with it shifting back and forth. Something about the computer was sending false signals to the transmssion to shift.

Don't know if this has anything to do with your situation but I would let a good mechanic have a look instead of someone you don't know. Good luck with it.
 
HumorMe said:
Here's a thought....I had a car that was doing basically the same thing as you are describing. Once it got into overdrive it would constantly shift from OD to D and never seemed to find the right geat at cruising speed(usually around 55-60)

I took it in and they found out the spark plug wires were cracked(they were graphite and had cracks in the graphite) causing the transmission to constantly shift back and forth. It didn't have any problems around town with it shifting back and forth. Something about the computer was sending false signals to the transmssion to shift.

Don't know if this has anything to do with your situation but I would let a good mechanic have a look instead of someone you don't know. Good luck with it.
ok let me explain what exaclty it does
When im driving on the interstate goign 75 its fine, but when i get off the exit and then get on the highway, going slow it sputters. did urs do this??
 
HumorMe said:
Here's a thought....I had a car that was doing basically the same thing as you are describing. Once it got into overdrive it would constantly shift from OD to D and never seemed to find the right geat at cruising speed(usually around 55-60)

I took it in and they found out the spark plug wires were cracked(they were graphite and had cracks in the graphite) causing the transmission to constantly shift back and forth. It didn't have any problems around town with it shifting back and forth. Something about the computer was sending false signals to the transmssion to shift.

Don't know if this has anything to do with your situation but I would let a good mechanic have a look instead of someone you don't know. Good luck with it.
hers has the exact opposite problem, its good at higher speeds (over 55) then acts like crap at lower speeds
 
SoKlueles said:
ok let me explain what exaclty it does
When im driving on the interstate goign 75 its fine, but when i get off the exit and then get on the highway, going slow it sputters. did urs do this??


Mine did fine at higher speeds but around 55-60 it seemed to want to constantly shift back and forth. Lower than the 55-60, it didn't really have a problem. It was just the 55-60 range.
 
HumorMe said:
Mine did fine at higher speeds but around 55-60 it seemed to want to constantly shift back and forth. Lower than the 55-60, it didn't really have a problem. It was just the 55-60 range.
well if it did that much to ur car and it was just spark plugs it still coudl be a broke one right? or a cable
my dad said he remembers having the plugs changed one time.....maybe thats all it is....i pray it is
 
Here's the real problem. it's an american car. They're designed to blow up by 160k.

save up some money, so when it does blow up (engine, tranny, cigarette lighter) -- you got enough cash to throw on a older used honda or toyota with like 70k.

unless you wnat to start getting into a viscous cycle putting money into some old american car.

ie: my 91 honda accord cost $3200 2 years ago. still pluggin' away happily today. :)
 
RADAR said:
Does it sputter with the OD turned off?

RADAR
it dont have a OD button, its in the steering column......its a D with a circle around it, then theres the regular D.....hammy asked me why i used it...but i guess i used it cuz its cheaper on gas......
 
SoKlueles said:
well if it did that much to ur car and it was just spark plugs it still coudl be a broke one right? or a cable
my dad said he remembers having the plugs changed one time.....maybe thats all it is....i pray it is


They only had to replace the spark plug wires and not the distributor.

Could be a host of problems to be perfectly honest. A good trusted mechanic can diagnose the problem and not run your bill up intentionally.
 
Razorguns said:
ie: my 91 honda accord cost $3200 2 years ago. still pluggin' away happily today. :)

My '91 CRX is coming up on 175,000 miles.
 
$1200 is probably more than the present value of the vehicle.

Here's a solution -- it runs on the highway okay in Overdrive, but when you pull off the highway it craps out? Well, then shift out of Overdrive when you get off the highway. And don't use OD in town.
 
Im taking it to my uncle tomorrow and having him check it out, omg im sooo not wanting to spend my income tax on that van.....grrrrrrrrrrrrr
i hope its something simple like it needs fluid of some sorts
 
ok took it to my uncle who is not a mechanic, he just paints cars and stuff but he thinks it could be the universal joint .....not cheap but cheaper than a new tranny but were gonna take it to a mechanic in a little bit
dang i hope thats what it is
i dont want to become a prostitute to pay to get my car fixed

that could take a while
 
jestros said:
I have no idea what the U-joint would have to do with shifting.
he said there was some slack in shifting gears or something...dang i dont know........what exaclty is a univeral joint?
 
hamstershaver said:
go to a damn mechanic before i red your ass


:lmao:

It would make sense that the universal joint would need replacing. I didn't think about that when she was describing it.

It's a lot cheaper than a new transmission though but still kind of expensive.:(
 
SoKlueles said:
yeah, i dont know what to do, i dont want nor can i really afford a car payment..and ive had this thing for less than a year...well its a 91 astrovan and my mom and dad have owned it since 90. so basically its a one owner vehicle and its just got 140000 miles on it

pretty typical vehicle for transmission problems. Sorry your having problems with it. Your average replacement will cost $2000.00, if it's not repairable and chance are good it will just have to be changed out. It would damn near be worth it buying another vehicle if your gonna have to get a loan anyhow, however your in a bad situation because you'll just be buying another used vehicle and could be in the same boat in 6 months. I wish I had better news for you.
 
aren't those fornt wheel drive?

in which case there is no U-joint

CV joint perhaps?

It sounds like you are getting a lot of shitty advice, both from family members and people on this board.

You need to take it to someone who a) know a lot about cars, maybe even Fords in particular and b) that you trust. So far it sounds like no one you have asked has met both of those criteria.

take it to a Ford dealership, but only for an estimate. They will charge you out the ass but they <should> be honest with you.
 
