week 4 WTF is sapping strength ?

[burnthiscorpse]

So today was the first pin of week 4. Prop/Enath/EQ. Gaining a reasonable amount of size. Feel really good. Little tired though. strength going up steadily. Yesterday was shoulders/bis/tris, and today was legs. Noticed my strength wasnt were it quite was last week for bis especially. And today with legs I couldnt get 4 reps on shit I was ddoing 8-10 on last week.
The only changes I have made within the last week are:
1) Eating way more red meat. protien coming from 80-85% beef 15-20% fresh salmon. Upped my protien from 325-350g to 400-500g daily.
2) changed from going to bed at 3-4am and getting up at 1pm to bed at midnight and up at 7:45am. Not for any special reason just tired of sleeping all day. I am getting maybe 1 hour less a night. still getting 7.5-8 hrs. as opposed to 9-10.
The only thing I can come up with is the hour or so less sleep. Would that be the cause?

 

[bigtravis]

So today was the first pin of week 4. Prop/Enath/EQ. Gaining a reasonable amount of size. Feel really good. Little tired though. strength going up steadily. Yesterday was shoulders/bis/tris, and today was legs. Noticed my strength wasnt were it quite was last week for bis especially. And today with legs I couldnt get 4 reps on shit I was ddoing 8-10 on last week.
The only changes I have made within the last week are:
1) Eating way more red meat. protien coming from 80-85% beef 15-20% fresh salmon. Upped my protien from 325-350g to 400-500g daily.
2) changed from going to bed at 3-4am and getting up at 1pm to bed at midnight and up at 7:45am. Not for any special reason just tired of sleeping all day. I am getting maybe 1 hour less a night. still getting 7.5-8 hrs. as opposed to 9-10.
The only thing I can come up with is the hour or so less sleep. Would that be the cause?

bro. what time do you train during the day? if you have time for a 30-1 hr nap after your post workout meal. try that. i know most dont have the time.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

it varies. during the week since my schedule shift its been before noon. I'm not working right now so I do try to get every wink I can get in. I usually cant get one right afer w/o but I do get one when I can.

 

[SwampDonkey]

That much protein would put quite a strain on your liver. Keep in mind that amino acids gleaned from the protein that are not used by body tissues, are converted to sugars via the gluconeogenisis pathway in the liver. Too much stress on this organ can sap strength.

 

[Sub-Zero]

same shit sort of happening with me.

then i looked at what i was doing and realized my workload was fucking retarded, and i was already overtrained before i started.

if you are doing more lift wise than normal, take a lighter week, or cut your volume in half for a week sorta like a deload.

remember, just because you are on magical drugs, doesnt mean u still need some time for ur body to recover (especially if you want to make large strength increases)

also, IMO, when bulking/increasing strength, increasing carbs is more important than increeasing protein....

 

[mattu3743]

you wont feel the eq for a atleast a few more weeks bro and the test e should start kicking in anytime now. What stregnth you had was from probably the test p and prob your mental state of being on juice

 

[sensational]

same shit sort of happening with me.

then i looked at what i was doing and realized my workload was fucking retarded, and i was already overtrained before i started.

if you are doing more lift wise than normal, take a lighter week, or cut your volume in half for a week sorta like a deload.

remember, just because you are on magical drugs, doesnt mean u still need some time for ur body to recover (especially if you want to make large strength increases)

also, IMO, when bulking/increasing strength, increasing carbs is more important than increeasing protein....

This is a good answer right here.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

as far as the strength increases and going up with weights....trust me, I am very sane and sensible as to not injure myself or re aggravate my tri insertion at the elbow on my right arm. Believe me brothers, for my size alot of guys look at me fucked up in the gym cause they are straining their asses off with weights that are way too heavy for them and I am using a much more moderate weight. I am a firm believer in quality of movement and concentration of muscle contraction.
As for diet, I was doing about 2500-2750cal daily and 300-325g protien. Now that my body is a little more used to the dieting again I upped it to 3000-4000 cal and 400-500g protien. Keep in mind that I am 6'0 250 also so I'm just trying to strive for that 2g protien per pound of body weight. But keeping it realistic at all times and making sure I get at least 1.5g per pound.
I also dont train a body part more than once a week. Usually its 4 on 2 off. being that theres some soreness sometimes from slight weight increases week to week, sometimes I need 3 days off. Basically I just listen to my body. If it tells me that today is a monster day and I could probably increase my major lift today up to 25 lbs, then I usually take it up 5 lbs and just do a few extra reps with a slightly increased weight instead of hammering on myself.