Lumberg said:
aren't those fornt wheel drive?

in which case there is no U-joint

CV joint perhaps?

It sounds like you are getting a lot of shitty advice, both from family members and people on this board.

You need to take it to someone who a) know a lot about cars, maybe even Fords in particular and b) that you trust. So far it sounds like no one you have asked has met both of those criteria.

take it to a Ford dealership, but only for an estimate. They will charge you out the ass but they <should> be honest with you.
No, its rear wheel drive strangely enough
Im taking it to a mechanic in a bit and i hope he has good news for me
 
yeah then again it may not even be the transmission, I just seen minivan and overdrive and went straight there as my buddy has a transmission shop and works on them all the time. Just skip my previous post cuase it might give u a unneeded heart condition.
 
rsnoble-im-back said:
yeah then again it may not even be the transmission, I just seen minivan and overdrive and went straight there as my buddy has a transmission shop and works on them all the time. Just skip my previous post cuase it might give u a unneeded heart condition.
yeah ur previous post almost made me put u on ignore :worried:
Well, i guess if it is someting major, ill deal with it....i really cant afford a car payment right now
actually it is in excellent shape my mom took care of the interior and stuff and my dad kept it maintenanced...and i paid 25 dollars and a 35 inch tv for it:) so i guess i cant complain at all


just, i wish this had happened when they owned it and not me
 
IMO looseness on a U-joint would not be noticed exclusively on deceleration, but stranger things have happened.
 
hamstershaver said:
no she was like that way before i met her
ummmmmmmm my looseness has NOTHING to do with my vehicle dang
ok the guy said i need a FULL tune up from plugs to wires to a distributer cap and all that stuff that goes on it
because he said there was fire(thats a mechanic term i guess?) going thru the motor or something
i dont understand it nor did i understand him thats why i took my uncle
now all i have to do is get it in and done and im good to go.....i hope:)
Oh btw he is fairly certian its not the OD or the other thing i said. yay 200 bucks (I guess) is alot better compared to 2000
 
jestros said:
Sounds great, if you don't think he's just doing things and hoping it fixes the problem.
hes a reputable guy so i think he knows what hes doing. I took my uncle with me and he drove it around with him and they both agree. So as soon as i can, in the shop she goes:)
 
SoKlueles said:
ummmmmmmm my looseness has NOTHING to do with my vehicle dang
ok the guy said i need a FULL tune up from plugs to wires to a distributer cap and all that stuff that goes on it
because he said there was fire(thats a mechanic term i guess?) going thru the motor or something
i dont understand it nor did i understand him thats why i took my uncle
now all i have to do is get it in and done and im good to go.....i hope:)
Oh btw he is fairly certian its not the OD or the other thing i said. yay 200 bucks (I guess) is alot better compared to 2000


Sounds good. Hope that fixes it.
 
SoKlueles said:
ummmmmmmm my looseness has NOTHING to do with my vehicle dang
ok the guy said i need a FULL tune up from plugs to wires to a distributer cap and all that stuff that goes on it
because he said there was fire(thats a mechanic term i guess?) going thru the motor or something
i dont understand it nor did i understand him thats why i took my uncle
now all i have to do is get it in and done and im good to go.....i hope:)
Oh btw he is fairly certian its not the OD or the other thing i said. yay 200 bucks (I guess) is alot better compared to 2000

yeah "there's fire going through your motor. give me $200 and I'll fix it."

good luck SoKlu from the sound of it you'll need it.
 
Lumberg said:
yeah "there's fire going through your motor. give me $200 and I'll fix it."

good luck SoKlu from the sound of it you'll need it.
dude stop trying to sell me a car :worried:
 
SoKlueles said:
dude stop trying to sell me a car :worried:
I ain't selling shit. If you lived near me I would look at your car for free, tell you exactly what to tell the mechanic, decipher what he was telling you, and even talk to the mechanic on the phone for you.

But I can't so you have to trust that whatever you're doing is right.
 
Lumberg said:
You need to take it to someone who a) know a lot about cars, maybe even Fords in particular and b) that you trust. So far it sounds like no one you have asked has met both of those criteria.

take it to a Ford dealership, but only for an estimate. They will charge you out the ass but they <should> be honest with you.

Uh, it's a Chevrolet Astro van.
 
Lumberg said:
I ain't selling shit. If you lived near me I would look at your car for free, tell you exactly what to tell the mechanic, decipher what he was telling you, and even talk to the mechanic on the phone for you.

But I can't so you have to trust that whatever you're doing is right.
that is sweet that u would
i didnt see this till now
I hope im doing right
 
Lumberg said:
oops

I think I read Aerostar. Thus the confusion on the FWD too.

take it to a chevy dealer.

The Aerostar was RWD too. The Windstar, which replaced it, was Ford's first FWD minivan, it was based on a Taurus platform.
 
Mr. dB said:
The Aerostar was RWD too. The Windstar, which replaced it, was Ford's first FWD minivan, it was based on a Taurus platform.
Well obviously I don't know what I am talking about. Glad to know someone does!
 
while you'er there:

get timing belt, tensioner, alternator, thermostat and water pump replaced.

check/replaces all hoses.

tune-up (which you're doing).

transmission fluid service

check for leaks

replace battery if it's more than 3 years old

If you want the car to last a little while, and give you peace of mind and not worry about it crappin' out again while driving -- get it all taken care of now. And of course get it done at a REPUTABLE place that KNOWS your car. People hate this advice, but i still recommend major service at the dealer, or a custom shop that specficially works on your type of car.
 
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